maligned Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I've tried to raise this subject before, but it seems to go off-topic quickly into best team ever. With college commitments from them now complete, I want to ask the question again: Is it possible that Brownsburg's current senior class is the best graduating class from one school ever? Or at least the best Top 4 from one class ever? Even if they don't all win it this year (which they definitely could), I think there's an argument for them being the all-time best. If they do all win it, I think it would be pretty hard to suggest anyone else has them topped. Lee: Two titles, ranked #1 in the nation, #6 P4P in the nation, D1 commit Mills: 2nd-3rd-2nd, D1 commit Walton: 8-3-3, college commit Mulkey: 3-2, D1 commit Before you say it, I know, I know...Lawrence North had 4 champs one year--they weren't all seniors. Griffith's group was amazing--not all in the same class. EMD's four champs in '03 were also not all seniors. Still, all of those schools had strong senior groups. Did any of them have three D1 recruits? JMILL, littlevito and Perseverance 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BClark Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Even without Angel, those Griffith three all wrestled Division 1. Andrae & Jose went to IU. Alex to Iowa. 7 state titles. Andrae and Alex college AA's. Alex -- 1-1-1-1 Andrae -- 4-3-1-1 Jose -- 7-2-SQ-1 800lbs Gorilla Mama and JMILL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMILL Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, maligned said: I've tried to raise this subject before, but it seems to go off-topic quickly into best team ever. With college commitments from them now complete, I want to ask the question again: Is it possible that Brownsburg's current senior class is the best graduating class from one school ever? Or at least the best Top 4 from one class ever? Even if they don't all win it this year (which they definitely could), I think there's an argument for them being the all-time best. If they do all win it, I think it would be pretty hard to suggest anyone else has them topped. Lee: Two titles, ranked #1 in the nation, #6 P4P in the nation, D1 commit Mills: 2nd-3rd-2nd, D1 commit Walton: 8-3-3, college commit Mulkey: 3-2, D1 commit Before you say it, I know, I know...Lawrence North had 4 champs one year--they weren't all seniors. Griffith's group was amazing--not all in the same class. EMD's four champs in '03 were also not all seniors. Still, all of those schools had strong senior groups. Did any of them have three D1 recruits? Well..............TBD then I guess we will just wait till Feb and when all 4 win the title's then I guess we will have our answer ???? next question...........is Snyder & Wiesjahn the best coach and assist coach ever ??? #PainTrain #TheCounty edit..........that Griffith class listed above was awesome also for sure !!! Edited November 16, 2017 by JMILL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogs Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Crown Point team of 2009 had 7 guys make it to state. 6 of them placed and three were State champs that year. 5 of them were college commits with three of them going D-1. They all did not graduate that year so really not same as what Brownsburg has accomplished......But was fun to watch that team!!! Kudos to the parents and coaching at Brownsburg. Have something really special there and all four of the kids are great wrestlers but even BETTER young MEN....CONGRATS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12andcounting Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 The MD class of 1996 had a good group. Not quite all the state titles but a solid team. Kevin Head 2,3,4 Scott Schafer 5,2 Roger Nurrenburn SQ Joe Armentano 4 Todd Kite SQ Nick Mayer 6,1 Dan Goebel SQ Matt Voelker 5 8 seniors making it to state in the same year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILUV2PIN Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Wow, didn't fully realize BB is that loaded this year! Crazy stuff when you think about teams past. Crown Point's 09' team was straight up stacked from what I remember. Not much happening at the next level with that group though, save for Tsirtsis's natty title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 2010 Mishawaka Paul Beck 2nd Nick Schrader 4th Matt Guerra 4th Ryan Stahl 4th Danny Abu-Shahab Q Richard Morin 6th Christian Lentz 2nd Thomas Thomas 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Pendoski Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 The Delta teams in the 80's were crazy good. The 03 Mater Dei team was the best I've seen. Here's their seniors results that year: Craig Macke (41-1) Evansville Mater Dei (12) Finished 3rd after losing to Escebedo in the semis Aaron Scott (31-7) Evansville Mater Dei (12) Finished 3rd losing to Tsirtsis in the semis Craig Weinzapfel (38-0) Evansville Mater Dei (12) Champ Dustin Nosko (20-2) Evansville Mater Dei (12) Champ Sam Wildeman (34-1) Evansville Mater Dei (12) Champ We lost a close dual meet