blueandgold Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 I am prepared for controversy. Seeds Andrew Howe ‘08, Hanover Central Sean McMurray ‘10, Portage Brody Baumann ‘21, Evansville Mater Dei Paul Young ‘06, Bloomington South Drew Hughes ‘15, Lowell Cooper Samuels ‘07, Floyd Central Jacob Covaciu ‘16, Merrillville Case Hooper ‘93, Lawrence North J Conway ‘22, Floyd Central Jordan Slivka ‘19, Cathedral Nick South ‘18, Columbus East Bryce Hasseman ‘00, Franklin Chad Welch ‘11, Castle Nick Mayer ‘96, Evansville Mater Dei John Kopnisky ‘97, Carmel Chris Cooper ‘02, Whiteland Sam Wilderman ‘03, Evansville Mater Dei Brian Harvey ‘12, Cathedral Jermaine Brooks ‘91, Northrop Jason Carr ‘98, Wawasee Chris Snyder ‘95, Mishawaka Kevin Carr ‘99, Wawasee Briar Runyan ‘09, Martinsville Brad Laughlin ‘17, Yorktown Eli Dickens ‘20, Evansville Mater Dei Allen Weinzapfel ‘01, Evansville Mater Dei First Round Pairings #1 Andrew Howe (Hanover Central) receives a bye. #2 Sean McMurray (Portage) receives a bye. #3 Brody Baumann (EMD) receives a bye. #4 Paul Young (Bloomington South) receives a bye. #5 Drew Hughes (Lowell) receives a bye. #6 Cooper Samuels (Floyd Central) receives a bye. #7 Jacob Covaciu (Merrillville) vs. #26 Allen Weinzapfel (EMD) #8 Case Hooper (Lawrence North) vs. #25 Eli Dickens (EMD) #9 J Conway (Floyd Central) vs. #24 Brad Laughlin (Yorktown) #10 Jordan Slivka (Cathedral) vs. #23 Briar Runyan (Martinsville) #11 Nick South (Columbus East) vs. #22 Kevin Carr (Wawasee) #12 Bryce Hasseman (Franklin) vs. #21 Chris Snyder (Mishawaka) #13 Chad Welch (Castle) vs. #20 Jason Carr (Wawasee) #14 Nick Mayer (EMD) vs. #19 Jermaine Brooks (Northrop) #15 John Kopnisky (Carmel) vs. #18 Brian Harvey (Cathedral) #16 Chris Cooper (Whiteland) vs. #17 Sam Wilderman (EMD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JORVILLE Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, blueandgold said: I am prepared for controversy. Seeds Andrew Howe ‘08, Hanover Central Sean McMurray ‘10, Portage Brody Baumann ‘21, Evansville Mater Dei Paul Young ‘06, Bloomington South Drew Hughes ‘15, Lowell Cooper Samuels ‘07, Floyd Central Jacob Covaciu ‘16, Merrillville Case Hooper ‘93, Lawrence North J Conway ‘22, Floyd Central Jordan Slivka ‘19, Cathedral Nick South ‘18, Columbus East Bryce Hasseman ‘00, Franklin Chad Welch ‘11, Castle Nick Mayer ‘96, Evansville Mater Dei John Kopnisky ‘97, Carmel Chris Cooper ‘02, Whiteland Sam Wilderman ‘03, Evansville Mater Dei Brian Harvey ‘12, Cathedral Jermaine Brooks ‘91, Northrop Jason Carr ‘98, Wawasee Chris Snyder ‘95, Mishawaka Kevin Carr ‘99, Wawasee Briar Runyan ‘09, Martinsville Brad Laughlin ‘17, Yorktown Eli Dickens ‘20, Evansville Mater Dei Allen Weinzapfel ‘01, Evansville Mater Dei First Round Pairings #1 Andrew Howe (Hanover Central) receives a bye. #2 Sean McMurray (Portage) receives a bye. #3 Brody Baumann (EMD) receives a bye. #4 Paul Young (Bloomington South) receives a bye. #5 Drew Hughes (Lowell) receives a bye. #6 Cooper Samuels (Floyd Central) receives a bye. #7 Jacob Covaciu (Merrillville) vs. #26 Allen Weinzapfel (EMD) #8 Case Hooper (Lawrence North) vs. #25 Eli Dickens (EMD) #9 J Conway (Floyd Central) vs. #24 Brad Laughlin (Yorktown) #10 Jordan Slivka (Cathedral) vs. #23 Briar Runyan (Martinsville) #11 Nick South (Columbus East) vs. #22 Kevin Carr (Wawasee) #12 Bryce Hasseman (Franklin) vs. #21 Chris Snyder (Mishawaka) #13 Chad Welch (Castle) vs. #20 Jason Carr (Wawasee) #14 Nick Mayer (EMD) vs. #19 Jermaine Brooks (Northrop) #15 John Kopnisky (Carmel) vs. #18 Brian Harvey (Cathedral) #16 Chris Cooper (Whiteland) vs. #17 Sam Wilderman (EMD) Andrew Howe …..The End ontherise219, rdrodd1, blueandgold and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Professor Morgan Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Where’s JT Young? