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With what BB pulled off this weekend Vs a top ranked team, how much have they separated themselves from EMD? 
 

I know it’s early and EMD can also make some noise. But to see what BB did is just a statement in my opinion. 
 

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How would this team fare Vs the 2004 EMD(not sure if it’s already been a topic) 

 

 

In conclusion: WOW! BB is stacked folks. Add the solid wrestlers that went from 1/2 of the #county to solidify 1 team, they’re dominant and I can’t wait for SS. 

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Davison, Michigan- ranked 8th in the country - isn’t a top ranked team. 🤔    I think you did mean to “take something away” from Brownsburg.  We are still riding back from representing Indian

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I’m pretty sure it wasn’t in my job description, but Snyder isn’t very good with the internet.  So I took it over.

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Seems it wasn't but several days ago that this poster was talkin about how EMD won this prestigious and tough tourney 3 years ago and implied bburg could only get 3rd two years runnin.  Some people se

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1 hour ago, 1prouddad said:

With what BB pulled off this weekend Vs a top ranked team, how much have they separated themselves from EMD? 
 

I know it’s early and EMD can also make some noise. But to see what BB did is just a statement in my opinion. 
 

2nd part:

How would this team fare Vs the 2004 EMD(not sure if it’s already been a topic) 

 

 

In conclusion: WOW! BB is stacked folks. Add the solid wrestlers that went from 1/2 of the #county to solidify 1 team, they’re dominant and I can’t wait for SS. 


Brownsburg is indeed stacked, but today's results don't tell us anything.  BB didn't wrestle a top ranked team, they wrestled a tournament with several good/excellent teams from Michigan.  The same tournament Mater Dei won in 2018.  Brownsburg has finished 3rd, 3rd and now 1st there.  That's not meant to take anything away from BB.  I said earlier in another thread I felt they were the best team in the Eville SS.  But MD hasn't wrestled their full lineup yet and is just coming off Football State.  So while we can surmise that BB is likely better, this weekend didn't really tell us anything more than what we already knew.  

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Davison, Michigan- ranked 8th in the country - isn’t a top ranked team. 🤔 

 

I think you did mean to “take something away” from Brownsburg.  We are still riding back from representing Indiana in Michigan.  We got a good chuckle out of it.  Nothing but respect for Mater Dei.  They have taken us out two years in a row at dual state.  Davison, however, is a pretty solid high school wrestling team.  
 

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Brownsburg is indeed stacked, but today's results don't tell us anything.  BB didn't wrestle a top ranked team, they wrestled a tournament with several good/excellent teams from Michigan.  The same tournament Mater Dei won in 2018.  Brownsburg has finished 3rd, 3rd and now 1st there.  That's not meant to take anything away from BB.  I said earlier in another thread I felt they were the best team in the Eville SS.  But MD hasn't wrestled their full lineup yet and is just coming off Football State.  So while we can surmise that BB is likely better, this weekend didn't really tell us anything more than what we already knew.  

Sorry man, this is a bad take. These were some of the best teams in Michigan, including a nationally top ranked team.

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106

Nat #19, IN #1 Jake Hockaday (Brownsburg)
D2 #1 Jamarcus Smith (Mumford)
D2 #5 Carter Cichocki (Lowell)
D1 #16 (112) Jacob Harris (Holt)
Grayson Ortiz (Alma)

113

D3 #1 Kade Kluce (Dundee)
IN #3 Preston Haines (Brownsburg)
D3 #5 Isaiah Mullins (Alma)
D1 #8 (119) Mariano Lopez (Holt)
D1 #11 (119) Marcello Luna (Woodhaven)
D1 #16 (103) Dom Perez (Davison)
James Wade (TC Central)
Tyler Sheeran (TCSF)

120

Nat #3, D3 #1 Braeden Davis (Dundee)
Nat #6, D1 #1 Caden Horwath (Davison)
Nat #10, D2 #1 Jackson Blum (Lowell)
IN #2 Logan Miller (Brownsburg)
D1 #2 (112) Ryan Mosher (Holt)
D1 #4 (112) Quaylon Newton (Brighton)
Mason Day (Brownsburg)

126

D1 #2 (119) Justin Gates (Davison)
D2 #3 Ashton Corson (Middleville)
IN #9 Braden Haines (Brownsburg)
D2 #2 (119) Owen Segorski (Lowell)
D3 #3 Gavyn Merchant (Kingsley)
D3 #4 Cameron Chinavare (Dundee)
D3 #5 Fabian Facundo (Alma)
Kyle Jelinek (Davison)
Brady Slocum (TC Central)

