SWINfan Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Lee beat Lamont? When and the score ? Can't find any matches on Track. He lost to Luke Pletcher 6-4 at FloNationals in April 2012, after beating Nick Piccinnini. That was going at the end of is 7th grade year. One thing I found interesting is he initially lost to Jan Rosenberg in that tournament. Nick went on to 8th grade that fall. Rosenberg wrestled varsity matches for Rutgers in Nov. 2012. I went all the way back to 2007. I saw that both Paul Konrath and Sage Coy beat him in the 55 lb Midget at ISWA Greco State. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith58 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Don't confuse possibility with probability. Isaiah Martinez was number one and undefeated too but guess what he got pinned this past week anything can happen. Major Ursula 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runner-up Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I understand that some people are trolling. I guess you have the right to do that, if you please. But please be mindful that we are talking about a couple of high school kids here. Please do not bash either wrestler's courage or mental toughness. Both wrestlers' have resumes that are shaping up in fashion for them to mentioned as some of the best wrestlers in Indiana history. Let's discuss their potential match up with the respect it deserves. If this match up takes place and it isn't under the lights, it will be one of the biggest shams in IHSAA Wreslting history. I am all for a making a match like this the main event. If we can figure out a way to do so, I am all about a vote or petition. Maybe we could do something where fans voted the order of the weight classes in the championship match? It'd also be nice for the big guys to not have to go last and have half of the fans in Banker's Life already in their cars headed home. Best of luck to Nick Lee, Chad Red, and everyone else at 132, especially all the seniors. I hope you all have a great state tournament run. Stay healthy, have fun, and leave it all out on the mat. guillotine, twooooooo, bellrs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1gold Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 My understanding that when they practices Lee schooled him .. ?? Any takers ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonster Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Well put Runner-Up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingFan111 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 My understanding that when they practices Lee schooled him .. ?? Any takers ??? Heard the same from a reliable source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling4EVER Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) My understanding that when they practices Lee schooled him .. ?? Any takers ???Practice??? We talking about practice??? Edited January 28, 2016 by Wrestling4EVER Westforkwhite, Devils27, gogoplata89 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacknight26 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I don't post very often on this board. To be honest I don't post at all but I follow it religiously just like I follow High School wrestling in Indiana. It amazes me how quickly people want to overlook the accomplishments of Red. He has nothing to prove to anyone and has beaten everyone that has stepped on the mat to face in High School and on the national stage (minus a few hiccups). I take nothing away from Lee (who is an outstanding wrestler on the High School stage and nationally in his own right) but Red is ranked the number 1 wrestler in his weight class not only in the state but the nation for a reason. I heard the same thing a few years ago when Micic and Lee were in the same weight class, "Micic is going to get beat by Lee" Yet it didn't happen! Now a few are underestimating another good wrestler in a similar scenario in Chad Red. Let this unfold on the mat I promise you the best wrestler will come out on top that day. Both are outstanding wrestlers and deserve the high expectations that are bestowed upon them. If this match does take place I look forward to it. But neither wrestler has anything to prove to any of us. base, mockdad79, NPSmith and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I don't think anyone is downplaying Red. These posts are about 50/50 for each wrestler. Some are saying red wins and some say Lee wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I don't post very often on this board. To be honest I don't post at all but I follow it religiously just like I follow High School wrestling in Indiana. It amazes me how quickly people want to overlook the accomplishments of Red. He has nothing to prove to anyone and has beaten everyone that has stepped on the mat to face in High School and on the national stage (minus a few hiccups). I take nothing away from Lee (who is an outstanding wrestler on the High School stage and nationally in his own right) but Red is ranked the number 1 wrestler in his weight class not only in the state but the nation for a reason. I heard the same thing a few years ago when Micic and Lee were in the same weight class, "Micic is going to get beat by Lee" Yet it didn't happen! Now a few are underestimating another good wrestler in a similar scenario in Chad Red. Let this unfold on the mat I promise you the best wrestler will come out on top that day. Both are outstanding wrestlers and deserve the high expectations that are bestowed upon them. If this match does take place I look forward to it. But neither wrestler has anything to prove to any of us. If you read this whole thread and others like it, you will see that many of us have been quick to point out that only the top couple guys in the nation have been able to stay close to CJ and that him losing--even to Lee--would be a very significant upset. I would expect a hard-fought 5-2 or 4-1 type of victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Spires Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I heard the same thing a few years ago when Micic and Lee were in the same weight class, "Micic is going to get beat by Lee" Yet it didn't happen! Now a few are underestimating another good wrestler in a similar scenario in Chad Red. Let this unfold on the mat I promise you the best wrestler will come out on top that day.That's a bit of a different comparison. In scenario 1, Lee is a freshman going up against #1 Micic. In this scenario, Lee is a junior and has since dominated at Fargo and dominated his way to a state championship. I can only assume he has improved quite a bit since his freshman year and Red isn't considerably better than Micic was his senior year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfangms Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I'm not trying to hijack the thread, but senior Micic verus senior Red would be 2 of the best technicians to ever wrestle. That would