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, mikemorgan said: Where’s JT Young? His front headlock could “drop” most of the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted December 25, 2022 Author Share Posted December 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, mikemorgan said: Where’s JT Young? He was 140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookie78 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Andrew Howe, with both hands tied behind his back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdrodd1 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 My nephew caught Howe at freestyle state in 08. Got in on a single on one side of the mat and couldn't finish by the time they got to the other side. Back to the center and Howe took him down and gator rolled him across the fair grounds to the parking lot. In all, about 15 seconds of wrestling. But we always joked about how he almost took Andrew down. rookie78 and Gasman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, blueandgold said: I am prepared for controversy. Seeds Andrew Howe ‘08, Hanover Central Sean McMurray ‘10, Portage Brody Baumann ‘21, Evansville Mater Dei Paul Young ‘06, Bloomington South Drew Hughes ‘15, Lowell Cooper Samuels ‘07, Floyd Central Jacob Covaciu ‘16, Merrillville Case Hooper ‘93, Lawrence North J Conway ‘22, Floyd Central Jordan Slivka ‘19, Cathedral Nick South ‘18, Columbus East Bryce Hasseman ‘00, Franklin Chad Welch ‘11, Castle Nick Mayer ‘96, Evansville Mater Dei John Kopnisky ‘97, Carmel Chris Cooper ‘02, Whiteland Sam Wilderman ‘03, Evansville Mater Dei Brian Harvey ‘12, Cathedral Jermaine Brooks ‘91, Northrop Jason Carr ‘98, Wawasee Chris Snyder ‘95, Mishawaka Kevin Carr ‘99, Wawasee Briar Runyan ‘09, Martinsville Brad Laughlin ‘17, Yorktown Eli Dickens ‘20, Evansville Mater Dei Allen Weinzapfel ‘01, Evansville Mater Dei First Round Pairings #1 Andrew Howe (Hanover Central) receives a bye. #2 Sean McMurray (Portage) receives a bye. #3 Brody Baumann (EMD) receives a bye. #4 Paul Young (Bloomington South) receives a bye. #5 Drew Hughes (Lowell) receives a bye. #6 Cooper Samuels (Floyd Central) receives a bye. #7 Jacob Covaciu (Merrillville) vs. #26 Allen Weinzapfel (EMD) #8 Case Hooper (Lawrence North) vs. #25 Eli Dickens (EMD) #9 J Conway (Floyd Central) vs. #24 Brad Laughlin (Yorktown) #10 Jordan Slivka (Cathedral) vs. #23 Briar Runyan (Martinsville) #11 Nick South (Columbus East) vs. #22 Kevin Carr (Wawasee) #12 Bryce Hasseman (Franklin) vs. #21 Chris Snyder (Mishawaka) #13 Chad Welch (Castle) vs. #20 Jason Carr (Wawasee) #14 Nick Mayer (EMD) vs. #19 Jermaine Brooks (Northrop) #15 John Kopnisky (Carmel) vs. #18 Brian Harvey (Cathedral) #16 Chris Cooper (Whiteland) vs. #17 Sam Wilderman (EMD) This is such a tough bracket. Andrew Howe is the clear winner but to determine placement. I used their record at the state finals. I wanted to use which ones had the most falls/tech falls but don't have the time. State finals records 1st Andrew Howe 15-1 T-2nd Drew Hughes 14-2 T-2nd jordan Slvika 14-2 T-2nd Sean McMurray 14-2 5th Cooper Samuels 13-3 6th Jacob Covaciu 11-2 7th Brian Harvey 11-5 8th J Conway 10-3 9th Briar Runyon 10-2 Paul Young 8-0 Nick South 8-0 Brody Baumman 8-1 Chad Welch 7-3 Bryce Houseman 4-0 Chris Cooper 4-1 Edited December 26, 2022 by navy80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigtoe19 Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 After figuring , I believe Briar Runyan was 10-2. Going 3rd, 2nd & 1st. artie_wrestler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bigtoe19 said: After figuring , I believe Briar Runyan was 10-2. Going 3rd, 2nd & 1st. You are correct, I will add him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) Howe vs. Hughes in the finals Imaginary Match details : 1st period Howe with a knee tap dump in a front headlock . Howe rides Hughes until 45 second and Hughes escapes . 2-1 Howe (1 takedowns) (1 escape) Howe defers to Hughes, Hughes takes Top 2nd Period Hughes ride him out with potential dangerous 4x stops in the match . Still 2-1 Howe choice he chooses bottom, crowd is like what .. Howe winks at the crowd and says it will be fine . 3rd period Howe tries to escape but Hughes is to good on top and goes to work . 1:15 seconds to go . Potential dangerous 2x stop the match . 37 seconds to go . Hughes finally gets his 2 after working that shoulder runs it dry . 