Tparker Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I have enjoyed wrestling for years, but when are we going to get at least a 3 class system for state finals. We also need to have some sort of a wrestle back system. Other states have had these rules for years. The Iowa participants are within 100 people and they have a 4 class wrestling. I know Indiana doesn’t put as much effort into wrestling. The poor sportsmanship in boy basketball and football is getting worse. We have schools helping their, football and basketball athletes stay eligible with poor grades. Wrestlers have some of the highest grade point averages of any school sport. Also it’s about time the IHSAA supported girls wrestling. I understand that this has been all over the place, so as a wrap up. 1. Class wrestling so the smaller schools can get an opportunity to send wrestlers to state. 2. Wrestle backs so we can get a more accurate top 8 in each weight class. 3. Separate the top 4 ranked wrestlers. We have a chance where #1 and #2 seeds meet in the second round. 4. Girls wrestling being recognized as IHSAA level sport. Lane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 First post?! You hit class wrestling, wrestle backs, seeding and sanctioning girls wrestling. Quite a entrance! Ironbear, UncleJimmy, IndianaFan and 7 others 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 We have a few posts related to these topics in the first page or two of the board if you’d like to contributed to them. 1prouddad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana_Wrestling Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Tparker said: I have enjoyed wrestling for years, but when are we going to get at least a 3 class system for state finals. We also need to have some sort of a wrestle back system. Other states have had these rules for years. The Iowa participants are within 100 people and they have a 4 class wrestling. I know Indiana doesn’t put as much effort into wrestling. The poor sportsmanship in boy basketball and football is getting worse. We have schools helping their, football and basketball athletes stay eligible with poor grades. Wrestlers have some of the highest grade point averages of any school sport. Also it’s about time the IHSAA supported girls wrestling. I understand that this has been all over the place, so as a wrap up. 1. Class wrestling so the smaller schools can get an opportunity to send wrestlers to state. 2. Wrestle backs so we can get a more accurate top 8 in each weight class. 3. Separate the top 4 ranked wrestlers. We have a chance where #1 and #2 seeds meet in the second round. 4. Girls wrestling being recognized as IHSAA level sport. There should be only one state champ in a weight class, there has been many schools and wrestlers that are still able to compete at a high level from small schools, wrestlings a rare sport that relies on work ethic rather than numbers of bodies at school or athleticism. If you look at the kids doing successful in Indiana it’s not because they’re at a big school it’s because they work their tail off in the off-season as well as during season. Also labeling multiple kids state champs devalues that label as there would always be talk on who was the actual best wrestler in each weight class. If you have a champion mindset every person should be striving to be the best in the state not the best kid in schools population under 200 kids. JAlexander and Athenr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJimmy Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 @Galagoreburner account? Welcome to the board.. either that or Joe likin' all the traffic so why not start 10 threads! SMH.... To stay on topic. Hopefully never..maybe someday..hopefully someday...hopefully soon. Indiana_Wrestling and Galagore 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4U2NV Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 They should change the name of Semi-State to State and change State to Super-State. That way we will have 4 State Champs for each weight class and 1 Super-State Champ. Lol. Indiana_Wrestling, D Summar and graham 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana_Wrestling Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, 4U2NV said: They should change the name of Semi-State to State and change State to Super-State. That way we will have 4 State Champs for each weight class and 1 Super-State Champ. Lol. That’s not a bad idea we could have the superstate finalist wrestle in a ring of fire too for dramatic effect. UncleJimmy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Time Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 For maximum fan excitement and athlete danger, let's add an absolute division where you throw out the weight classes and make a bracket where all the champs fight each other. Or, go full WWE and have a Royal Rumble. Put 'em all in a cage and last man standing wins. Fans can throw things at them too. Like airplanes. Or bananas? UncleJimmy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galagore Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, UncleJimmy said: @Galagoreburner account? Welcome to the board.. either that or Joe likin' all the traffic so why not start 10 threads! SMH.... To stay on topic. Hopefully never..maybe someday..hopefully someday...hopefully soon. I swear on all 26,995 of my bananas that I did not create a new account just to post this thread. However, my first thought was literally, "Oh lord, @UncleJimmy is going to think I made a fake account..." Edited February 16, 2021 by Galagore left out a word Ironbear, UncleJimmy and horseofadifferentcolor 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4U2NV Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Matt Time said: For maximum fan excitement and athlete danger, let's add an absolute division where you throw out the weight classes and make a bracket where all the champs fight each other. Or, go full WWE and have a Royal Rumble. Put 'em all in a cage and last man standing wins. Fans can throw things at them too. Like airplanes. Or bananas? Let’s just go full Kumite or Thunderdome. D Summar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana_Wrestling Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Matt Time said: For maximum fan excitement and athlete danger, let's add an absolute division where you throw out the weight classes and make a bracket where all the champs fight each other. Or, go full WWE and have a Royal Rumble. Put 'em all in a cage and last man standing wins. Fans can throw things at them too. Like airplanes. Or bananas? I got money on the scrappy 106’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 33 minutes ago, 4U2NV said: They should change the name of Semi-State to State and change State to Super-State. That way we will have 4 State Champs for each weight class and 1 Super-State Champ. Lol. Good compromise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence Dogood Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, base said: First post?! You hit class wrestling, wrestle backs, seeding and sanctioning girls