132

IN #2 Brady Ison (Brownsburg)
D1 #3 Brendan Maybee (Davison)
D1 #9 Colin Jewell (Brighton)
D2 #4 Kyron Zoet (Middleville)
D3 #5 (125) Buddy Leonard (Alma)
D3 #7 (135) Kole Katschor (Dundee)
D3 #7 (130) Gianni Tripp (Alma)
Isaac Grahn (Kingsley)
Dane Hafke (Holt)

138

IN #7 Gavin Garcia (Brownsburg)
D1 #1 Aiden Smith (Brighton)
D1 #3 (145) Ralph Thompson (Holt)
D1 #3 Cameron Freeman (Davison)
D2 #4 James Link (Lowell)
D2 #2 (130) Ramsy Mutschler (Lowell)
D2 #5 Zack Gibson (Middleville)
D1 #6 (130) Dutch Ballan (TC Central)
D3 #2 Trey Parker (Dundee)
D3 #3 Logan Sander (Dundee)
D2 #11 Andrew Middleton (Middleville)
D4 #7 Josiah Schaub (TCSF)
D3 #10 Justin Grahn (Kingsley)
Nick Johnson (Holt)
Luke Stefanko (Davison)

145

D1 #1 Nathan Jerore (Woodhaven)
D3 #1 Aiden Davis (Dundee)
D1 #3 (160) Max Callahan (Davison)
IN #9 Blaze Garcia (Brownsburg)
D1 #5 Travis Richardson (Brighton)
D2 #12 Nate Cleaver (Lowell)
Jared Boone (Lowell)
D1 #13 Antonio Nauss (Brighton)
D3 #11 Josiah Baltierra (Alma) 
Grant Bachman (Holt)
Jesus Montelongo (TC Central)

152

Nat #1, D3 #1 Casey Swiderski (Dundee)
D2 #4 Tacho Gonzales (Lowell)
IN #14 Griffin Ison (Brownsburg)
Justice Rector (TC Central)
Jaydon Ball (Davison)
Wyatt Hunt (Davison)

160

IN #6 Nick Cicciarelli (Brownsburg)
D4 #1 Gavin Wilmoth (TCSF)
D1 #5 Kyle White (Davison)
D3 #4 Cole O’Boyle (Alma)
D3 #8 Aidan Shier (Kingsley)
D3 #10 Jacob Fenbert (Dundee)
D1 #14 John Lalonde (TC Central)
D1 #14 (171) Drew Hutcheson (Brighton)
Nick Picardat (TCSF)
Case Huisman (Lowell)
Connor Collins (Dundee)
Kalem Pick (Holt)
Charlie Armstead (Davison)

170

Nat #1, D1 #1 Josh Barr (Davison)
IN #7 Caden Brewer (Brownsburg)
D3 #8 (160) Kyan Fessenden (Kingsley)
D3 #16 Kaden Patterson (Kingsley)
Satbir Singh (Brownsburg)
Carter Schmidt (TC Central)
Ty Hafke (Holt)

182

D1 #1 Remy Cotton (Davison)
D2 #1 Carson Crace (Lowell)
D3 #3 Sam Goethals (Kingsley)
D3 #6 Jacob Munger (Alma)
Fletcher Smith (Holt)
Tyler Jones (Brownsburg)

195

IN #6 Gunner Henry (Brownsburg)
D1 #6 Nathan Bremer (Holt)
D1 #8 Jacob Navarro (Woodhaven)
D1 #4 (285) Bryce Simmons (Davison)
D3 #6 (215) Alex Smith (Kingsley)
D1 #12 (171) Ethan Ramsey (TC Central)
D3 #16 (215) Adam Garcia (Alma)
Hunter Dunaway (Davison)

220

Nat #20, D1 #1 Jimmy Colley (Davison)
D2 #1 Carter Blough (Lowell)
Sam Lapadat (Brownsburg)
D1 #10 Remington Soper (TC Central)
D1 #15 Cole Newman (Holt)
Connor Crepeau (Holt)
Kory Bell (Alma)
Alexander Holmes (Davison)

285

Nat #14, IN #1 Leighton Jones (Brownsburg)
D1 #1 Joshua Terrill (Holt)
Caden Adams (Alma)
Zane Richardson (Davison)
Bryson Vandermuelen (Lowell)
Isaac Norton (Davison)

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I worry that EMD and Brownsburg will knock each other off just fighting to get out of semi-state. Meanwhile Crown Point should walk through their semi-state. 

