maligned 847 Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) Ha...haven't had a chance to respond to all the goofiness that's taken over this thread. I will just say this: the committee has been very thorough in their analysis and made mostly the right choices every year so far--to the extent that they've excluded teams coached by members of the committee or closely connected to members of the committee. Having a huge number of returning starters was absolutely the reason a less-known team like Chesterton, who were never before in the top 20 in the 30 years I've followed Indiana wrestling, were chosen "on faith" and proved they deserved their spot this season. All the committee has to do is look at how Warren fell from being a national power to being roughly the 15th best team in the state--even with a superstar coach--when they lost 10 starters. It won't be lost on them that the same thing could happen to PM. If the process goes how it's gone in the past, things will be examined very closely and PM will only get the spot if they deserve it. PM will be a strong candidate, but don't assume it's a done deal when there's a team like Harrison, for example, with so much coming back and a higher qualifying score. CP, CG, Castle, Chesterton all look like they'll be loaded next year too. As always, it will be an interesting process. Edited February 13, 2017 by maligned IndianaWrestlingGuy and regionrumbler 2 Link to post Share on other sites
RegionRoyalty 99 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Having a huge number of returning starters was absolutely the reason a less-known team like Chesterton, who were never before in the top 20 in the 30 years I've followed Indiana wrestler, were chosen "on faith" and proved they deserved their spot this season. Chesterton was the team state champions in 1989, within the last 30 years.. barely bgcoach and regionrumbler 2 Link to post Share on other sites
maligned 847 Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) Chesterton was the team state champions in 1989, within the last 30 years.. barely Ha...my first 5 years of following were mostly limited to the NLC and Goshen regional. It's my 26th year following statewide. Edited February 13, 2017 by maligned Link to post Share on other sites
regionrumbler 44 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Maligned: I appreciate you giving some insight on how the system works. My comments about Blue Bloods were partly in jest, but partly made with real respect to the traditionally strong big schools. I enjoy a good mix of the Blue and the New. It was awesome to watch Chesterton do very well at EC Saturday. Their comments in the paper Sunday were very refreshing as well. The Trojans seem to be a classy bunch. Your committee made a great decision on them and I'm sure you'll select another new, under the radar program, if deserving, this April. Keep up the good work. Link to post Share on other sites
maligned 847 Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Keep up the good work. I appreciate the kind words. Just to be clear though: I help organize and administer the selection process, but I'm not one of the voting coaches. Link to post Share on other sites
warsawwrestling 415 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Chesterton was the team state champions in 1989, within the last 30 years.. barely Giving Warsaw guys nightmares! Link to post Share on other sites
maligned 847 Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 CE were the only ones to submit completed injury/transfer info for 3A. Their few additional points have been added in now. Link to post Share on other sites
RegionRoyalty 99 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 If Merrillville were to decline like they have always done, it will be an exciting race for the final automatic berth this weekend between Harrison, Crown Point, and Chesterton. Link to post Share on other sites
TripleB 631 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 The Olympians adding Nick South to their lineup next year will be brutal EazyBLACK7 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RichardMowery 27 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 The Olympians adding Nick South to their lineup next year will be brutal the question is where does he fit in? Because he only weighs about 132 because that's what he wrestled at conference this year if I'm not mistaken? Link to post Share on other sites
ontherise219 1,219 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 the question is where does he fit in? Because he only weighs about 132 because that's what he wrestled at conference this year if I'm not mistaken? Cooper will start the CE lifting program and fill out these weights Link to post Share on other sites
MattM 1,048 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) the question is where does he fit in? Because he only weighs about 132 because that's what he wrestled at conference this year if I'm not mistaken?I'm pretty sure South was at 145 for JV Conference. Cooper will start the CE lifting program and fill out these weightsAnd you don't have to worry about South needing to lift more get to a certain weight class, that kids been on a solid lifting routine for quite some time. Edited February 14, 2017 by MattM Link to post Share on other sites
TeamGarcia 954 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 the question is where does he fit in? Because he only weighs about 132 because that's what he wrestled at conference this year if I'm not mistaken? Cooper will start the CE lifting program and fill out these weights If Mr. South has any of Dads genes he'll be going 152 next and look like a brick wall. JS, Nick dad quite possibly be Hulk little brother! eastdad18 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ontherise219 1,219 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I'm pretty sure South was at 145 for JV Conference. And you don't have to worry about South needing to lift get to weight class, that kids been on a solid lifting routine for quite some time. I'm not worried about it. I know those guys do a great job. eastdad18 1 Link to post Share on other sites
eastdad18 45 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) the question is where does he fit in? Because he only weighs about 132 because that's what he wrestled at conference this year if I'm not mistaken?Nick South wrestled 145 JV for Columbus East this year.. The weights will work themselves out .. East is excited that Nick will be on the Varisty squad for the next two years..Columbus East strength and Conditioning coach is excellent and gains will be made by all in the offseason .. Edited February 14, 2017 by eastdad18 Link to post Share on other sites
WadeDuPont 22 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 8 of the current top 12 have over 2200 students, only Columbus East falls well below the 2200 mark. The other three are private schools. Link to post Share on other sites
Y2CJ41 5,978 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 8 of the current top 12 have over 2200 students, only Columbus East falls well below the 2200 mark. The other three are private schools. Size doesn't matter, just work hard. Wrestling Scholar, WadeDuPont and EazyBLACK7 3 Link to post Share on other sites
WadeDuPont 22 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Size doesn't matter, just work hard. Or just want it more. Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestling Scholar 683 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 8 of the current top 12 have over 2200 students, only Columbus East falls well below the 2200 mark. The other three are private schools. Castle and Harrison are under 2200 students, so not entirely true. They just worked harder and wanted it more to get in the top 12. WadeDuPont 1 Link to post Share on other sites
WadeDuPont 22 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Castle and Harrison are under 2200 students, so not entirely true. They just worked harder and wanted it more to get in the top 12. I stand corrected....the number is 1900 not 2200. Link to post Share on other sites
IU89 113 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 8 of the current top 12 have over 2200 students, only Columbus East falls well below the 2200 mark. The other three are private schools. Mater Dei 525 Link to post Share on other sites
RegionRoyalty 99 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) Unfortunate that Carroll (Fort Wayne) is effectively going to be stealing a spot from a more deserving team for no other reason than geography. They wouldn't even be in consideration for a wild card spot if the top 10 automatically qualified, as they are more than 15 points from the 10th team on the list. Edited February 15, 2017 by RegionRoyalty 800lbs Gorilla Mama, littlevito and Bruins2013 3 Link to post Share on other sites
decbell1 273 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Size doesn't matter, just work hard. harder* 2takedown 1 Link to post Share on other sites
maligned 847 Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 3A Leaderboard is now updated with the significant injury addition of Baxter Annakin for Castle. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattyb 1,689 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 3A Leaderboard is now updated with the significant injury addition of Baxter Annakin for Castle. Huge bump for Castle! Seems as if they will make it. Bumps Roncalli to a vote in spot. Could the South Side of Indy fill the field as the two vote ins??? Link to post Share on other sites
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