ontherise219 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 When we had that 10 page post debating if Perry meridian should be invited to team state?? Falcon06, bluemonster, V and M's Dad and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaWrestlingGuy1 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Kinda like when Cathedral didn’t get invited last year, but still got 3rd in the state? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 Yea I remember that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosgrove Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Oh I member ontherise219, BrennanFan and Caleb Spires 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Warren is the definition of a leader.. went out there and went after imho the soon to be 182 state champion..perry is nails V and M's Dad, Zombiedust, lewdwar and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Remember that time when the IHSAA had a awesome team state competition, but dropped. I remember. Sig40, awood2, FCFIGHTER170 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V and M's Dad Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Remember that one time in the Magazine when Perry was unranked? lewdwar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 36 minutes ago, V and M's Dad said: Remember that one time in the Magazine when Perry was unranked? I remember V and M's Dad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, ontherise219 said: When we had that 10 page post debating if Perry meridian should be invited to team state?? Just to clarify..there was never any debate among anyone that saw the resume of what they were bringing up from the JV and 8th grade ranks to fill in for their 9 lost seniors. Edited December 24, 2017 by maligned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 26 minutes ago, maligned said: Just to clarify..there was never any debate among anyone that saw the resume of what they were bringing up from the JV and 8th grade ranks to fill in for their 9 lost seniors. Where is this at? I’d like to go back and read it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Credentials of 15 of the guys PM used yesterday (as written by their coaching staff last spring about their credentials thru last season...all credentials confirmed during selection process): Cottey, multiple time triple crown, several national placements Kung, 2nd frosh/soph state, beat SQ Petro-CG a couple weeks ago Fair, 5th at high school state in ’15-16, injured at SS this year Sturgis, 8-3 varsity record with a win over a SQ Zepeda, 13-3 varsity record Warren, triple crown winner, several national placements, beat high school state 7th place Culp at Disney Lowery, 12-2 varsity record, multiple SSQ and ticket-round wins between high school and ISWA folkstyle state Servies, high school state qualifier Warren, high school state runner-up Davis, SSQ, beat SQ Padgett of North Central at 160 a few weeks ago Lane, 16-6 varsity record, 7th at frosh/soph state, Marion Co. frosh champ Below, 17-4 varsity record, win over a SSQ in-season Hammond, missed last year due to football, total beast—pinned our 220 SSQ, previous Marion Co. frosh champ; son of PM's first-ever state champ Rastrelli, 11-1 varsity record Jones, former MS State champ & Marion Co. frosh champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, maligned said: Credentials of 15 of the guys PM used yesterday (as written by their coaching staff last spring about their credentials thru last season...all credentials confirmed during selection process): Cottey, multiple time triple crown, several national placements Kung, 2nd frosh/soph state, beat SQ Petro-CG a couple weeks ago Fair, 5th at high school state in ’15-16, injured at SS this year Sturgis, 8-3 varsity record with a win over a SQ Zepeda, 13-3 varsity record Warren, triple crown winner, several national placements, beat high school state 7th place Culp at Disney Lowery, 12-2 varsity record, multiple SSQ and ticket-round wins between high school and ISWA folkstyle state Servies, high school state qualifier Warren, high school state runner-up Davis, SSQ, beat SQ Padgett of North Central at 160 a few weeks ago Lane, 16-6 varsity record, 7th at frosh/soph state, Marion Co. frosh champ Below, 17-4 varsity record, win over a SSQ in-season Hammond, missed last year due to football, total beast—pinned our 220 SSQ, previous Marion Co. frosh champ; son of PM's first-ever state champ Rastrelli, 11-1 varsity record Jones, former MS State champ & Marion Co. frosh champ So you are saying there was no debate before all of those teams declined if Perry would be in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 11 hours ago, IndianaWrestlingGuy said: Kinda like when Cathedral didn’t get invited last year, but still got 3rd in the state? You’re using their finish at individual state last year to argue whether they belonged at team state last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 Scores now updated and finalized through state. A summary of the final results: East Chicago automatic bid: Portage Evansville auto bid: Brownsburg New Castle auto bid: Cathedral Fort Wayne auto bid: Carroll Automatic wildcards (6): Avon, Merrillville, Columbus East, Mater Dei, Castle, Penn Eligible for both vote-in spots: Roncalli, Harrison, Crown Point, Perry Meridian, Chesterton, Center Grove Return = number of returning starters next season * = injury or transfer points included Rank Score Return Class 3A Teams 1 257.5 11 Portage 2 251 10 Brownsburg 3 230 11 Indianapolis Cathedral 4 217 11 Avon 5 213.5 10 Merrillville 6 209 14 Columbus East* 7 206.5 9 Evansville Mater Dei 8 199 11 Castle* 9 196 8 Penn 10 195 10 Roncalli 11 189.5 13 Harrison (West Lafayette) 12 189.5 11 Crown Point 13 188 10 Chesterton 14 184.5 5 Perry Meridian 15 183 10 Center Grove 16 170 7 Carroll (Fort Wayne) I went back and read the archived 12 page post judging by these scorevi do not believe you had Perry as a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 What’s the story on Donnell Washington? Track has him placing and qualifying in Illinois state finals. He sure did pick a good school to transfer to! Perry only had 5 returning wrestlers from last season?