Joe Exotics Wildcats Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 In my opinion, give me the guy that beat Kyle Dake and has taken periods (in the old format) from arguably the greatest American wrestler ever. The hand fighting that Andrew Howe would give to opponents made me feel tired, just watching it. I think Howe is the best to come out of Indiana, and to me, its not very close. jshep86 and oldfat119 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 56 minutes ago, QuinnHarris said: He did what he had to do. He’s on an Olympic team the others aren’t. You can’t take anything away from him for taking an opportunity and making the most of it! Don't get me wrong - wrestling for an Olympic team is unbelievable - BUT, BUT, if you're comparing best vs. best ....I don't know, taking the easy route to making the team ....seems like it would be a black-eye when making the argument IU89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuinnHarris Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, maligned said: I agree with this too in general. There's no arguing he has an easier path to competition opportunities--but he's taken advantage of those opportunities to be consistently a 5th placer or medalist at Euros and worlds. Forget Indiana, American 57/61kg reps as a nation couldn't claim Micic's consistent high-level results before Gilman for the prior 15+ years. Alex Dolley also did this with Ireland I believe, but as @malignedstated no Americans have seen success at 57/61KG for America in the recent past! Micic college career is also very touted and he is a 3x State Champion in HS. To add to all of this he is still in his 20s and still competing! MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuinnHarris Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, jets said: Don't get me wrong - wrestling for an Olympic team is unbelievable - BUT, BUT, if you're comparing best vs. best ....I don't know, taking the easy route to making the team ....seems like it would be a black-eye when making the argument So if you're top 3 in the WORLD and have the opportunity to wrestle for another country so that you don't have to go through the insane process of making a US olympic team you wouldn't bypass that? MUSKEEWRESTLER, igotcaught, bomber_bob and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1936 Richard Voliva Bloomington South Event: Olympic Freestyle Championship Weight: 79kg Place: 2nd ILUV2PIN and busstogate 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 3 hours ago, jets said: Don't get me wrong - wrestling for an Olympic team is unbelievable - BUT, BUT, if you're comparing best vs. best ....I don't know, taking the easy route to making the team ....seems like it would be a black-eye when making the argument He literally is a World Bronze Medalist MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 55 minutes ago, blueandgold said: He literally is a World Bronze Medalist That is AWESOME!!!! Again though - if we are comparing best vs. best (which wasn't that the purpose of this thread?) - I don't think you can reference the World medals in your argument and not at least acknowledge the fact he kind of "gamed" the system to that route Andrew Howe stuck behind Burroughs Kyle Dake stuck behind Burroughs (for a while) Synder stuck behind Cox (maybe one cycle?) Fix loses to Gilman and vice-versa A lot of these guys could have more world medals if wrestling for another Country. They choose (or weren't able to) go that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformedPoster Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 18 hours ago, jets said: That is AWESOME!!!! Again though - if we are comparing best vs. best (which wasn't that the purpose of this thread?) - I don't think you can reference the World medals in your argument and not at least acknowledge the fact he kind of "gamed" the system to that route Andrew Howe stuck behind Burroughs Kyle Dake stuck behind Burroughs (for a while) Synder stuck behind Cox (maybe one cycle?) Fix loses to Gilman and vice-versa A lot of these guys could have more world medals if wrestling for another Country. They choose (or weren't able to) go that route. Snyder wasn't stuck behind Cox. Taylor was stuck behind Burroughs and then Cox for a cycle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, ReformedPoster said: Snyder wasn't stuck behind Cox. Taylor was stuck behind Burroughs and then Cox for a cycle Thanks Mr. FackChecker Point still remains...., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence Dogood Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 19 hours ago, jets said: That is AWESOME!!!! Again though - if we are comparing best vs. best (which wasn't that the purpose of this thread?) - I don't think you can reference the World medals in your argument and not at least acknowledge the fact he kind of "gamed" the system to that route Andrew Howe stuck behind Burroughs Kyle Dake stuck behind Burroughs (for a while) Synder stuck behind Cox (maybe one cycle?) Fix loses to Gilman and vice-versa A lot of these guys could have more world medals if wrestling for another Country. They choose (or weren't able to) go that route. 1 hour ago, ReformedPoster said: Snyder wasn't stuck behind Cox. Taylor was stuck behind Burroughs and then Cox for a cycle 44 minutes ago, jets said: Thanks Mr. FackChecker Point still remains...., More fact checking...Snyder, Dake, and Fix are not from Indiana. indianmorg and Disco 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, Silence Dogood said: More fact checking...Snyder, Dake, and Fix are not from Indiana. You people are hilarious Point still remains. Disco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCCOACH Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Best part of this conversation is, that both Howe and Micic are from Hanover Central! julio, indianmorg, oldfat119 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, HCCOACH said: Best part of this conversation is, that both Howe and Micic are from Hanover Central! Any Pub is Good Pub ! School produces HAMMERS . I’m not even from there and think that’s pretty cool . MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence Dogood Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 hours ago, HCCOACH said: Best part of this conversation is, that both Howe and Micic are from Hanover Central! Seriously. Let them figure out who is the best from Hanover Central before we have to figure out the best from Indiana. maligned and MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 hours ago, TeamGarcia said: Any Pub is Good Pub ! School produces HAMMERS . I’m not even from there and think that’s pretty cool . From a guy who has my vote. TeamGarcia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayinSTL Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 @FCFIGHTER170’s mullet is more glorious now than it was in HS. Disco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianmorg Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 13 hours ago, TeamGarcia said: Any Pub is Good Pub ! School produces HAMMERS . I’m not even from there and think that’s pretty cool . Must be something brewing in that Cedar Tuck water MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legridn Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 11:12 PM, beaner2 said: Seriously? WTH? I'd hate to be defined by or calling out a legend of wrasslin' cuz of stupid politics. Mick is a good dude that put his awkward body on the line every night to please fans like you, just so you can bring up politics on a HS Wrestling Forum Mick is a legend. You? I agree with Copeland187. Maybe 20 years ago stuff like that did not matter but it’s different now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaner2 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, Legridn said: I agree with Copeland187. Maybe 20 years ago stuff like that did not matter but it’s different now. That's likely the dumbest post I've read today. This is a high school wrestling forum. At no point should politics come into play on this site. To state such, only cements how youve been programmed by propaganda. Focus on the kids and the great sport of wrestling. rmckinney88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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