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Team competition seems way down from what this tournament use to be.

First handful of kids

 

Colton Cummings    2016 113 State 1st, 2015 106 State 1st, 2014 106 State Qualifier

Michael DeLaPena  2016 126 State 4th,  2015 113 State Qualifier

Kyle Hatch 2015 7th at 120lbs, 2014 8th at 106lbs

Kyler McKinney  2016 Semi-State qualifier

Jason Crary  2016 Qualifier at 138lbs, 2015 7th at 126lbs, 2014 6th at 113lbs

Jon Becker  2016 Qualifier at 126lbs, 2014 Qualifier at 113lbs

Jarod Swank  2016 Qualifier at 160lbs, 2015 Qualifier at 152lbs

Tavonte Malone  2016 Qualifier at 160lbs, 2015 Qualifier at 145lbs

Bryce Baumgartner  2016 Qualifier at 170lbs, 2015 Qualifier at 160lbs, 2014 Qualifier at 160lbs

Jack Tolin  2016 132 State 6th

Brendan Black  2016 132 State 3rd, 2015 120 State Qualifier, 2014 120 State 8th

Kory Cavanaugh 2016 4th at 106lbs, 2015 Qualifier at 106lbs

Riley Rasler  2016 6th at 138lbs

Kassius Breathitt  2 time Semi-State (both losses ticket round)

Garrett Griffin  2 time Semi-State (both losses ticket round)

Tony Busse  2016 Qualifier at 160lbs

Tristan Goering  2016 Qualifier at 170lbs, 2015 4th at 160lbs

Andrew Davison  2016 Qualifier at 182lbs, 2015 5th at 182lbs

David Eli  2016 5th at 182lbs, 2015 7th at 182lbs

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If anything the team competition is stronger than it use to be. They have been doing a great job of eliminating teams that have a lot of forfeits and trying to bring in solid teams. I see this tournament stronger team-wise now than back in the 2000s and late 1990s.

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If anything the team competition is stronger than it use to be. They have been doing a great job of eliminating teams that have a lot of forfeits and trying to bring in solid teams. I see this tournament stronger team-wise now than back in the 2000s and late 1990s.

I agree the team depth is more.  I think when people are saying the team race is "down", it's because there are only a couple top 10 teams and the favorite is only #5 in the state.  There have been years with a couple Top 5 teams and four in the Top 10, giving the appearance of a stronger team race.  But if you compare the 10th and 20th best teams in the field to 15 years ago, for example, it's gotten stronger in terms of that depth.

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I agree the team depth is more.  I think when people are saying the team race is "down", it's because there are only a couple top 10 teams and the favorite is only #5 in the state.  There have been years with a couple Top 5 teams and four in the Top 10, giving the appearance of a stronger team race.  But if you compare the 10th and 20th best teams in the field to 15 years ago, for example, it's gotten stronger in terms of that depth.

How do we know Portage and Penn aren't top 5 teams.Ranking mean squat, we will find out on the 23rd.

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First handful of kids

 

Colton Cummings 2016 113 State 1st, 2015 106 State 1st, 2014 106 State Qualifier

Michael DeLaPena 2016 126 State 4th, 2015 113 State Qualifier

Kyle Hatch 2015 7th at 120lbs, 2014 8th at 106lbs

Kyler McKinney 2016 Semi-State qualifier

Jason Crary 2016 Qualifier at 138lbs, 2015 7th at 126lbs, 2014 6th at 113lbs

Jon Becker 2016 Qualifier at 126lbs, 2014 Qualifier at 113lbs

Jarod Swank 2016 Qualifier at 160lbs, 2015 Qualifier at 152lbs

Tavonte Malone 2016 Qualifier at 160lbs, 2015 Qualifier at 145lbs

Bryce Baumgartner 2016 Qualifier at 170lbs, 2015 Qualifier at 160lbs, 2014 Qualifier at 160lbs

Jack Tolin 2016 132 State 6th

Brendan Black 2016 132 State 3rd, 2015 120 State Qualifier, 2014 120 State 8th

Kory Cavanaugh 2016 4th at 106lbs, 2015 Qualifier at 106lbs

Riley Rasler 2016 6th at 138lbs

Kassius Breathitt 2 time Semi-State (both losses ticket round)

Garrett Griffin 2 time Semi-State (both losses ticket round)

Tony Busse 2016 Qualifier at 160lbs

Tristan Goering 2016 Qualifier at 170lbs, 2015 4th at 160lbs

Andrew Davison 2016 Qualifier at 182lbs, 2015 5th at 182lbs

David Eli 2016 5th at 182lbs, 2015 7th at 182lbs

Kerrn? Edited by BClark

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great idea... so a kid could be a three time champ here but placement at a different tournament takes precedence. yeah good... glad that wasn't my idea

Edited by MCKAJC

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I think Colton Cummings will get a #1 seed

 

last year champ should. there will be lower placing al smith kids from 2015 seeded ahead of al smith finalists and champs from 2015. that's... well... ridiculous. can't ever remember a tournament that used a different event as #1 criteria. unless it was a first year event or event qualifier

Edited by MCKAJC

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