In The Bleachers Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 i know that this will probably be more of a conversation next week but I still want to throw it out there. The ranking standings right now has... Merriville 7 New Castle 4 Evansville 2 Fort Wayne 1 And in just my opinion Merriville- 6 New Castle- 3 Evansville- 3 Fort Wayne- 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I can agree with both situations. Merrillville has the most champs but might not have the most placers. It's different every year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I think the lack of absolute locks makes for a very exciting year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjayroza Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Good point OTR 219... Who would be your locks this year? Here are mine... * Red * N. Lee * Forte * Rypel James may be a lock as well, but I think the Cash match can potentially be interesting. With that being said, only one MV semi-state lock, so although I too think Merrillville will have the most champs it is by far not certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger.dad Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 As a better look at what semi state is the "most powerful" what is the total number of top 8 placers from each semi state? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjayroza Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I think NC would win in that debate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanatic46041 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Good point OTR 219... Who would be your locks this year? Here are mine... * Red * N. Lee * Forte * Rypel James may be a lock as well, but I think the Cash match can potentially be interesting. With that being said, only one MV semi-state lock, so although I too think Merrillville will have the most champs it is by far not certain. STRECK? Not considered a lock then huh!! Edited February 11, 2015 by fanatic46041 dwise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 STRECK? Not considered a lock then huh!! He's got to get through Oglesby and that's a tough matchup. I wouldn't call either heavyweight a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitup123 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Las Vegas odds for most state champions by semistate: Merrillville -650 New Castle +250 Evansville +350 Fort Wayne +1100 These, however, are not available at all casinos. In The Bleachers and munges 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) I did some math and calculated the projected placing by semi-state based on the latest rankings. I took the top 8 ranked guys from each SS and added them up. Only once was there a SS with 5 ranked guys in the the top 8 and that was 182 at New Castle, so I only gave them credit for four since they can only place four. Of course you have to take ranking with a grain of salt as we know things will be somewhat different. Curious to see how actual compares to rankings. Projected top 8 placers Fort Wayne =22 Evansville = 25 Merrillville= 26 New Castle=39 Edited February 11, 2015 by Wrestling Scholar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling4EVER Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Good point OTR 219... Who would be your locks this year? Here are mine... * Red * N. Lee * Forte * Rypel James may be a lock as well, but I think the Cash match can potentially be interesting. With that being said, only one MV semi-state lock, so although I too think Merrillville will have the most champs it is by far not certain. it may sound crazy and alot of people may not agree but i dont believe forte is an ABSOLUTE lock. kemper is very very good. Edited February 11, 2015 by Wrestling4EVER loscoz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito pepperelli Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 it may sound crazy and alot of people mayu npt agree but i dont believe forte is an ABSOLUTE lock. kemper is very very good. Mr. Forte would be going for title #3 if LeCount wasn't in his way last year. Put me in the absolute lock category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I didn't think that anything is ever a true lock but pretty close 1. Rypel- win by fall over semi finalist Scott 2. Chad red- 2x undefeated champ 3. Forte champ 2x finalist 4. Nick lee 1 high school loss to a 3x 5. Drew Hughes just majored a runner up 6. Cummings Lowell 120 and 170 have been the best to rank all year because the talent is so deep 113 has 2 runners up 138 has 2 finalist/champ 145 has a finalist a couple medalist 182 is deep with talent 220 woods has been tigr with guerra 285 2 talented semi finalist I still feel like this season could have a lot of guys who wrestle we'll win that weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgyorks Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 New castle kids eat each other up in the ticket rd. evidence dingos preview. Now before all u region people crucify me, I know there are death matches there too. I just think there is an inordinate amout at NC this year. So I think our placers might be down? There are many tough tickets at FW & EV too. There no one can yell at me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth34 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 My picks in order of confidence: 1) 126 - Red 2) 152 - Forte 3) 132 - Lee 4) 195 - Rypel (a few studs Tonte, Anderson, Scott, but I think Rypel is that good) 5) 138 - James (had to think twice about putting 138 this high with Cash in this weight, but again I think James is that good) 6) 220 - Woods (finds a way to get it done) 7) 106 - Cummings (one of the weaker weight classes) 8) 182 - Osborn (one of the weaker weight classes) 9) 145 - Covaciu (definitely some guys who could make it interesting: McCormick, Lawrence, etc.) 10) 160 - Hughes (I think he could be higher up on this list, but Schurg makes me hesitate on this pick) 11) 285 - Streck (two nationally ranked studs battle it out) 12) 113 - Pepple (4th at Super32 vs. Konrath Cadet National Champ) 13) 170 - Stevenson (I'll take the defending champ, but this weight class has some studs with Jackson, Harvey, Lydy, etc) 14) 120 - Hudkins (This weight class is a mess. New #1 every update) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvertone1696 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Hughes handed Schurg a pretty decisive loss...11-0 I believe in the Crown town regional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Hughes handed Schurg a pretty decisive loss...11-0 I believe in the Crown town regional I dont see Schurg getting past Sopko to even have a shot at Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfangms Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 While I tend to lean toward Sopko beating Schurg, I wouldn't bet on it. If you told me 4 years ago that Scottie Sopko's best showing at the state finals would be his freshman year, I would have disagreed wholeheartedly, but as it stands, a loss in the ticket round to Schurg can make that a reality. Bad deal for both, Schurg finished 2nd last year and has a chance to not even be at Banker's Life in a week. Two kids I have really enjoyed watching over the past 4 years, it's a shame that one will be left home after Saturday's quarterfinals. poitup123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 While I tend to lean toward Sopko beating Schurg, I wouldn't bet on it. If you told me 4 years ago that Scottie Sopko's best showing at the state finals would be his freshman year, I would have disagreed wholeheartedly, but as it stands, a loss in the ticket round to Schurg can make that a reality. Bad deal for both, Schurg finished 2nd last year and has a chance to not even be at Banker's Life in a week. Two kids I have really enjoyed watching over the past 4 years, it's a shame that one will be left home after Saturday's quarterfinals. Good point. If you look at each individuals state tournanment history in big matches, Schurg has faired better. There something to be said thats it not easy to wrestle under pressure. Some kids do it better than others. Should make some for some good drama on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfangms Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I'd love this to be the type of match where a bunch of points are scored, both are capable of this, but with the stakes being so high, I think we see a low scoring match, 3-1 or 5-2 is my guess. Using Hughes as my measuring stick, I think Sopko gets one or two takedowns and Schurg gets one or two escapes. Sopko is my pick, but again, I'm not betting, Schurg is tough as nails, I just don't think he's wrestling as well as he has in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosseallstar812 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 this is so ignorant. Everyone has someone "in there way". I would have been the best wrestler of all time. If it wasn't for all the other good guys getting in my way. Mr. Forte would be going for title #3 if LeCount wasn't in his way last year. Put me in the absolute lock category. I would also be the best at grammar if I could figure out how to use there and their. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito pepperelli Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I'm lost, I didn't type that first sentence??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Bleachers Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 ya that is funny went back and read your post again and that is definitely not stated and there is no editing either. crazy. Conspiracy I think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 it may sound crazy and alot of people may not agree but i dont believe forte is an ABSOLUTE lock. kemper is very very good.Kemper is going to have to get past Dunn first to prove his #2 ranking. In my opinion, I don't think that happens. I think Dunn gasses Kemper out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU89 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Kemper is going to have to get past Dunn first to prove his #2 ranking. In my opinion, I don't think that happens. I think Dunn gasses Kemper out You obviously haven't been paying attention. Kemper is in great shape this year and will not get gassed. He wins this match easily. backtothemat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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