Y2CJ41 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 I know our dear IHSWCA president @Jcjcjc was in the chat last night, so he knows Mike and I's suggestion. Here is what we said about it and what Mike and I think is the best solution. Hopefully our other leaders like the VP @Ed Pendoski, @Greg Ratliff, and the great one @dstruck all jump on board with this idea. CoachM, Coplen187 and Bulldog89 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog89 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 LET"S DO 12!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Not one person will be mad. Coplen187, Bulldog89 and Y2CJ41 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 #LetFloydIn Steven Sandefer, Cricket21 and MitchRobb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, TripleB said: #LetFloydIn #LetSixTeamsIn #MakeIt12 gogoplata89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog89 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) Edited December 12, 2023 by Bulldog89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 The elementary team state just expanded. They will have more mats down anyway. I do not see the issue with making it 12. Bulldog89 and Y2CJ41 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 Please post @Jcjcjc's phone number so we can send him our thoughts. McWrastlePants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said: Please post @Jcjcjc's phone number so we can send him our thoughts. I do not think that would help my argument. Jcjcjc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogoplata89 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) Last year in 3A the vote in teams finished 2nd and 3rd overall. There are 6 teams on the outside looking in that could potentially win this tournament. Make it 12 and let’s see what happens. Edited December 12, 2023 by gogoplata89 Holden and Bulldog89 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, gogoplata89 said: Last year in 3A the vote in teams finished 3rd and 4th overall. There are 6 teams on the outside looking in that could potentially win this tournament. Make it 12 and let’s see what happens. *2nd and 3rd And the second place team was a super late one due to New Haven dropping out. 3A has the depth that making it 12 teams total for the rest of time is a good thing. One or two kids can drastically affect a team's outlook on the year and predicting them based off of last year is a daunting task. The 7th-10th place teams in the spring standings were 7 points from an automatic qualification. Make it 12 for here on out as this class has proven to be very deep with competitive teams. Edited December 12, 2023 by Y2CJ41 Added more words brickfor6, gogoplata89, Steven Sandefer and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogoplata89 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Y2CJ41 said: *2nd and 3rd And the second place team was a super late one due to New Haven dropping out. 3A has the depth that making it 12 teams total for the rest of time is a good thing. Yes you’re right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Bulldog89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog89 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 hours ago, brickfor6 said: Not one person will be mad. 9 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said: *2nd and 3rd And the second place team was a super late one due to New Haven dropping out. 3A has the depth that making it 12 teams total for the rest of time is a good thing. One or two kids can drastically affect a team's outlook on the year and predicting them based off of last year is a daunting task. The 7th-10th place teams in the spring standings were 7 points from an automatic qualification. Make it 12 for here on out as this class has proven to be very deep with competitive teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infowrestling Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Why stop at 12? Let's go with 64! Beavman10 and piscis1956 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence Dogood Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, infowrestling said: Why stop at 12? Let's go with 64! Bulldog89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 Some positive points about making it 12 permanently and even having a last minute change. 1. We shouldn't be trying to get teams to drop out. Making team state is a cool accomplishment for every team. Building your team up since last spring, throughout the off-season and early in the season to only tell them... well we lost so and so to injury/transfer we won't be competitive is not right. We can't expect a coach to do that every year. Our formula is great, but not a crystal ball. 2. The 3A depth is deserving of adding 4 more teams. It has been shown the past couple years team #9 affected the outcome. 3. We don't want to miss teams that will be competitive at the event. I'd rather have a couple not as competitive teams than miss on one team. 4. The margin for error with picking 8 teams is very small with the combination of the formula and voting. Steven Sandefer and Coplen187 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog89 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 "The 12 Days of Christmas"= "The 12 Teams of 3A" Y2CJ41, ontherise219 and Coplen187 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 The people want... Steven Sandefer and Bulldog89 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 We will soon learn how many different "12" gifs there are on giphy. brickfor6 and Bulldog89 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugger44 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I see that Floyd is ranked 2nd in 3A, and 6th in the power poll. On the gorilla radio show the other night it was discussed that they would most likely not get voted in because they lost to Cathedral. I always feel the rankers do a pretty good job but it seems messed up that the 2nd ranked team would not get the nod. So I ask, are the guys that do the rankings over estimating how good Floyd is, or is the voting committee underestimating how good they are? I hope the 12 team format will be used! Bulldog89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 43 minutes ago, Rugger44 said: I see that Floyd is ranked 2nd in 3A, and 6th in the power poll. On the gorilla radio show the other night it was discussed that they would most likely not get voted in because they lost to Cathedral. I always feel the rankers do a pretty good job but it seems messed up that the 2nd ranked team would not get the nod. So I ask, are the guys that do the rankings over estimating how good Floyd is, or is the voting committee underestimating how good they are? I hope the 12 team format will be used! There are two vote-in spots(currently) New Pal- beat former #1 Roncalli and beat Greenfield-Central Floyd Central- Beat Greenfield-Central, lost 45-25 to Cathedral Franklin- Lost to Cathedral 36-34, beat former #3 Mishawaka Greenfield-Central- Lost to Columbus East, Floyd Central, and New Palestine, beat Delta and Warren Central Hobart- Beat Plymouth Plymouth- Beat Mishawaka and McCutcheon Based on the common of Cathedral, it could be assumed Franklin is a little better than Floyd Central. The voting for 2 spots will possibly be very heated and full of a lot of debates. It probably doesn't help that some coaches are spamming those voters with the reason their team should be choosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Professor Morgan Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Pretty sure Franklin beat Cathedral 36-34 Y2CJ41 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 minute ago, The Professor Morgan said: Pretty sure Franklin beat Cathedral 36-34 That's why you're the professor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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