R. Kendrick Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) Just goes to show how clueless the IHSAA is in regards to our sport. In our Sectional (17), they added Zionsville (2500 enrollment) to a Sectional where the next largest school has an enrollment of 650. I doubt any other Sectional has that big of a discrepancy.[/quote Actually in your sectional Zionsville has an enrollment of 1928 and the next biggest school is Crawfordsville at 705. Jeffersonville is listed at 2066 and the next biggest school is Corydon at 716. So there is a sectional with a bigger discrepancy Edited March 27, 2017 by R. Kendrick nkraus and Whoosier Daddy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 This committee was comprised of one coach from each regional. As a representative of the Bloomington South regional, my purpose was to make our regional more competitive at the semi-state level. It was our goal as a committee to achieve a closer balance at the regional level. This was not an easy task to do, as there were many things to consider. Nothing is perfect, but we did our best as a committee and there were reasons behind each change. I cannot speak on behalf of each regional because I was working directly with sectionals that could impact me. If the goal is to achieve a better balance, they failed miserably at the Evansville North Regional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskanMountie Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I apologize for the error. I found the IHSAA enrollment form and my numbers were indeed off. Regardless, you move the 36th biggest HS in the state over to a Sectional where the next biggest HS ranks 153rd. I just don't see the logic in doing that. It makes more sense to send HSE and Fishers over to the Elwood Sectional and leave ZV and WB in S18. That would at least strengthen the PH Regional, IMO. At the end of the day, it is what it is...I would just like to hear the rationale of why they chose to move the teams that they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 So, is Tecumseh in or out at Castle. They're listed as the teams there, then under changes they're one of the teams listed as out. I agree with Hook in regards to the balance between the 2 sites here in Evv. While Castle in the past had to battle for the win, now I don't see them being contested too much for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busstogate Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Sectional 1 first has to be able to field full teams before any ridiculous notion of "strength" is discussed. We had the second most sectional forfeits this year. Efforts have been made in the past to work more closely together across team lines, but a few teams want nothing to do with it for a few reasons. GWCoach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAJR Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 PH regional needs strength? Really, not sure what your point is but you may want to check your school sizes again. Sounds like you are for class wrestling. No problem here. Got to see Big O hand out medals for 3A and 2 schools win there first state championships in basketball. The sport that was ruined, course didn't hear or see anything but excitement and celebration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share Posted March 27, 2017 The south's realignment is very curious Floyd Central went from driving 16 miles to Jeffersonville to 72 to Southridge and 77 miles to Bloomington South for sectional and regional. New Albany went from driving 9 miles to Jeffersonville to 74 to Southridge and 88 to Bloomington South for sectional and regional. nkraus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCoffey Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 That's my biggest issue. We have been spoiled with only driving 10-15 minutes for sectional and regionals. Also, I don't see the reason for moving two of the stronger teams out of an already weaker sectionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianmorg Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 sectional 1 is pretty weak Sectional 1 was weak before they took us out and replaced us with west side, now extremely weaker. Merrillville will be sectional champs for the rest of time and will most likely hold the state record for consectutive team sectional champions. They should send 14 to regionals every year as well. nkraus, busstogate and MOWrestler 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samaj Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Castle losing the regional is a travesty. A huge part SW Indiana HS Wrestling tradition is going away. Very sad day. hook and half 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share Posted March 27, 2017 Enrollment informationSemi-StateNC 84094EV 83275ECC 71169FW 61702RegionalMooresville- 31259Perry Meridian- 24257Pendleton Heights- 24060Carroll- 22913North Mont- 22759Crown Point- 20746Bloom South- 20627Hobart- 18468Penn- 18458Goshen- 16483Ev North- 15753Jeffersonville- 15636Logansport- 13497Richmond- 13018Peru- 12096Jay County- 10210SectionalSectional- Teams- Enrollment25. Avon- 11- 1813718. Frankfort- 10- 1659720. Lawrence Central- 11- 1366426. Mooresville- 10- 1312212. New Haven- 10- 1223422. Warren Central- 11- 1213021. Southport- 11- 1212727. Bloomington North- 11- 1199805. Mishawaka- 8- 1141301. East Chicago Central- 10- 1079011. Carroll (Fort Wayne)- 10- 1067919. Elwood- 11- 1039604. LaPorte- 8- 1038203. Crown Point- 8- 1036409. Elkhart Memorial- 8- 1034829. Jennings County- 9- 956128. Southridge- 9- 862908. Lafayette Jefferson- 10- 831431. Castle- 10- 792632. Evansville Central- 9- 782724. Franklin County- 10- 781614. Oak Hill- 11- 769602. Griffith- 8- 767806. Plymouth- 9- 704517. Crawfordsville- 11- 616210. Westview- 9- 613530. Jeffersonville- 10- 607516. Delta- 10- 539923. Shenandoah- 10- 520207. Twin Lakes- 11- 518315. Jay County- 9- 481113. Peru- 10- 4400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swain358 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) Still baffles my mind that HSE and Fishers are 5-10 minutes from Pendleton Heights but they are sent all the way over to our regional (North Montgomery). I guess you can throw Westfield and Carmel in there as well. They are both about 30 minutes away from Pendleton but drive probably over an hour to get to North Montgomery. Edited March 27, 2017 by swain358 AlaskanMountie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Still baffles my mind that HSE and Fishers are 5-10 minutes from Pendleton Heights but they are sent all the way over to our regional (North Montgomery). I guess you can throw Westfield and Carmel in there as well. They are both about 30 minutes away from Pendleton but drive probably over an hour to get to North Montgomery. They all love the trip to God's Country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Not saying