ontherise219 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 With the team state seeds being released on New Year’s Day live from the double eagle. My seed prediction 1. Evansville mater dei(MD invite champs) 2. Indianapolis cathedral(Al Smith champs) 3. Brownsburg(2nd at flavin lost to a Wisconsin team) 4. warren central (north Montgomery champ) 5. Perry meridian(3rd at al Smith) 6. Carmel(mooresville champ) 7. ??? 8. ??? Roncalli (3rd at mater dei) mishawka 4th at Al smith beat penn in a crazy dual. Avon- 2nd at MIT in Ohio Penn 6 at al Smith columbus East 9th at al Smith carroll(Fort wayne) 12th at Al Smith Some of these squads haven’t been at full strength baileyjmckivitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonster Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 I agree but I would put Cathedral 1 and EMD 2. Cathedrals schedule has been brutal and all they do is crush it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 29, 2019 Author Share Posted December 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, bluemonster said: I agree but I would put Cathedral 1 and EMD 2. Cathedrals schedule has been brutal and all they do is crush it. The same could be said about Mater dei. Including teams from Illinois, Kentucky and Tennessee. What is their closest dual? ShawSki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 29, 2019 Author Share Posted December 29, 2019 Unfortunately there is No Crown point. The Bulldogs belong there and are one of the best teams in the state al Smith results 106 Goin Champ 113 Frazier 3rd 120 Bettich 2nd 126 Roberson Champ 132 mendez Champ 138 tattini(back up) 8th I think Goodwin is top 4 if he competes 145 Cruz 2nd 152 Willems 7th 160 Hollendonner 4th 170 taborski 2-2 DNP 182 ayala didn’t wrestle 195 McElroy 1-2 dnp 220 woods 1-2 DNP 285 Ruess 1-2 DNP Sig40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestleMan Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, ontherise219 said: The same could be said about Mater dei. Including teams from Illinois, Kentucky and Tennessee. What is their closest dual? I believe it is Avon 61-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Mater Dei should be the favorite, pending if Fitts makes the lineup. MD versus Brownsburg. I've got MD winning 6 and BB winning 6 with two even matches. I give MD the advantage with their ability to get extra points. This will be a great dual! 106 BB major miller/Egli 113 MD major Ross/Haines 120 MD major Hayhurst/Garcia 126 Freeman versus Montgomery is too close too call! wash 132 MD major Egli/Singh 138 Boarman versus Campbell is too close too call! wash 145 BB dec Bauman/Ciccarelii 152 BB dec Fitts/Cookerly 160 MD dec Dickens/Asbury 170 MD dec Sollars/Glover 182 MD major Parkinson/Zimmerman 195 BB dec McGrew/Street 220 BB major Boots/Jones 285 BB fall Keys/Ralph MD versus Cathedral. I have MD winning 7 matches to Cathedral's 5 with two swing matches. This will be another great dual! 106 MD dec Egli/Dickey 113 MD major Ross/Reyes 120 CA major Hayhurst/Seltzer 126 MD dec Freeman/Gonzo 132 MD major Egli/Perez 138 MD dec Boarman/Bailey 145 CA dec Bauman/Stewart 152 MD dec Fitts/Urasky 160 Dickens versus Rodgers is too close too call! wash 170 Sollars versus Wagner is too close to call! wash 182 MD dec Parkinson/Rogers 195 CA dec McGrew/Brady 220 CA dec Boots/Guhl 285 CA fall Parsons/Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpt189 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 With Fitts dq’d at the Classic, would he be able to wrestle at team state? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 As it is most years, shifting the lineup in a couple spots to take advantage of bonus points will be the key to winning one of these big duals. It’s got to be dizzying trying to figure these type of shifts out, sometimes on the fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 27 minutes ago, jpt189 said: With Fitts dq’d at the Classic, would he be able to wrestle at team state? If not, then it could be a coach's decision as well. 8 minutes ago, MattM said: As it is most years, shifting the lineup in a couple spots to take advantage of bonus points will be the key to winning one of these big duals. It’s got to be dizzying trying to figure these type of shifts out, sometimes on the fly. Mater Dei is solid at so many weights I am not sure where they bump. I could see BB and CA bump to get one of their studs to take someone out. It will be interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionsFan Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, navy80 said: If not, then it could be a coach's decision as well. I don’t think this is up to the coach. If a wrestler is DQed then they have to sit the next contest. FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Seeds may be affected by a few teams who blatantly refuse to submit results from duals and other events. If you see a headscratcher I'd look at the team's IndianaMat profile and see what information has been submitted. baileyjmckivitz, Cricket21 and AJ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, LionsFan said: I don’t think this is up to the coach. If a wrestler is DQed then they have to sit the next contest. Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIwrestling Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, FCFIGHTER170 said: Bingo Mater Dei could just schedule a dual meet this week to get around that. FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 minute ago, SIwrestling said: Mater Dei could just schedule a dual meet this week to get around that. Well well is that so? If so idk how to feel about that.. not that it matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 47 minutes ago, SIwrestling said: Mater Dei could just schedule a dual meet this week to get around that. I think their school and coaching staff have better ethics than that. Cricket21, IMrule, feez and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 59 minutes ago, LionsFan said: I don’t think this is up to the coach. If a wrestler is DQed then they have to sit the next contest. I mean if he was eligible to wrestle, then the coach could decide to hold him out. IMrule 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 hours ago, LionsFan said: I don’t think