 

Its going to be a fun year.... teams like cathedral are waiting in the wings and could get 10 -12 guys to state

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Brownsburg is indeed stacked, but today's results don't tell us anything.  BB didn't wrestle a top ranked team, they wrestled a tournament with several good/excellent teams from Michigan.  The same tournament Mater Dei won in 2018.  Brownsburg has finished 3rd, 3rd and now 1st there.  That's not meant to take anything away from BB.  I said earlier in another thread I felt they were the best team in the Eville SS.  But MD hasn't wrestled their full lineup yet and is just coming off Football State.  So while we can surmise that BB is likely better, this weekend didn't really tell us anything more than what we already knew.  

Seems it wasn't but several days ago that this poster was talkin about how EMD won this prestigious and tough tourney 3 years ago and implied bburg could only get 3rd two years runnin.  Some people seem to have very short memory, or selective memory when it suits their desired message

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Brownsburg is indeed stacked, but today's results don't tell us anything.  BB didn't wrestle a top ranked team, they wrestled a tournament with several good/excellent teams from Michigan.  The same tournament Mater Dei won in 2018.  Brownsburg has finished 3rd, 3rd and now 1st there.  That's not meant to take anything away from BB.  I said earlier in another thread I felt they were the best team in the Eville SS.  But MD hasn't wrestled their full lineup yet and is just coming off Football State.  So while we can surmise that BB is likely better, this weekend didn't really tell us anything more than what we already knew.  

Davison is LOADED, and  every weight class had countless future college wrestlers that will make noise at the next level..Ciccerelli winning and Baby Brewer, Lapadat, Blaze and many others wrestled out of their minds scoring bonus points and that's vs on paper what many ppl might've thought were favs and their championship pedigree lead them to a title over a top 10 nationally ranked powerhouse in that Davidson team and many other formidable schools..

 

it came across like you almost made light of the tourney cuz EMD won it, but you always have positive outlook so I know that wasn't your intent.. We all know this is going to be a crazy year and we all will have fun watching it unfold...btw I wanna see that purdy vs Sollars scrap!!! Have you seen it?!?!?

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On 12/11/2021 at 6:52 PM, 1prouddad said:

With what BB pulled off this weekend Vs a top ranked team, how much have they separated themselves from EMD? 
 

I know it’s early and EMD can also make some noise. But to see what BB did is just a statement in my opinion. 
 

2nd part:

How would this team fare Vs the 2004 EMD(not sure if it’s already been a topic) 

 

 

In conclusion: WOW! BB is stacked folks. Add the solid wrestlers that went from 1/2 of the #county to solidify 1 team, they’re dominant and I can’t wait for SS. 

That EMD 2003 team was disgusting, seen them first hand at team state Year before (dad told me he give me 200 if I could  take down Mauer , think I ended up owing ol Dad 2k and Blake another 2k after that clinic)  I'll wait to see how this year pans out but I'd like to line this one up and discuss the hypothetical outcome... We (most)are just a bunch of old head wrestling fanatics that find solace in watching the greatest sport on the planet, produce great leaders of tomorrow and make timeless memories...

 

I'm so glad we have tons of great coaches and wrestling community that contribute to making it possible for us to all converse and network due to such quality wrestling and sportsmanship (for the most part)..

I'll always be a NC Trojan but as a honorary "TheCounty" Enforcer and supporter, I'll always root for BBurg when it's not a conflict of interest and am more than pumped to watch their run...I know there's tons of In state threats to push them.

 

I've been working on California for over 3 months for wildfire Vegetation management, and haven't got to see any of my wrestlers or be there in the physical form and it's really had me in the dumps, so heading home tomorrow is literally the first time I've felt like a little kid excited before xmas in 30 years.. I'm just glad you crazy place help me keep What sanity I have left especially after this crazy trip....

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7 hours ago, Darrick Snyder said:

Davison, Michigan- ranked 8th in the country - isn’t a top ranked team. 🤔 

 

I think you did mean to “take something away” from Brownsburg.  We are still riding back from representing Indiana in Michigan.  We got a good chuckle out of it.  Nothing but respect for Mater Dei.  They have taken us out two years in a row at dual state.  Davison, however, is a pretty solid high school wrestling team.  
 

Snyder 

I think what he is trying to say is that BB didn’t wrestle a ranked team in a Dual format, at least that’s how I took it. Regardless of the format, dual or tournament scoring, what BB did was outstanding and great for Indiana. 

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YES YOU …. TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST ! 

come get some brock lesnar GIF by WWE 
National Rank Teams is Coming !
 

Get your popcorn ready Fans…. #17 Burg faces #8 Davison 2 more times, #13 Crown Point, they throw in some #15 St. Eds, sprinkle in some delicious #31 St. Paris Graham on top of that might as well throw in some #6 DDC before we get some of that #22 WildCats . 