be like watching a 125 pound college match, lots of scrambles and great defense. I'm sure that's a match we'll get to enjoy in the next couple of years, assuming they both stay in the 125/133 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pupp44 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Since we're talking about Red and Micic now, how about some opinions on "WHAT IF". Like what if freshman Red wrestled senior Micic? If they were the same weight of course. Edited January 28, 2016 by pupp44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIME Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I'm not trying to hijack the thread, but senior Micic verus senior Red would be 2 of the best technicians to ever wrestle. That would be like watching a 125 pound college match, lots of scrambles and great defense. I'm sure that's a match we'll get to enjoy in the next couple of years, assuming they both stay in the 125/133 range. I'm not trying to hijack the thread, but senior Micic verus senior Red would be 2 of the best technicians to ever wrestle. That would be like watching a 125 pound college match, lots of scrambles and great defense. I'm sure that's a match we'll get to enjoy in the next couple of years, assuming they both stay in the 125/133 range. To many good hs kids don't finish up in college, hope it does not happen with these two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loscoz Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I am a MD fan and I think if Nick were able to wrestle all year then I would say I like Nicks chances at winning and I say that because I believe it would come down to who can ride the period out for second or third period. I think Red wins because of conditioning and I think Nick has a chance if he can keep it close. Jimtown 138 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 That's a bit of a different comparison. In scenario 1, Lee is a freshman going up against #1 Micic. In this scenario, Lee is a junior and has since dominated at Fargo and dominated his way to a state championship. I can only assume he has improved quite a bit since his freshman year and Red isn't considerably better than Micic was his senior year.Whats so different? Lee was a freshman phenom that everyone said he would beat Micic(2x state champ going for his 3rd). It wasn't even close, Micic showed why he was the champ. Now we got Lee and Red. The 3x defending and undefeated state champ is up against Lee. While Lee is not only a national champ, but international as well. Red has won every match he wrestled in the last couple years against some of the nations best. While I'm pulling for the hometown boy. As the great 16X world champ said " to be the man, you have to beat the man" Wooooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlenewbie Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I don't post very often on this board. To be honest I don't post at all but I follow it religiously just like I follow High School wrestling in Indiana. It amazes me how quickly people want to overlook the accomplishments of Red. He has nothing to prove to anyone and has beaten everyone that has stepped on the mat to face in High School and on the national stage (minus a few hiccups). I take nothing away from Lee (who is an outstanding wrestler on the High School stage and nationally in his own right) but Red is ranked the number 1 wrestler in his weight class not only in the state but the nation for a reason. I heard the same thing a few years ago when Micic and Lee were in the same weight class, "Micic is going to get beat by Lee" Yet it didn't happen! Now a few are underestimating another good wrestler in a similar scenario in Chad Red. Let this unfold on the mat I promise you the best wrestler will come out on top that day. Both are outstanding wrestlers and deserve the high expectations that are bestowed upon them. If this match does take place I look forward to it. But neither wrestler has anything to prove to any of us. I counted the predictions on this thread. Four have Lee winning and six have Red winning. So what exactly is your complaint? That it isn't 100% Red? People predict upsets all the time. And they happen with some frequency. That's not disrespect. It's experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyourbase Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 How crazy am I for saying that I kinda see one of these guys pinning the other in a tight match? Do you think the crowd might erupt? I just got goose bumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I hope that matches like Lee/red Parris/woods and Davison/Rypel become the norm in Indiana. ACMSBagubas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchas Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 If Lee is 100% health I would call this a 50/50 match. But if he is not. Red will win, No 132lb in the country will stay with Red if they are not 100%. quinnsDAD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnsDAD Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) jchas how are ya? and I agree if Lee wrestles all year total tossup, he hasn't, advantage Red Edited January 29, 2016 by quinnsDAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchas Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 jchas how are ya? and I agree if Lee wrestles all year total tossup, he hasn't, advantage Red I am doing well, All is quiet after wresting. I really can't wait for this match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaveitonthemat Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Unfortunately for Red, even if he wins this match he loses because everyone will say the only reason he won was because Lee was not healthy. Red I believe! Keep doing what you do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rootbeerfan Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Guys I think we all are putting the cart before the horse. They need to make it to state first. In wrestling...anything can happen. There are some other good wrestlers at 132. Great potential match-up at SS for Lee. 1prouddad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackshirtD Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) I think everyone gets this is a huge potential match-up..Historic some have said..I agree. I would like to see a rematch from Al Smith between Molloy and Black..That was shaping up to be a great finish then Black put his shoulders on the mat fending off molloy coming out the back door to try and take the lead late. Certainly Lee, and Red are the favorites but I don't think anyone is conceding just yet. Even after Molloy and Black there is some real quality that in another year the depth of the weight might be the topic. Much work to be done though before anyone even punches their ticket. Should be a lot of fun. Edited January 29, 2016 by BlackshirtD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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