the moves are right or wrong but one thing to consider is that the host site for Sectional or Regional (Semi-state for that matter) is usually not located in the center of that district. So yes in some cases the drive time may be shorter to a different host site, but that's only due to the host site being located farther from that districts "central location," as well. It is also helpful to understand that in many areas there is only so many "main roads" that lead to the host site. Some of which are not direct point to point connections between your school and the host site. So yes, to get to the host site on those main roads it is conceivable that some schools may pass by another school district which attends a different host site on the way to their own site. While this does not solve all the issue, looking at it that way does help show why some schools travel time has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Enrollment information Semi-State NC 84094 EV 83275 ECC 71169 FW 61702 Regional Mooresville- 31259 Perry Meridian- 24257 Pendleton Heights- 24060 Carroll- 22913 North Mont- 22759 Crown Point- 20746 Bloom South- 20627 Hobart- 18468 Penn- 18458 Goshen- 16483 Ev North- 15753 Jeffersonville- 15636 Logansport- 13497 Richmond- 13018 Peru- 12096 Jay County- 10210 Sectional Sectional- Teams- Enrollment 25. Avon- 11- 18137 18. Frankfort- 10- 16597 20. Lawrence Central- 11- 13664 26. Mooresville- 10- 13122 12. New Haven- 10- 12234 22. Warren Central- 11- 12130 21. Southport- 11- 12127 27. Bloomington North- 11- 11998 05. Mishawaka- 8- 11413 01. East Chicago Central- 10- 10790 11. Carroll (Fort Wayne)- 10- 10679 19. Elwood- 11- 10396 04. LaPorte- 8- 10382 03. Crown Point- 8- 10364 09. Elkhart Memorial- 8- 10348 29. Jennings County- 9- 9561 28. Southridge- 9- 8629 08. Lafayette Jefferson- 10- 8314 31. Castle- 10- 7926 32. Evansville Central- 9- 7827 24. Franklin County- 10- 7816 14. Oak Hill- 11- 7696 02. Griffith- 8- 7678 06. Plymouth- 9- 7045 17. Crawfordsville- 11- 6162 10. Westview- 9- 6135 30. Jeffersonville- 10- 6075 16. Delta- 10- 5399 23. Shenandoah- 10- 5202 07. Twin Lakes- 11- 5183 15. Jay County- 9- 4811 13. Peru- 10- 4400 Why was this not taken into consideration? No reason for these numbers to have such a wide range. You have a sectional with 3 of the top 10 and 4 of the top 16 enrollments in the whole state. I do realize that people choose to live in populated areas, but geesh. You got some of the big schools killing each other and others just rolling little schools (no offense to them). Crazy. You clearly have teams traveling longer distances for some reason. Might as well have them travel for a good reason... to make these number more even. Edited March 28, 2017 by Mattyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Any word on Cowan? They will more than double their wrestlers next year... and they have a very strong middle school and youth program coming up... Curious to see if they will bring them back to Delta or move them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskanMountie Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Does anyone have a list of committee members (coaches) that were part of this realignment with the IHSAA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Still baffles my mind that HSE and Fishers are 5-10 minutes from Pendleton Heights but they are sent all the way over to our regional (North Montgomery). I guess you can throw Westfield and Carmel in there as well. They are both about 30 minutes away from Pendleton but drive probably over an hour to get to North Montgomery. Another solution to this could be to move the regional to Zionsville which hosts the other sectional and is more of a midpoint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhlst Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 The changes that were made to sectional 22 are disappointing. It was one of the toughest sectionals in the state with Roncalli, BG, WC, FC, GF and New Pal battling with MV, TC and Shelbyville throwing a few into the mix. Was definitely some great competition. Move will all but guarantee a WC kid will make it out in every weight class. 22. Warren Central/Shelbyville Eastern Hancock Franklin Central Greenfield-Central Indianapolis Howe Indianapolis Lutheran Indianapolis Marshall Indianapolis Scecina New Palestine Shelbyville Triton Central Warren Central Changes Beech Grove- Out Eastern Hancock- In Indianapolis Howe- In Indianapolis Scecina- In Roncalli- Out Mount Vernon(Fortville)- Out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julio Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I bet that 90% of the coaches involved in the re-alignment committee will not respond, they will just sit behind closed doors. I was not aware of any meeting or conversation that they had with our head coach to ask on suggestion or opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogoplata89 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 The changes that were made to sectional 22 are disappointing. It was one of the toughest sectionals in the state with Roncalli, BG, WC, FC, GF and New Pal battling with MV, TC and Shelbyville throwing a few into the mix. Was definitely some great competition. Move will all but guarantee a WC kid will make it out in every weight class. 22. Warren Central/Shelbyville Eastern Hancock Franklin Central Greenfield-Central Indianapolis Howe Indianapolis Lutheran Indianapolis Marshall Indianapolis Scecina New Palestine Shelbyville Triton Central Warren Central Changes Beech Grove- Out Eastern Hancock- In Indianapolis Howe- In Indianapolis Scecina- In Roncalli- Out Mount Vernon(Fortville)- Out I get what you are saying, but you have to admit that it makes the Regional more balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Why was this not taken into consideration? No reason for these numbers to have such a wide range. You have a sectional with 3 of the top 10 and 4 of the top 16 enrollments in the whole state. I do realize that people choose to live in populated areas, but geesh. You got some of the big schools killing each other and others just rolling little schools (no offense to them). Crazy. You clearly have teams traveling longer distances for some reason. Might as well have them travel for a good reason... to make these number more even. #thepopulation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) #thepopulationReally pal... your stalking is getting weird.#TrollStalker Edited March 29, 2017 by Mattyb hook and half 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Really pal... your stalking is getting weird. #Troll You could ask Joe for a restraining order . Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 He's jealous that #TheCounty won't adopt him like you did Uncle Jimmy. TeamGarcia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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