SIACfan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, munges said: The exception not the rule argument is interesting. Any wrestler going from High School to D1 is the exception not the rule They are the exception among HS wrestlers, but I was talking the exception among successful D1 college wrestlers. The vast majority of D1 AA's are kids who went straight from HS into a D1 program. Wrestlers who begin there college careers at the D2 level or lower then transfer to D1 & are successful at that level are pretty rare. TeamGarcia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 On 2/18/2020 at 6:34 PM, TeamGarcia said: D1 competition is night & day compared to D2 & D3 . Especially in the Big Ten . There I said it ! Crucify me now There is an even bigger difference in the big ten programs. The bottom teams are not competitive with the top teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 8 hours ago, hook and half said: There is an even bigger difference in the big ten programs. The bottom teams are not competitive with the top teams. It’s like that in all sports in the Conference. Top teams feed on the bottom teams . It is what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdhomes Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Wheeler has Jose diaz jr class of 2018- Franklin & Marshall D1 Isaiah Mohmed class 2019 - Wisconsin whitewater D3 Trey buhler class 2018- university of Indianapolis D2 Clay Turpin class of 2016- Indiana tech university NAIA Giovanni Diaz class of 2020- Franklin and Marshall D1 Just remember wheeler has about 530 students enrolled and we only had a wrestling program for the last 7 years Bigyusm, matts, Coach McCormick and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriotfan Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) In the last 10 years at Jeffersonville High School, we've had two D1, four D2 (two will be D1), 9 NAIA, one D3, and 6 JUCO. Also the team manager for Ohio State is a Jeff Wrestling alum and we will probably have another D2 signing here in a few weeks 2009 – Caleb Browner – Campbellsville NAIA 2010 – Ryan Dewitt – Waldorf College NAIA 2011 – Alonzo Shepherd – Indiana University D1 (four year starter) 2012 – Brent Browner – Indiana Tech NAIA 2012 – Elijah Curtley – Indiana Tech NAIA 2013 – Jasi Coureur – West Virginia Tech University NAIA 2013 – Nick Stewart – Lindenwood Belleville University – Illinois NAIA 2014 – Gavan Jolley-Little – Indiana University D1 2014 – Tavion Lucas – Marian Military Institute JUCO 2015 – Jasi Couereur – St. Catherine NAIA 2016 – Darian Newbolt – Manchester JUCO 2017 – Josh McCorkle – Bellarmine University D2 (soon to be D1) 2017 – Vaughn Lloyd – Manchester D3 2017 – Josh Cooper – Ancilla JUCO 2017 – Shawn Williams – Ancilla JUCO 2017 – Carson Somerville – Ohio State University (team manager) 2018 – Luke Smith – Indiana Tech NAIA 2018 – Josh Craig – Bellarmine University D2 (soon to be D1) 2018 – Josiah Freeman – University of Indianapolis D2 2018 – Carlos Molina – Lassen Junior College JUCO 2018 – Jacob Laughlin – Lassen Junior College JUCO 2019 – Isaiah Fultcher – Tiffin College D2 2019 – Carlos Santos, Indiana Tech NAIA Edited February 20, 2020 by patriotfan matts and Coach McCormick 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFanMD Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 On 2/18/2020 at 12:06 PM, AlaskanMountie said: If you look at EMD's success at the high school level dating back to the 90's until now, it still does not translate well at the college level. They've had numerous state champs and placers that did not make any noise at the next level. Lee and Coughlin are the exception, not the rule. Perry and Cathedral are in the same boat. I'm not knocking these programs, just highlighting the difficulty of having success at the next level, especially D1. If you were in the MD wrestling room in the 80's and 90's you would understand most Wildcats had the physical talent to compete at the D1 level but not the intellectual talent to go to a D1 school. None of us became NASA scientist. base, indianmorg and Justin Ratliff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayruss Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Jack Jones said: I legit spit my drink. I wasn’t in the room but have a lot of buddies who were. I’d say the lack of D1’s stemmed from a lot of them being country boys who joined the family business. They had zero aspirations of college but would’ve excelled at wrestling if they chose that path. bgcoach and PhillyFanMD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 13 hours ago, PhillyFanMD said: If you were in the MD wrestling room in the 80's and 90's you would understand most Wildcats had the physical talent to compete at the D1 level but not the intellectual talent to go to a D1 school. None of us became NASA scientist. Yes!!! Perfect post from this dude! Going hard after his own teams fan base and alumni. Now he has insulted or pissed off 100 percent of the Indiana wrestling community. Dude is a savage. PhillyFanMD and Jcjcjc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 14 hours ago, PhillyFanMD said: If you were in the MD wrestling room in the 80's and 90's you would understand most Wildcats had the physical talent to compete at the D1 level but not the intellectual talent to go to a D1 school. None of us became NASA scientist. Wrestling Scholar and Justin Ratliff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWwrestling1996 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 On 2/19/2020 at 12:28 PM, Coach Nieman said: Purdue's current 165 is also only starting due to an injury to Emil Soehnlin, who was consistently ranked in the top 20 before his injury. Give me Hatch over Soehnlin Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWwrestling1996 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Id say Chesterton. Lucas and Andrew Davison, Eli Pokorney. Fargo and state champs that are wrestling D1. Jack Tolin did well. Now Evan Bates is a top ranked guy in the country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nieman Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, FWwrestling1996 said: Give me Hatch over Soehnlin Ok. If they ever wrestle and Hatch wins, I'll change my profile pic to the iu logo for a year. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFanMD Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) On 2/20/2020 at 11:19 PM, Jayruss said: I wasn’t in the room but have a lot of buddies who were. I’d say the lack of D1’s stemmed from a lot of them being country boys who joined the family business. They had zero aspirations of college but would’ve excelled at wrestling if they chose that path. Bingo! MD wrestlers usually don't choose the D2 or Juco pathe either. It's Big Ten or Bust Edited February 25, 2020 by PhillyFanMD Jayruss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) I wouldn't say they weren't college material, some went to college they just didn't wrestle there, they received a heck of an education at MD, getting a full ride to college on a wrestling scholarship isn't easy. Back then, MD wasn't on the national map for wrestling, they were still the big fish in the little pond. On that note Gabe Zercklebach, Chip Elderkin, Dave Nosko all went to college on wrestling scholarships. As far as D-I success Chip and Dave were no slouches, Chip went to IU I can't remember where Dave went and Gabe went to Purdue. While in college Gabe beat Lance Ellis and may have gone on to AA status but I'm not certain on that point. All of these are just the ones I remember from that era I've not done any research on this at all. Edited February 25, 2020 by Ahawkeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Good rule of thumb if you look at open tournament results over the long haul and not just isolated results: Non-D1 National Champs = D1 National qualifier level Non-D1 AA's = D1 starter level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Ahawkeye said: I wouldn't say they weren't college material, some went to college they just didn't wrestle there, they received a heck of an education at MD, getting a full ride to college on a wrestling scholarship isn't easy. Back then, MD wasn't on the national map for wrestling, they were still the big fish in the little pond. On that note Gabe Zercklebach, Chip Elderkin, Dave Nosko all went to college on wrestling scholarships. As far as D-I success Chip and Dave were no slouches, Chip went to IU I can't remember where Dave went and Gabe went to Purdue. While in college Gabe beat Lance Ellis and may have gone on to AA status but I'm not certain on that point. All of these are just the ones I remember from that era I've not done any research on this at all. If....just IIIIIFFFFF there was a website..... https://indianamat.com/index.php?/history/ncaa-all-americans/ Nick Lee x2 Matt Couglin Nick Mayer(DII) Those were the only NCAA All-Americans in Mater Dei history. bellrs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said: If....just IIIIIFFFFF there was a website..... https://indianamat.com/index.php?/history/ncaa-all-americans/ Nick Lee x2 Matt Couglin Nick Mayer(DII) Those were the only NCAA All-Americans in Mater Dei history. Agreed, after some time to look things up,Gabe finished 5th at the Big 10 championships, not a bad finish in my opinion though. None the less, those guys weren't all dragging their knuckles, there were D-I wrestlers in the room and plenty of future college students in there as well maybe not all college wrestler material but not the dumbest room in the state by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcjcjc Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 4:16 PM, FWwrestling1996 said: Id say Chesterton. Lucas and Andrew Davison, Eli Pokorney. Fargo and state champs that are wrestling D1. Jack Tolin did well. Now Evan Bates is a top ranked guy in the country Diego Lemley at IU as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Jcjcjc said: Diego Lemley at IU as well. Danny Tolin at IU as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcjcjc Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 10 hours ago, brickfor6 said: Danny Tolin at IU as well Too many brother from Chesterton at Big Ten schools to remember them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFanMD Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Hanover Central Howe and Micic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Just now, PhillyFanMD said: Hanover Central Howe and Micic Paul Petrov, George Petrov, Roger V. As well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Just now, brickfor6 said: Paul Petrov, George Petrov, Roger V. As well Oh and John Petrov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFanMD Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 5:16 PM, FWwrestling1996 said: Id say Chesterton. Lucas and Andrew Davison, Eli Pokorney. Fargo and state champs that are wrestling D1. Jack Tolin did well. Now Evan Bates is a top ranked guy in the country and Davison Sr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUBrewer Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/18/2020 at 6:37 PM, FunkItUP said: Cathedral has produced 6 D1 wrestlers in the last 5 years..... The swamp is sweet, must be something in the water there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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