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It is really fun to have @TeamGarcia and @Mattyb sitting in our bleacher section this season... #TheCounty hysteria is now centered in #LincolnTownship! Glad to have you guys in #Purplesburg...

 

The Dogs faced Davison in quite a few head to head matches and prevailed. It was entertaining to listen to the Davison, Dundee, Brighton and Lowell fans talk about "the Indiana team". 

 

Watching a healthy Gavin Garcia was awesome! That young man has worked hard on his craft. Freshman Gunnar Henry was a technique master against much older/stronger MI wrestlers. Brady Ison just dominates in a fashion only he can master. Freshman Jake Hockaday is full steam ahead on the #paintrain and sophomore Preston Haines wins in his usual flair... This team has the capability to do some pretty neat stuff and will be fun to watch this season. 

 

Just make sure that the seeding for team state will be such that this match can be the one at the end of the afternoon for sure!

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It’s awesome seeing Indiana teams in front of both St Edward and Graham

Ohhh..   don’t get it twisted . Indiana gots sum HAMMERS . They got sum HAMMERS on those squads . Great to see and looking forward to wrestle the Midwest Best during a HS season ! Just can’t wait !

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#17 Brownsburg vs. #22 EMD 

potential Lineups 

 

12/9/21 RANKINGS Updated and National Ranked . If I’m missing anyone please fill in the blank? 

 

106- #1 #16 Hockaday vs. #4 Schaefer

113- #3 P. Haines vs #5 Seng 

120- #2 Miller vs. #13 Egli 

126- #9 B. Haines vs. ______ 

132- #2 B. Ison vs. _______ 

138- #7 G. Garcia vs. _______ 

145- #9 B. Garcia vs. #8 Hayhurst 

152- #14 G. Ison vs. #3 May 

160- #6 Cicciarelli vs. _________ 

170- #7 Brewer vs. #1 Baumann 

182 - N/A 

195- #6 Henry vs. #1 #14 Sollars 

220- ________ vs. #2 Critchfield 

285- #1 #12 Jones vs. #13 Ralph  

 

 

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#17 Brownsburg vs. #22 EMD 

potential Lineups 

 

12/9/21 RANKINGS Updated and National Ranked . If I’m missing anyone please fill in the blank? 

 

106- #1 #16 Hockaday vs. #4 Schaefer

113- #3 P. Haines vs #5 Seng 

120- #2 Miller vs. #13 Egli 

126- #9 B. Haines vs. ______ 

132- #2 B. Ison vs. _______ 

138- #7 G. Garcia vs. _______ 

145- #9 B. Garcia vs. #8 Hayhurst 

152- #14 G. Ison vs. #3 May 

160- #6 Cicciarelli vs. _________ 

170- #7 Brewer vs. #1 Baumann 

182 - N/A 

195- #6 Henry vs. #1 #14 Sollars 

220- N/A 

285- #1 #12 Jones vs. #13 Ralph  

 

 

#2 critchfield @220 for emd

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13 hours ago, Darrick Snyder said:

Davison, Michigan- ranked 8th in the country - isn’t a top ranked team. 🤔 

 

I think you did mean to “take something away” from Brownsburg.  We are still riding back from representing Indiana in Michigan.  We got a good chuckle out of it.  Nothing but respect for Mater Dei.  They have taken us out two years in a row at dual state.  Davison, however, is a pretty solid high school wrestling team.  
 

Snyder 

 

You think wrong.  The original post stated they wrestled a top ranked team.  You wrestled in a tournament with many good/excellent teams, not in a dual. How does that contradict what I said?  I'm not sure how I stated that before this tournament I felt like BB was the team to beat in the Eville SS indicates me trying to take something away from you?

You won a great tournament.  Be happy.  But the fact that you won that, compared to Mater Dei wrestling today without much of their lineup doesn't tell us anything, which was the premise of this thread.  So nothing changed.  At least in my opinion.  BB is still the favorite, was before. 

Not sure how that gets feathers ruffled.  Sorry if I didn't participate in a rah rah thread in the manner you would have preferred.  BB had a great day, enjoy it!

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12 hours ago, Clan Campbell said:

Seems it wasn't but several days ago that this poster was talkin about how EMD won this prestigious and tough tourney 3 years ago and implied bburg could only get 3rd two years runnin.  Some people seem to have very short memory, or selective memory when it suits their desired message

 

I didn't imply anything. I stated fact.  I was only providing reference that IN teams have had success there before.  If BB had won before I would have notated that.  They won this time, which is awesome.  They had a great day.  But that doesn't tell me anything that I didn't already know, in that they have a helluva team.  As I mentioned in a thread weeks ago.  Sorry if I hurt feelings.  Never figured there would be so much sensitivity after a great day of wrestling.

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