MattM Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) The pride of Lawrenceburg Indiana gets it done in the finals. Years of struggle and hard works pays off. Great job young man, you earned it. Edited March 19, 2023 by MattM blueandgold, SunDevils, ILUV2PIN and 16 others 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavyHandz Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, MattM said: The pride of Lawrenceburg Indiana gets it done in the finals. Years of struggle and hard works pays off. Great job young man, you earned it. Da GOAT Indiana Heavy. Sorry Big Wag. ILUV2PIN, Tcarter, SunDevils and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunDevils Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, GenHeavyHandz said: Da GOAT Indiana Heavy. Sorry Big Wag. When you take high school and college combined he just might be the GOAT of Indiana. Strong case for Mason, Howe, and Lee. I would imagine Mason, if healthy last year, might be a two time national champion. Very strong case for Parris now: High School: 206-1 (1, 1, 1, 3) College: 1st, 5th, 2nd (1 national title) World: 2019 junior world champ Crazy to think that Davison had a great showing placing 6 and the gap between 1/2 and 6 at heavy this year was a wide margin. Mason won I believe 10-1? But no doubt about it between Mason, Steveson (for those who claim him) Davison, and what I suspect will be next up Christian Carrol - the Hoosier State has been dominant at Heavy Weight recently. Edited March 19, 2023 by SunDevils GenHeavyHandz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavyHandz Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 8 hours ago, SunDevils said: When you take high school and college combined he just might be the GOAT of Indiana. Strong case for Mason, Howe, and Lee. I would imagine Mason, if healthy last year, might be a two time national champion. Very strong case for Parris now: High School: 206-1 (1, 1, 1, 3) College: 1st, 5th, 2nd (1 national title) World: 2019 junior world champ Crazy to think that Davison had a great showing placing 6 and the gap between 1/2 and 6 at heavy this year was a wide margin. Mason won I believe 10-1? But no doubt about it between Mason, Steveson (for those who claim him) Davison, and what I suspect will be next up Christian Carrol - the Hoosier State has been dominant at Heavy Weight recently. I'll go with Parris or Lee but Jesse isn't done yet. MUSKEEWRESTLER and Tcarter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matts Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Parris is for sure in the conversation mix now. I think he needs to make a senior team to contend for the Indiana GOAT title. That being said, I will not be surprised when that happens. Paycheck141 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matts Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, SunDevils said: When you take high school and college combined he just might be the GOAT of Indiana. Strong case for Mason, Howe, and Lee. Escobedo has to be in the equation... ...and, for what it's worth, Sarah Hildebrandt's senior-level world hardware probably makes her the overall Indiana GOAT. Edited March 19, 2023 by matts busstogate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richyy253 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Let’s be honest if Gable had wrestled this year. Parris wouldn’t have had a title. Parris in my opinion has a lot more let to do to be considered the GOAT. AlaskanMountie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith58 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, richyy253 said: Let’s be honest if Gable had wrestled this year. Parris wouldn’t have had a title. Parris in my opinion has a lot more let to do to be considered the GOAT. That's true, but falling short to one of, if not the, greatest Heavyweight(s) in USA history might deserve a little consideration. Edited March 20, 2023 by gsmith58 MUSKEEWRESTLER and patriotfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavyHandz Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 12 hours ago, matts said: Escobedo has to be in the equation... ...and, for what it's worth, Sarah Hildebrandt's senior-level world hardware probably makes her the overall Indiana GOAT. No disrespect to Sarah: she is the home girl. She doesn’t have the high school accolades to be the GOAT. The criteria has to include all 3 levels. AlaskanMountie and Tcarter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformedPoster Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 My Indiana GOAT list based on HS and College (I give more weight to college accomplishments): Nick Lee - only losses in HS were to Micic and Red, 2x Fargo Champ, Jr Pan Am champ, went 5,5,1,1 in college, 5x AA Andrew Howe - 192-1 in HS, Fargo champ, went 2,1,3,2 in college, 4x AA Angel Escobedo - 223-1 in HS, 2x Fargo runner up, went 3,5,1,4 in college, 4x AA, 2x world team member Mason Parris - 206-1 in HS, 2x flo nationals champ, jr world champ, DNP,2,5,1 in college, Jason Tsirtsis - 173-2 in HS, Fargo champ, went 1,3,7 in college This list could change based on international results in the future. If Parris is our guy at 125 kg for the foreseeable future and brings home world/olympic medals he will shoot to the top of the list IU89 and MUSKEEWRESTLER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILUV2PIN Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Don't consider Gable as ours... Mason absolutely goes on the short list of all-time Indiana greats. Can't wait to see if he does anything noteworthy on the international level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 17 hours ago, richyy253 said: Let’s be honest if Gable had wrestled this year. Parris wouldn’t have had a title. Parris in my opinion has a lot more let to do to be considered the GOAT. Parris was the first wrestler from Indiana to win a world title at any age group. He has a seat at the table of the greats and has very strong arguments for best ever from Indiana. M109R, indypharmd, Tcarter and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 14 hours ago, ReformedPoster said: My Indiana GOAT list based on HS and College (I give more weight to college accomplishments): Nick Lee - only losses in HS were to Micic and Red, 2x Fargo Champ, Jr Pan Am champ, went 5,5,1,1 in college, 5x AA Andrew Howe - 192-1 in HS, Fargo champ, went 2,1,3,2 in college, 4x AA Angel Escobedo - 223-1 in HS, 2x Fargo runner up, went 3,5,1,4 in college, 4x AA, 2x world team member Mason Parris - 206-1 in HS, 2x flo nationals champ, jr world champ, DNP,2,5,1 in college, Jason Tsirtsis - 173-2 in HS, Fargo champ, went 1,3,7 in college This list could change based on international results in the future. If Parris is our guy at 125 kg for the foreseeable future and brings home world/olympic medals he will shoot to the top of the list Stevan Micic is the current GOAT based on individual accolades as he’s the only Olympian among the guys you listed. 