wrestling. Quite a entrance! All in one paragraph, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tparker Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 It won’t devalue a state champ. When you listen to the announcer at the ncaa they say he was a state champion, not he won a state championship at the small school level. Iowa and Indiana both have 6,000 male participants, and Iowa has class 1,2,3 as one class then they have by there self 4, 5, and 6 state champion. I watch Brownsburg almost have year round wrestling. Tri-west hasn’t won a dual in over 10 years. We continue to watch the larger programs winning. EMD, Brownsburg, Indianapolis Cathedral, P.M. Warren Central and other catholic teams. I lump EMD and other catholic schools in because they can recruit wrestlers. I’d like for Indiana to be know for having strong wrestling programs like in Pennsylvania. We have had class football go from 3a to 6a. Also boys basketball has been 4 classes for some time now. Do I think IHSAA will change for wrestling, no they won’t. I can watch Indiana high school basketball on tv for a normal game all the way to state. I can only watch the finals of wrestling. I could pay 12 dollars to see one mat with track wrestling, which just got taken over by FLO. Don’t worry this is only one person’s thoughts and it will fall on deaf ears. Galagore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galagore Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 ^^^^^^^ base 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUSKEEWRESTLER Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Indiana_Wrestling said: I got money on the scrappy 106’s If it was Jared Brooks from Warsaw about 5 years ago, I might take him against the field Indiana_Wrestling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosgrove Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 One single class. We dont need anything else. The other stuff sure go for it. tyquhp13, formercollegekid, D Summar and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 hours ago, 4U2NV said: They should change the name of Semi-State to State and change State to Super-State. That way we will have 4 State Champs for each weight class and 1 Super-State Champ. Lol. Boxing fan? Sounds like all the belts the WBC, WBA, etc. create. Of course they do it so they can charge sanctioning fees. IMrule 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformedPoster Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Tparker said: It won’t devalue a state champ. When you listen to the announcer at the ncaa they say he was a state champion, not he won a state championship at the small school level. Iowa and Indiana both have 6,000 male participants, and Iowa has class 1,2,3 as one class then they have by there self 4, 5, and 6 state champion. I watch Brownsburg almost have year round wrestling. Tri-west hasn’t won a dual in over 10 years. We continue to watch the larger programs winning. EMD, Brownsburg, Indianapolis Cathedral, P.M. Warren Central and other catholic teams. I lump EMD and other catholic schools in because they can recruit wrestlers. I’d like for Indiana to be know for having strong wrestling programs like in Pennsylvania. We have had class football go from 3a to 6a. Also boys basketball has been 4 classes for some time now. Do I think IHSAA will change for wrestling, no they won’t. I can watch Indiana high school basketball on tv for a normal game all the way to state. I can only watch the finals of wrestling. I could pay 12 dollars to see one mat with track wrestling, which just got taken over by FLO. Don’t worry this is only one person’s thoughts and it will fall on deaf ears. Haven't heard the recruiting angle in a while. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 hours ago, UncleJimmy said: @Galagoreburner account? Welcome to the board.. either that or Joe likin' all the traffic so why not start 10 threads! SMH.... To stay on topic. Hopefully never..maybe someday..hopefully someday...hopefully soon. Hey ... errrrrbody Just another reason why my *** Genius Idea *** to just pin a ‘Class Wrestling Forum’ so these Class Wrestling pop ups can go and say, argue, debate, compare stats, Joe with his spreadsheets he has data on . I won’t be visiting cause I love the system we are in now. THERE I SAID IT ! Bye .... errrrbody Silence Dogood, D Summar, Sutton047 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutton047 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, TeamGarcia said: Hey ... errrrrbody Just another reason why my *** Genius Idea *** to just pin a ‘Class Wrestling Forum’ so these Class Wrestling pop ups can go and say, argue, debate, compare stats, Joe with his spreadsheets he has data on . I won’t be visiting cause I love the system we are in now. THERE I SAID IT ! Bye .... errrrbody Just like Indiana ever having class wrestling... NEVER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogoplata89 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 People don't want class wrestling because they value pageantry over the health of smaller programs. "But muh spotlight" Coach Brobst, IU89 and Galagore 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianMdFan Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Tparker said: It won’t devalue a state champ. When you listen to the announcer at the ncaa they say he was a state champion, not he won a state championship at the small school level. Iowa and Indiana both have 6,000 male participants, and Iowa has class 1,2,3 as one class then they have by there self 4, 5, and 6 state champion. I watch Brownsburg almost have year round wrestling. Tri-west hasn’t won a dual in over 10 years. We continue to watch the larger programs winning. EMD, Brownsburg, Indianapolis Cathedral, P.M. Warren Central and other catholic teams. I lump EMD and other catholic schools in because they can recruit wrestlers. I’d like for Indiana to be know for having strong wrestling programs like in Pennsylvania. We have had class football go from 3a to 6a. Also boys basketball has been 4 classes for some time now. Do I think IHSAA will change for wrestling, no they won’t. I can watch Indiana high school basketball on tv for a normal game all the way to state. I can only watch the finals of wrestling. I could pay 12 dollars to see one mat with track wrestling, which just got taken over by FLO. Don’t worry this is only one person’s thoughts and it will fall on deaf ears. Md does not recruit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, TheRussianMdFan said: Md does not recruit TheRussianMdFan, adam miller, casualwrestlingfan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers99 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Side topic but, what the heck. For all of those in favor of a single class system, what's your take on fresh-soph state? I mean, they are in HS so why separate the underclassman from the upperclassmen? Isn't it essentially the same argument in favor of class systems? Ironbear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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