Wrestling Scholar Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1st lets keep It that way. To the Chagrin of Galagore, this is the year without a major class wrestling debate. Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall a major discussion. Probably a good thing because it gives the dead horse a chance to recuperate. Anyway, Im saving all my "A" material for next years debate just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtothemat Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Here WrestleMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtothemat Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 We WrestleMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtothemat Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Go! WrestleMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Everyone knows we should have two classes, no more, no less. Swamp Dad and Galagore 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD92 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said: Everyone knows we should have two classes, no more, no less. that's debatable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piscis1956 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Y2CJ41 said: Everyone knows we should have two classes, no more, no less. What?!!! I thought there were no discussions this year because Y2 conceded the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestleMan Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 16 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said: Everyone knows we should have two classes, no more, no less. What is the cutoff? 1000 students? If we were to go to two classes, would anyone foresee wrestlers transferring to smaller schools to win an individual state title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 hours ago, WrestleMan said: What is the cutoff? 1000 students? If we were to go to two classes, would anyone foresee wrestlers transferring to smaller schools to win an individual state title? 690 would be the cut-off for splitting the schools in half based on enrollment. There are 154 schools with 690+ and 154 with less than 690 students. Transferring is out of control right now...so who knows what would happen. Look at this year's state champs 106- From Ohio 113- Wrestled as a freshman at Crown Point 120- Wrestled as a freshman at Perry Meridian 126- Originally from Lake Central 132- Wrestled 7th grade at Danville 160- Originally from Shenandoah 170- Wrestled as a freshman at Jennings County 285- Wrestled at Ben Davis as a freshman, played on the Ben Davis state champion football team in 2017 VisionQuest87, Thewrestler2012, Coach Moore and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestleMan Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, Y2CJ41 said: 690 would be the cut-off for splitting the schools in half based on enrollment. There are 154 schools with 690+ and 154 with less than 690 students. Transferring is out of control right now...so who knows what would happen. I agree the transferring is crazy. This could have an impact on where kids are transferring to though. Maybe kids wouldn't be as inclined to transfer to the larger schools and instead choose a smaller school for their shot. Maybe it wouldn't have an impact at all, but to me it's interesting to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFanMD Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I wanna transfer to a smaller school so I can be the Division 6 state champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Why 2 and not 3 like they use for team state? I personally feel the format they have for team evens things out pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galagore Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 17 hours ago, Wrestling Scholar said: 1st lets keep It that way. To the Chagrin of Galagore, this is the year without a major class wrestling debate. Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall a major discussion. Probably a good thing because it gives the dead horse a chance to recuperate. Anyway, Im saving all my "A" material for next years debate just in case. Consider me fully chagrined. base 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, bbulldog152 said: Why 2 and not 3 like they use for team state? I personally feel the format they have for team evens things out pretty good. Two classes mean about 155 teams per class. That still means you are in the top 10% of the state if you qualify for state. It also means there would not be as much dilution of talent. If two classes work you could always add a third like Illinois did, but I'd rather start with two then expand. Galagore and Bigyusm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galagore Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, bbulldog152 said: Why 2 and not 3 like they use for team state? I personally feel the format they have for team evens things out pretty good. Seems like 2 would be an easier thing to pitch to IHSAA. Big school champ and small school champ. My preferred thing for 3 classes would be big, small, private. Then the private schools can do whatever they want to attract talent and compete against each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFanMD Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 THe announcer will not have a voice if he had to do 2 or 3 state championship weekends in a row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 From past experience, I can tell you right now that this discussion will end with Joe saying "Let's just have one weight class then and one champion for the entire state". Dang it, I don't word it as smoothly as Joe... MD92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tskin Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said: 690 would be the cut-off for splitting the schools in half based on enrollment. There are 154 schools with 690+ and 154 with less than 690 students. Transferring is out of control right now...so who knows what would happen. Look at this year's state champs 106- From Ohio 113- Wrestled as a freshman at Crown Point 120- Wrestled as a freshman at Perry Meridian 126- Originally from Lake Central 160- Originally from Shenandoah 170- Wrestled as a freshman at Jennings County 285- Wrestled at Ben Davis as a freshman, played on the Ben Davis state champion football team in 2017 As I looked at the top Teams at State Finals I told my son , that if you don't by pure chance have random athletes who just happen to be top notche wrestlers move to your school for better education it is a uphill battle. EMD pretty much has the same kids year after year so in my opinion the one people try to blame for it really don't but I could be wrong. Edited February 19, 2019 by tskin Coach Coop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMILL Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said: 690 would be the cut-off for splitting the schools in half based on enrollment. There are 154 schools with 690+ and 154 with less than 690 students. Transferring is out of control right now...so who knows what would happen. Look at this year's state champs 106- From Ohio 113- Wrestled as a freshman at Crown Point 120- Wrestled as a freshman at Perry Meridian 126- Originally from Lake Central 160- Originally from Shenandoah 170- Wrestled as a freshman at Jennings County 285- Wrestled at Ben Davis as a freshman, played on the Ben Davis state champion football team in 2017 huh ???? but the public address guy, the jumbo-tron and the interweb all said it was his first year....... you have to be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, JMILL said: huh ???? but the public address guy, the jumbo-tron and the interweb all said it was his first year....... you have to be wrong @Y2CJ41 has info on ___,___,___ that’s a lot of comas, kids on this site . Nobody slides by unchecked . The Notorious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, TeamGarcia said: @Y2CJ41 has info on ___,___,___ that’s a lot of comas, kids on this site . Nobody slides by unchecked . The Notorious Yes Danville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said: Yes Danville. What ? Quick @UncleJimmy need a I’m so stunned meme. It’s so outta control I tell ya, not sure if 7 Classes like Georgia has can handle it . The Notorious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJimmy Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 No One Famous, TeamGarcia and Silvertone1696 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 If you split to two classes, is Mater Dei forced to wrestle with the smaller schools? Is there any other school that voluntarily wrestles out of their "class" for the Duals State Title? With less than 500 students, would MD kids be better off dominating "Class A" or competing with the big boys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, SWINfan said: If you split to two classes, is Mater Dei forced to wrestle with the smaller schools? Is there any other school that voluntarily wrestles out of their "class" for the Duals State Title? With less than 500 students, would MD kids be better off dominating "Class A" or competing with the big boys? IHSAA rules allow schools to move up a class if they choose to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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