184-5 in HS, 2013 Cadet World Team Member, 4-2-3 in college, 2020 Olympian, 2022 World Bronze Medalist. Even with no NCAA title, he’s the only one to see major success at the senior international level which I believe adds more weight. Mason would be second as he has a state, NCAA, and Junior world championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformedPoster Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 10 hours ago, blueandgold said: Stevan Micic is the current GOAT based on individual accolades as he’s the only Olympian among the guys you listed. 184-5 in HS, 2013 Cadet World Team Member, 4-2-3 in college, 2020 Olympian, 2022 World Bronze Medalist. Even with no NCAA title, he’s the only one to see major success at the senior international level which I believe adds more weight. Mason would be second as he has a state, NCAA, and Junior world championship. i give less credence to Micic. Yes, he wrestled in the olympics. But he wrestled for Serbia. He wouldn't have made the team if he opted to wrestle for the US. Couple that with less success at the NCAA level than the others and he's further down the list. Just my opinion. IU89 and blueandgold 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachDuke2.0 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Off track a little bit. Who were the two guys that beat angel at fargo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, CoachDuke2.0 said: Off track a little bit. Who were the two guys that beat angel at fargo? 2002 Cadets Greco-Roman 119 lbs. 1st: Cameron Doggett (Ohio) dec Mitch Mueller (Iowa) 6-5 3rd: Angel Escobedo (Indiana) won by tech. fall over Tyler Howard (Oklahoma), 10-0 5th: Andrew Grillo (New York) dec. Vincent Ramirez (North Carolina), 4-3 7th: Cyler Sanderson (Utah) dec. Charles Knox Jr. (Kansas), 13-11 Freestyle 119 lbs. 1st: Jeff Schell (Pennsylvania) dec. Angel Esobedo (Indiana), 6-5 3rd: Khalid Andwele (Florida) dec. Cyler Sanderson (Utah), 6-2 5th: Jeff Becker (Pennsylvania) won by tech. fall over Dallas Seavey (Alaska), 15-3 7th: Tyler Shinn (Oregon) dec. Billy Exline (California), 5-4 2003 Juniors Freestyle 125 pounds 1st – Coleman Scott (PA) dec. Angel Escobedo (IN), 5-2 3rd – Joe Gomez (IL) dec. Mack Reiter (IA), 4-0 5th – Andrew Hochstrasser (UT) dec. Drew Headlee (PA), 9-6 7th – Mitch Mueller (IA) won by tech. fall over Kyle Jahn (CA), 11-1, 4:27 2004 130 ......1 ...Zach Bailey......................Missouri 130 ......2 ...Angel Escobedo ............... Indiana 130 ......3 ...Mitch Mueller ........................ Iowa 130 ......4 ...Nathan Morgan..............California 130 ......5 ...Adam Frey .............. Pennsylvania 130 ......6 ...Andrew Hochstrasser........... Utah 130 ......7 ... Joe Kemmerer........ Pennsylvania 130 ......8 ... Joe Gomez .........................Illinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcarter Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Well earned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcarter Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Give him the Hodge!!!! MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyWrestler03 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Accomplishments are obviously a big factor but I also consider how enjoyable and exciting it is to watch them wrestle. Nick Lee was always so fun to watch because he was constantly on the offense. Mason Parris was fun to watch because he did moves that are traditionally non-HWT moves. Not saying the others weren't enjoyable, just using these two as examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriotfan Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) Hodge Winner! https://www.instagram.com/p/CqTNDmKu7JO/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Edited March 27, 2023 by patriotfan Misty Kendrex, Joshua Olsen, Thor and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionQuest87 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 29 minutes ago, patriotfan said: Hodge Winner! https://www.instagram.com/p/CqTNDmKu7JO/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= That's awesome. Well deserved. Misty Kendrex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paycheck141 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 8 hours ago, patriotfan said: Hodge Winner! https://www.instagram.com/p/CqTNDmKu7JO/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Is he the first wrestler from Indiana to win a Hodge Trophy or have there been others? Misty Kendrex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, Paycheck141 said: Is he the first wrestler from Indiana to win a Hodge Trophy or have there been others? Yes he is the first from Indiana, unless you want to count Gable Stevesons boyhood home. This award has only been around since 1995, so not a tremendously long list of recipients. Paycheck141 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty11 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 That's awesome!! What a great season!! Kerkvelit is really good. Beat him 3 times and dominated everyone else. Well deserved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matts Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Gonna have to say it... ...3 x state Champ, Junior World Champ, B1G Champ, 3 X All American, NCAA Champ, and now a Hodge Trophy... Mason Parris = Indiana Goat M109R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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