3-2 Hughes now . Howe in pain and the ref calls calls Blood time because Hughes is working that facial with wicked cross faces 15 seconds to go . Howe still down . Fresh start off the whistle, Howe catches Hughes leg coming, swims and he’s out 3-3 with 7 seconds . Time . (2 back points Hughes) (1 point escape Howe) Overtime no need for all the drama, quick takedown by Howe. Blast Double, Howe wins 5-3 OT ( Takedown Howe) This is the only official match . Don’t ask for video because the FBI has it. Edited December 26, 2022 by TeamGarcia Spell check blueandgold, ontherise219, Cricket21 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhayes Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Dave Palmer Delta, without question, wins this weight class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith58 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, rhayes said: Dave Palmer Delta, without question, wins this weight class. I don't know if he wins it, but he should be on it. He would take out a lot of those on it for sure. I suppose you could make an argument he should be in the 170 group. If you go back a bit further you could probably add his brother. Edited December 27, 2022 by gsmith58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted December 27, 2022 Author Share Posted December 27, 2022 1 hour ago, rhayes said: Dave Palmer Delta, without question, wins this weight class. He was 167, so he’ll be in the 170 Super Bracket gsmith58 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody LeCount Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, rhayes said: Dave Palmer Delta, without question, wins this weight class. Agreed.... Palmer's Stats 1979: 2nd at 155 (29-2 record) 1980: 1st at 167 (20-0 record) 1981: 1st at 167 (29-0 record) 1982: 1st at 177 (32-0 Record) Career Record: 110-2 David won Junior Freestyle Nationals (Fargo) in 1982.... I have the Stop Sign in my office... pretty cool to look at every day! In 1982 David was the Indiana Wrestling Federation Outstanding Wrestler of the Year In 1982 David was selected to the USA Wrestling High School Dream Team David was the first Indiana wrestler to ever make the world team and the first to win a gold medal in the 1979 world championships in San Diego, Calf. He went on to win a World Gold Medal in 1982 as well In 1982 David’s senior year, he was the number one college recruit in the country in his weight class. He wrestled for Oklahoma University on a full ride scholarship. He was inducted in the wrestlers Hall of Fame in the 1990’s. Edited December 27, 2022 by Cody LeCount Cricket21, FWwrestling1996 and GenHeavyHandz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody LeCount Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Cody LeCount said: Agreed.... Palmer's Stats 1979: 2nd at 155 (29-2 record) 1980: 1st at 167 (20-0 record) 1981: 1st at 167 (29-0 record) 1982: 1st at 177 (32-0 Record) Career Record: 110-2 David won Junior Freestyle Nationals (Fargo) in 1982.... I have the Stop Sign in my office... pretty cool to look at every day! In 1982 David was the Indiana Wrestling Federation Outstanding Wrestler of the Year In 1982 David was selected to the USA Wrestling High School Dream Team David was the first Indiana wrestler to ever make the world team and the first to win a gold medal in the 1979 world championships in San Diego, Calf. He went on to win a World Gold Medal in 1982 as well In 1982 David’s senior year, he was the number one college recruit in the country in his weight class. He wrestled for Oklahoma University on a full ride scholarship. He was inducted in the wrestlers Hall of Fame in the 1990’s. brickfor6, Rugger44, Unknown Caller and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdSkifan Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Palmer in action here from 1984 Oklahoma v. Oklahoma State dual meet. His match begins right at the 1 hour and 45 minute mark. Not the greatest video quality as compared to nowadays, but decent enough. busstogate and Y2CJ41 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhayes Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 By this time, his knee was completely destroyed. He tried to wrestle with it for a couple of years, this was the tail end of it. There is a whole story on how the knee was blown by his own teammates when he got there as a freshman because they were afraid he was going to take a major wrestler's spot (not going to name him). It is a very sad story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasman Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) On 12/25/2022 at 12:04 PM, rdrodd1 said: My nephew caught Howe at freestyle state in 08. Got in on a single on one side of the mat and couldn't finish by the time they got to the other side. Back to the center and Howe took