to Griffith that year in the team Semi State. After a couple of days of being pissed off about it, we realized that the Mater Dei team had a legit chance to shut us out at team state if we would have won. Macke is on my list of 'best guys to never win'. He was special. throw45 and FCFIGHTER170 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMILL Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ed Pendoski said: The Delta teams in the 80's were crazy good. The 03 Mater Dei team was the best I've seen. Here's their seniors results that year: Craig Macke (41-1) Evansville Mater Dei (12) Finished 3rd after losing to Escebedo in the semis Aaron Scott (31-7) Evansville Mater Dei (12) Finished 3rd losing to Tsirtsis in the semis Craig Weinzapfel (38-0) Evansville Mater Dei (12) Champ Dustin Nosko (20-2) Evansville Mater Dei (12) Champ Sam Wildeman (34-1) Evansville Mater Dei (12) Champ We lost a close dual meet to Griffith that year in the team Semi State. After a couple of days of being pissed off about it, we realized that the Mater Dei team had a legit chance to shut us out at team state if we would have won. Macke is on my list of 'best guys to never win'. He was special. this list has 3 champs and 2 probable runner ups (if we are all being honest with ourselves these guys were not obviously gonna beat Angel or T-shirt but likely the 2nd best guys in weight class and ran into tough semi draws). With this being said I would say this is the vote for best senior class ever...........................unless Brownsburg gets 4 champs this year then it has to goto them !!!! #TheCounty #PainTrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 One thing to consider is that I've pinned Nathan Walton. That has to hurt his stock tremendously. indianmorg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig40 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 22 hours ago, JMILL said: Well..............TBD then I guess we will just wait till Feb and when all 4 win the title's then I guess we will have our answer ???? next question...........is Snyder & Wiesjahn the best coach and assist coach ever ??? #PainTrain #TheCounty edit..........that Griffith class listed above was awesome also for sure !!! Even if all 4 Brownsburg seniors win titles this year that puts them at 6 state titles for the group, which puts them shy 1 to griffith group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said: One thing to consider is that I've pinned Nathan Walton. That has to hurt his stock tremendously. Idk man looks like his shoulder is up elhampion2.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD92 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 On 11/16/2017 at 2:12 PM, JMILL said: Well..............TBD then I guess we will just wait till Feb and when all 4 win the title's then I guess we will have our answer ???? next question...........is Snyder & Wiesjahn the best coach and assist coach ever ??? #PainTrain #TheCounty edit..........that Griffith class listed above was awesome also for sure !!! Not even close to being the best coach/asst coach ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Oof a simple no would suffice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICfan Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 hours ago, MD92 said: Not even close to being the best coach/asst coach ever. After what Snyder accomplished at mishawaka, and how quick they turned around Brownsburg, i cant see how they arent close. If they keep doing what they are doing there could be an arguement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD92 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Not close to Goebel and Helfrich. Will need many, many more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Oh weird you pick emd coaches...... Nah your right and I don't think I'm an anybody but darrick is up there with the best of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICfan Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, MD92 said: Not close to Goebel and Helfrich. Will need many, many more years. Excuse my ignorance, but has Goebel coached up another team? He was amazing and the program they had was amazing. But Snyder and wiesjahn turned brownsburg around immediately, has a nationally ranked team, and where was brownsburg before snyder and wiesjahn. Fabio might be riding Snyder's coatail(kidding wiesjahn, you know your stuff) but what was done at mishawaka, and now at brownsburg, gives them an argument Edited November 18, 2017 by NICfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayruss Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 On 11/16/2017 at 9:18 PM, 12andcounting said: The MD class of 1996 had a good group. Not quite all the state titles but a solid team. Kevin Head 2,3,4 Scott Schafer 5,2 Roger Nurrenburn SQ Joe Armentano 4 Todd Kite SQ Nick Mayer 6,1 Dan Goebel SQ Matt Voelker 5 8 seniors making it to state in the same year. I remember watching that team at state. Studs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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