HawkinIndy Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Are semi-state draws out yet? It’s like Christmas Eve around here, nothing more exciting than waiting for Santa/Faulkens to deliver us some semi-state draws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike steel Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Look at last years. Probably the same. 106 is always anyway. Mooresville vs castle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Kendrick Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Last year in Evansville, 106 was Bloomington vs Castle. On 1/29/2024 at 7:29 PM, awill0352 said: And doesn't Evansville SS also have the most schools compared to other semi states? You would think they would reorganize a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) As with some of the prior years we will see just how much work they put into using all the possible formula options and making them actually “random.” Hate to think some coaches would game the system and suggest a wrestlers take a certain finish. But when state is on the line, most of the other regional seems pretty clear minus a major upset, and the formula becomes predictable I’m sure the thought of having that conversation is there. Still a gamble that maybe too high odds play but again states on the line if the bet lines up. The draw of Semi-State and State are brutal enough as it is. Just hope the IHSAA had the time and forethought to actually use the random generator and all of their possible formula options. Edited February 3 by MattM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, MattM said: As with some of the prior years we will see just how much work they put into making the formula options actually “random.” I wonder if there's a difference this year with some of the new weights, or if they have the same formulas and just changed the weight numbers. Cause the Jay county 2 seed was consistently drawing Carroll for ticket round, which is why we knew once our guy got second at regional last year he was getting Veazy ticket round. So is that seeding the same for 175 this year, or is it actually going to be random? OICU182 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 20 minutes ago, Thor said: I wonder if there's a difference this year with some of the new weights, or if they have the same formulas and just changed the weight numbers. Cause the Jay county 2 seed was consistently drawing Carroll for ticket round, which is why we knew once our guy got second at regional last year he was getting Veazy ticket round. So is that seeding the same for 175 this year, or is it actually going to be random? Jay County 2's hit Peru 1's more often along with the vice versa or Jay County 1's hitting Peru 2's. That's why Jay County has had inflated state qualifier numbers for so many years. BrodyHardcastle and Clint Gard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 18 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said: Jay County 2's hit Peru 1's more often along with the vice versa or Jay County 1's hitting Peru 2's. That's why Jay County has had inflated state qualifier numbers for so many years. My point wasn't that Jay County 2's get bad draws. My point was the draws are rarely random cause of the one example, and I was curious if the formula stays the same for 175 or if they change it up with new weights. Clint Gard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike steel Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 106 evansville last year henderson got rioux byrd got dckman, ticket rd..mooresville vs castle.. Cricket21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Don’t mind me, just roaming the forum looking for that super hidden Double Top Secret Semi State Formula . Heard there was Super Secret Formula's talks in here . I’m Gary, don’t tell the powers at be I’m here yet . OICU182 and Cricket21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Short Jay Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Y2, You care to share those statistics with everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyquhp13 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 inquiring minds want to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttler73 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I thought somewhere on this site that the previous years matrix where used to show how often a formulas did or did not change up. Maybe someone did if for just a certain weight class. I know I tried to go and figured it out for myself for my kids weight once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonster Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, buttler73 said: I thought somewhere on this site that the previous years matrix where used to show how often a formulas did or did not change up. Maybe someone did if for just a certain weight class. I know I tried to go and figured it out for myself for my kids weight once. That's like throwing dice down a hallway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awill0352 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Serious question. When do semi state draws traditionally come out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Semi State Draws Possible #1 vs. #3 at 126 in Evansville, Moorseville Regional errrrrr… Semi State Meat Grinder gave us another year of hammers possible meeting in Blood Round. Every single year they bring the entertainment to Evansville Semi State . Cricket21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 17 minutes ago, awill0352 said: Serious question. When do semi state draws traditionally come out? Typically 9:00-10 pm tonight. Some years later . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Gard Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Funny…I brought this up last year and people said I was crazy. I don’t know how it will be for ECC, but Ft Wayne was NOT random last year. tangarrray, TheTruth1 and BrodyHardcastle 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 38 minutes ago, Clint Gard said: Funny…I brought this up last year and people said I was crazy. I don’t know how it will be for ECC, but Ft Wayne was NOT random last year. Like I said, the 182 draw has been the same 7 out of the past 8 years in Fort Wayne. Clint Gard and BrodyHardcastle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Clint Gard said: Funny…I brought this up last year and people said I was crazy. I don’t know how it will be for ECC, but Ft Wayne was NOT random last year. Prove it then! Quit acting like you know how they will go when you don't. Here are the last 10 years assigning a number to each of the possible formulas. tangarrray, mcnorthcarolina, base and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 5 hours ago, Short Jay said: Y2, You care to share those statistics with everyone? 12 years of SS brackets, this is the number of times these regionals will meet A1 is the champ for the regional vs. the 4th's in the first round A1 vs. the 2nd's and 3rds are the bottom two charts and they would obviously hit in the quarters. XxFIST2FACExX, Espikes and Dwilly 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pug Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Trackwrestling information says 2/5/24 at 3:30 pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Short Jay Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 10 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said: 12 years of SS brackets, this is the number of times these regionals will meet A1 is the champ for the regional vs. the 4th's in the first round A1 vs. the 2nd's and 3rds are the bottom two charts and they would obviously hit in the quarters. Y2, Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnpsulions Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Come on y2 I know you have the secret formular!!!! Share it with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Gard Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 6 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said: Prove it then! Quit acting like you know how they will go when you don't. Here are the last 10 years assigning a number to each of the possible formulas. I don’t think I said anything about knowing how they would go this year but, last year, we were able to know/predict who we would have based on 5-6 years of brackets from the FT Wayne SS. If I remember correctly, one of my assistants nailed the draws for all of our guys. So think what you want, but that doesn’t seem “random” to me. TheTruth1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, Clint Gard said: I don’t think I said anything about knowing how they would go this year but, last year, we were able to know/predict who we would have based on 5-6 years of brackets from the FT Wayne SS. If I remember correctly, one of my assistants nailed the draws for all of our guys. So think what you want, but that doesn’t seem “random” to me. Then tell everyone the draws for this year. Clint Gard and Birdie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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