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Pepridge farm remembers bog190 and ontherise219 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 3 hours ago, ontherise219 said: Scores now updated and finalized through state. A summary of the final results: East Chicago automatic bid: Portage Evansville auto bid: Brownsburg New Castle auto bid: Cathedral Fort Wayne auto bid: Carroll Automatic wildcards (6): Avon, Merrillville, Columbus East, Mater Dei, Castle, Penn Eligible for both vote-in spots: Roncalli, Harrison, Crown Point, Perry Meridian, Chesterton, Center Grove Return = number of returning starters next season * = injury or transfer points included Rank Score Return Class 3A Teams 1 257.5 11 Portage 2 251 10 Brownsburg 3 230 11 Indianapolis Cathedral 4 217 11 Avon 5 213.5 10 Merrillville 6 209 14 Columbus East* 7 206.5 9 Evansville Mater Dei 8 199 11 Castle* 9 196 8 Penn 10 195 10 Roncalli 11 189.5 13 Harrison (West Lafayette) 12 189.5 11 Crown Point 13 188 10 Chesterton 14 184.5 5 Perry Meridian 15 183 10 Center Grove 16 170 7 Carroll (Fort Wayne) I went back and read the archived 12 page post judging by these scorevi do not believe you had Perry as a lock. Do you remember back in the posts whe two of the state rankers said Harrison didnt belong in team state tournament because they wrestle in a joke regional. Hey Harrison took 9th and got stuck in the toughest pool. If were on the renember that one theme, do you remember the members from the Hobart regime saying Harrison sucked, only got in because theyre from a joke regional, and that Harrison would finish last at team state. Well Harrison won a match Brickfor6, and last time i checked, Hobart isnt ranked. unknown wrestler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Would you beaten any other seeded teams in the easier pools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 4 hours ago, ontherise219 said: Scores now updated and finalized through state. A summary of the final results: East Chicago automatic bid: Portage Evansville auto bid: Brownsburg New Castle auto bid: Cathedral Fort Wayne auto bid: Carroll Automatic wildcards (6): Avon, Merrillville, Columbus East, Mater Dei, Castle, Penn Eligible for both vote-in spots: Roncalli, Harrison, Crown Point, Perry Meridian, Chesterton, Center Grove Return = number of returning starters next season * = injury or transfer points included Rank Score Return Class 3A Teams 1 257.5 11 Portage 2 251 10 Brownsburg 3 230 11 Indianapolis Cathedral 4 217 11 Avon 5 213.5 10 Merrillville 6 209 14 Columbus East* 7 206.5 9 Evansville Mater Dei 8 199 11 Castle* 9 196 8 Penn 10 195 10 Roncalli 11 189.5 13 Harrison (West Lafayette) 12 189.5 11 Crown Point 13 188 10 Chesterton 14 184.5 5 Perry Meridian 15 183 10 Center Grove 16 170 7 Carroll (Fort Wayne) I went back and read the archived 12 page post judging by these scorevi do not believe you had Perry as a lock. I meant that once the process played out the way it's supposed to with all the information available--even with less declined bids--there wouldnt have been a rational way to exclude them. All the jabber right when these scores came out was "it's not automatic...let it play out fairly" or "they don't belong bc I love my hometown team." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 53 minutes ago, Fabio Jr. said: Would you beaten any other seeded teams in the easier pools? Look at comparable scores, and i would say Harrison would have had a shot at Roncalli and Penn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Wrestling Scholar said: Look at comparable scores, and i would say Harrison would have had a shot at Roncalli and Penn. But got beat by a merrillville team missing 3 starters Edited December 24, 2017 by ontherise219 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 I remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ontherise219 said: But got smashed by a merrillville team missing 3 starters Are you are bragging on a win that center grove ran 2 forfeits out there in the 3A including missing their best wrestler. As I look at it I am shocked center grove was voted in and couldn’t bring a full roster when 1a team brought full teams and back ups Edited December 24, 2017 by ontherise219 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 25 minutes ago, Wrestling Scholar said: Look at comparable scores, and i would say Harrison would have had a shot at Roncalli and Penn. Compsrasble scores mean nothing in a dual. Look at the semis and finals. It all comes down to match ups. Im sorry you think youre a top 10-12 team but i yet to see it. Good kids solid kids but just not there. Looking over youre schedule there just are not a lot of victories over those people. WE can talk speculation all you want but if the team wants more respect go battle with teams in bottom 10. If it were me Id drop you guys to 20 and move castle who upset Penn. Will you dual any of those guys soon? Ill be happy to be proven wrong but get over the "woe is me" act . You're right Hobart is also not ranked they have also wrestled 4 top 20 teams this year already not to mention the Al smith is coming so add in Cathedral and Columbus East and Penn. But they are not complaining about how they are treated. Just my 2 cents I watched most your pool yesterday scouting portage youre on that bubble just not there yet. good luck the rest of the year. McCartney dropping will be a huge boost to an already loaded 120 class. ontherise219 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montymo118 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 They need to remember that they may have been there, but they are the team we all used to get some of our varsity 2 guys a match. Full true lineups they barely score. You wouldn’t get crap about it if your didn’t sit and talk crap. You have to earn the respect and coming in to semi state 50-0 cause you wreslte no one, doesn’t earn you that respect. I’ll take a region kid or a county kid with a 20-10 record any day! ontherise219 and Sig40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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