him down and gator rolled him across the fair grounds to the parking lot. In all, about 15 seconds of wrestling. But we always joked about how he almost took Andrew down. I still remember this. I think I had Howe the next round… let’s just say the match was pretty quick. Edited December 30, 2022 by Gasman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No One Famous Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 On 12/27/2022 at 11:16 AM, rhayes said: Dave Palmer Delta, without question, wins this weight class. Palmer vs. Howe would be the final, no doubt. Both of these kids were on another level. MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Caller Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 On 12/27/2022 at 12:32 PM, Cody LeCount said: The man's a legend!!! MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformedPoster Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 On 12/24/2022 at 9:17 PM, blueandgold said: I am prepared for controversy. Seeds Andrew Howe ‘08, Hanover Central Sean McMurray ‘10, Portage Brody Baumann ‘21, Evansville Mater Dei Paul Young ‘06, Bloomington South Drew Hughes ‘15, Lowell Cooper Samuels ‘07, Floyd Central Jacob Covaciu ‘16, Merrillville Case Hooper ‘93, Lawrence North J Conway ‘22, Floyd Central Jordan Slivka ‘19, Cathedral Nick South ‘18, Columbus East Bryce Hasseman ‘00, Franklin Chad Welch ‘11, Castle Nick Mayer ‘96, Evansville Mater Dei John Kopnisky ‘97, Carmel Chris Cooper ‘02, Whiteland Sam Wilderman ‘03, Evansville Mater Dei Brian Harvey ‘12, Cathedral Jermaine Brooks ‘91, Northrop Jason Carr ‘98, Wawasee Chris Snyder ‘95, Mishawaka Kevin Carr ‘99, Wawasee Briar Runyan ‘09, Martinsville Brad Laughlin ‘17, Yorktown Eli Dickens ‘20, Evansville Mater Dei Allen Weinzapfel ‘01, Evansville Mater Dei First Round Pairings #1 Andrew Howe (Hanover Central) receives a bye. #2 Sean McMurray (Portage) receives a bye. #3 Brody Baumann (EMD) receives a bye. #4 Paul Young (Bloomington South) receives a bye. #5 Drew Hughes (Lowell) receives a bye. #6 Cooper Samuels (Floyd Central) receives a bye. #7 Jacob Covaciu (Merrillville) vs. #26 Allen Weinzapfel (EMD) #8 Case Hooper (Lawrence North) vs. #25 Eli Dickens (EMD) #9 J Conway (Floyd Central) vs. #24 Brad Laughlin (Yorktown) #10 Jordan Slivka (Cathedral) vs. #23 Briar Runyan (Martinsville) #11 Nick South (Columbus East) vs. #22 Kevin Carr (Wawasee) #12 Bryce Hasseman (Franklin) vs. #21 Chris Snyder (Mishawaka) #13 Chad Welch (Castle) vs. #20 Jason Carr (Wawasee) #14 Nick Mayer (EMD) vs. #19 Jermaine Brooks (Northrop) #15 John Kopnisky (Carmel) vs. #18 Brian Harvey (Cathedral) #16 Chris Cooper (Whiteland) vs. #17 Sam Wilderman (EMD) Round 1 Covaciu dec Weinzapfel Dickens dec Hooper Conway dec Laughlin Slivka dec Runyan Carr dec South Hasseman dec Snyder Carr dec Welch Brooks dec Mayer Kopnisky dec Harvey Wildeman dec Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legridn Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Weinzapflel Hooper Laughlin Runyan Carr Hasseman Carr Brooks Harvey Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Cruz Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Throw in 2023 Sam Goin into the 160 bracket conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavyHandz Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 12/27/2022 at 12:28 PM, Cody LeCount said: Agreed.... Palmer's Stats 1979: 2nd at 155 (29-2 record) 1980: 1st at 167 (20-0 record) 1981: 1st at 167 (29-0 record) 1982: 1st at 177 (32-0 Record) Career Record: 110-2 David won Junior Freestyle Nationals (Fargo) in 1982.... I have the Stop Sign in my office... pretty cool to look at every day! In 1982 David was the Indiana Wrestling Federation Outstanding Wrestler of the Year In 1982 David was selected to the USA Wrestling High School Dream Team David was the first Indiana wrestler to ever make the world team and the first to win a gold medal in the 1979 world championships in San Diego, Calf. He went on to win a World Gold Medal in 1982 as well In 1982 David’s senior year, he was the number one college recruit in the country in his weight class. He wrestled for Oklahoma University on a full ride scholarship. He was inducted in the wrestlers Hall of Fame in the 1990’s. No Arguments from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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