this is up to the coach. If a wrestler is DQed then they have to sit the next contest. That would only apply to the first round, correct? Surely it wouldn't keep him out of all duals at Team State (not factoring in how his coaches handle things, just the rule)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 7 hours ago, WrestleMan said: I believe it is Avon 61-6 North Posey 61-15 Bloomington South 63-9 Avon 61-6 Cricket21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 5 hours ago, navy80 said: Mater Dei should be the favorite, pending if Fitts makes the lineup. MD versus Brownsburg. I've got MD winning 6 and BB winning 6 with two even matches. I give MD the advantage with their ability to get extra points. This will be a great dual! 106 BB major miller/Egli 113 MD major Ross/Haines 120 MD major Hayhurst/Garcia 126 Freeman versus Montgomery is too close too call! wash 132 MD major Egli/Singh 138 Boarman versus Campbell is too close too call! wash 145 BB dec Bauman/Ciccarelii 152 BB dec Fitts/Cookerly 160 MD dec Dickens/Asbury 170 MD dec Sollars/Glover 182 MD major Parkinson/Zimmerman 195 BB dec McGrew/Street 220 BB major Boots/Jones 285 BB fall Keys/Ralph MD versus Cathedral. I have MD winning 7 matches to Cathedral's 5 with two swing matches. This will be another great dual! 106 MD dec Egli/Dickey 113 MD major Ross/Reyes 120 CA major Hayhurst/Seltzer 126 MD dec Freeman/Gonzo 132 MD major Egli/Perez 138 MD dec Boarman/Bailey 145 CA dec Bauman/Stewart 152 MD dec Fitts/Urasky 160 Dickens versus Rodgers is too close too call! wash 170 Sollars versus Wagner is too close to call! wash 182 MD dec Parkinson/Rogers 195 CA dec McGrew/Brady 220 CA dec Boots/Guhl 285 CA fall Parsons/Ralph Navy, not sure how much it would change things, but Freeman is down to 120 and Hayhurst is at 126. Could Freeman - Seltzer stay within a decision and not a major? Cricket21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said: Seeds may be affected by a few teams who blatantly refuse to submit results from duals and other events. If you see a headscratcher I'd look at the team's IndianaMat profile and see what information has been submitted. i agree with you that it is very frustrating seeing no details from all of these duals. That said, and I am not sure it helps, but you can at least see the individual records of Mater Dei's wrestlers by looking at the MD Classic on Track. Would be a pain if you had to go to external sources to find info on every team, I get that. But at least I thought I'd remind you guys the info is there, knowing you have a ton of other stuff going on at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, SWINfan said: i agree with you that it is very frustrating seeing no details from all of these duals. That said, and I am not sure it helps, but you can at least see the individual records of Mater Dei's wrestlers by looking at the MD Classic on Track. Would be a pain if you had to go to external sources to find info on every team, I get that. But at least I thought I'd remind you guys the info is there, knowing you have a ton of other stuff going on at the moment. It's not just one team, it's multiple. It is stated in the documents that are sent to teams to submit your results on IndianaMat. Also records do not mean much as they only tell a little part of what is going on. If you were to research and seed 36 teams wouldn't you like to have the coaches at least help a little bit with the information? Cricket21, SWINfan, piscis1956 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionsFan Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 8 hours ago, SWINfan said: That would only apply to the first round, correct? Surely it wouldn't keep him out of all duals at Team State (not factoring in how his coaches handle things, just the rule)? It would sit him out if the next event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 9 hours ago, SWINfan said: Navy, not sure how much it would change things, but Freeman is down to 120 and Hayhurst is at 126. Could Freeman - Seltzer stay within a decision and not a major? Thanks, SWIN. That changes things up. Freeman could get some bonus points against BB and I can see him keeping close with Seltzer or getting majored. Hayhurst would win against CA and likely lose against BB's Montgomery. Although the way he wrestled Lowery, we may be surprised! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 17 hours ago, navy80 said: Mater Dei should be the favorite, pending if Fitts makes the lineup. MD versus Brownsburg. I've got MD winning 6 and BB winning 6 with two even matches. I give MD the advantage with their ability to get extra points. This will be a great dual! 106 BB major miller/Egli 113 MD major Ross/Haines 120 MD major Hayhurst/Garcia 126 Freeman versus Montgomery is too close too call! wash 132 MD major Egli/Singh 138 Boarman versus Campbell is too close too call! wash 145 BB dec Bauman/Ciccarelii 152 BB dec Fitts/Cookerly 160 MD dec Dickens/Asbury 170 MD dec Sollars/Glover 182 MD major Parkinson/Zimmerman 195 BB dec McGrew/Street 220 BB major Boots/Jones 285 BB fall Keys/Ralph MD versus Cathedral. I have MD winning 7 matches to Cathedral's 5 with two swing matches. This will be another great dual! 106 MD dec Egli/Dickey 113 MD major Ross/Reyes 120 CA major Hayhurst/Seltzer 126 MD dec Freeman/Gonzo 132 MD major Egli/Perez 138 MD dec Boarman/Bailey 145 CA dec Bauman/Stewart 152 MD dec Fitts/Urasky 160 Dickens versus Rodgers is too close too call! wash 170 Sollars versus Wagner is too close to call! wash 182 MD dec Parkinson/Rogers 195 CA dec McGrew/Brady 220 CA dec Boots/Guhl 285 CA fall Parsons/Ralph After watching him at Al Smith Evan Dickey is really good I wouldn’t be surprised to see him be a major part of cathedral success. graham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, ontherise219 said: After watching him at Al Smith Evan Dickey is really good I wouldn’t be surprised to see him be a major part of cathedral success. Yep. One of a few suggested outcomes above that I believe either would go the other way, or should be considered a tossup for sure. But hey, you know what they say about opinions. ontherise219 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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