blueandgold Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) AMENDED VERSION Seeds Frank Hammond '92, Perry Meridian Chico Adams '08, Perry Meridian Shawn Streck '16, Merrillville Christopher Kasten '05, Winamac Dexter Larimore '06, Merrillville Andy Schneider '94, Mount Vernon (Posey) Donte Winfield '13, Perry Meridian Wesley Bernard '14, Cathedral Eli Pokorney '18, Chesterton Evan Ellis '17, Eastern (Greentown) Greg Wagner '01, Fort Wayne Snider Chad Ruggeri '04, Mount Vernon (Posey) Adam Chalfant '09, Winchester Bubba Dickerson '96, New Castle Abraham Hall '12, Bremen Ross Janney '10, Yorktown First Round Pairings #1 Frank Hammond '92 (Perry Meridian) vs. #16 Ross Janney '10 (Yorktown) #2 Chico Adams '08 (Perry Meridian) vs. #15 Abraham Hall '12 (Bremen) #3 Shawn Streck '16 (Merrillville) vs. #14 Bubba Dickerson (New Castle) #4 Christopher Kasten '05 (Winamac) vs. #13 Adam Chalfant '09 (Winchester) #5 Dexter Larimore '06 (Merrillville) vs. #12 Chad Ruggeri (Mount Vernon - Posey) #6 Andy Schneider '94 (Mount Vernon - Posey) vs. #11 Greg Wagner '01 (Fort Wayne Snider) #7 Donte Winfield '13 (Perry Meridian) vs. #10 Evan Ellis '17 (Eastern - Greentown) #8 Wesley Bernard '14 (Cathedral) vs. #9 Eli Pokorney '18 (Chesterton) Quarterfinal Predictions #1 Frank Hammond '92 (Perry Meridian) vs. #8 Wesley Bernard (Cathedral) #2 Chico Adams '08 (Perry Meridian) vs. #7 Donte Winfield '13 (Perry Meridian) #3 Shawn Streck '16 (Merrillville) vs. #11 Greg Wagner (Fort Wayne Snider) #4 Christopher Kasten '05 (Winamac) vs. #5 Dexter Larimore '06 (Merrillville) Edited December 22, 2022 by blueandgold navy80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Professor Morgan Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Semi final Winfield vs Larimore Chico vs Streck All PM final Winfield vs Chico Websterk149 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, blueandgold said: Seeds Frank Hammond (Perry Meridian) Dexter Larimore (Merrillville) Chico Adams (Perry Meridian) Shawn Streck (Merrillville) Greg Wagner (Fort Wayne Snider) Chad Ruggeri (Mount Vernon) Andy Schneider (Mount Vernon) Bubba Dickerson (New Castle) Donte Winfield (Perry Meridian) Wesley Bernard (Cathedral) Adam Chalfant (Winchester) Evan Ellis (Eastern - Greentown) Eli Pokorney (Chesterton) Christopher Kasten (Winamac) Abraham Hall (Bremen) Ross Janney (Yorktown) First Round Pairings #1 Frank Hammond (Perry Meridian) vs. #16 Ross Janney (Yorktown) #2 Dexter Larimore (Merrillville) vs. #15 Abraham Hall (Bremen) #3 Chico Adams (Perry Meridian) vs. #14 Christopher Kasten (Winamac) #4 Shawn Streck (Merrillville) vs. #13 Eli Pokorney (Chesterton) #5 Greg Wagner (FW Snider) vs. #12 Evan Ellis (Eastern - Greentown) #6 Chad Ruggeri (Mount Vernon) vs. #11 Adam Chalfant (Winchester) #7 Andy Schneider (Mount Vernon) vs. #10 Wesley Bernard (Cathedral) #8 Bubba Dickerson (New Castle) vs. #9 Donte Winfield (Perry Meridian) Quarterfinal Predictions #1 Frank Hammond (Perry Meridian) vs. #9 Donte Winfield (Perry Meridian) #2 Dexter Larimore (Merrillville) vs. #10 Wesley Bernard (Cathedral) #3 Chico Adams (Perry Meridian) vs. #6 Chad Ruggeri (Mount Vernon) #4 Shawn Streck (Merrillville) vs. #5 Greg Wagner (FW Snider) Not that it matters but, Why is Kasten so low in seed? He beat Larimore in the finals and was a 2x champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Websterk149 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, mikemorgan said: Semi final Winfield vs Larimore Chico vs Streck All PM final Winfield vs Chico Donte gets revenge for Chico?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Websterk149 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 No one's stopping the Chico Train here. Line em all up if you want. What is your criteria based on for seeds though? Senior year Donte would be hard to beat, top 10 nationally ranked and only loss off-season and regular season was to Adam Coon (idk if you know him) 1-0 at Fargo. No disrespect to Frank but Streck, Wesley, Donte, Eli were all on national scene doing well also. Chico still destroys them all though so it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted December 22, 2022 Author Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, Websterk149 said: No one's stopping the Chico Train here. Line em all up if you want. What is your criteria based on for seeds though? Senior year Donte would be hard to beat, top 10 nationally ranked and only loss off-season and regular season was to Adam Coon (idk if you know him) 1-0 at Fargo. No disrespect to Frank but Streck, Wesley, Donte, Eli were all on national scene doing well also. Chico still destroys them all though so it doesn't matter. Donte lost to Wesley twice that year at Team State and at Semi-State. He lost to Coon 1-0, 1-0 in the 2012 Fargo finals the previous summer. While I would agree Donte is hard to beat, Chico went 108-0 over his last two seasons and beat Adam Chalfant along the way. So, I’m thinking Chico wins the whole thing. I gave Frank the #1 because the consensus decision is that he’s the best Heavyweight in our school’s history and Chico himself said the two best heavyweights ahead of him are Frank and Dexter. Wesley is a Perry Meridian guy as well having wrestled from youth to 8th Grade, and moved to Cathedral as a freshman. So, while his high school accolades are as a part of Cathedral, we all do consider him part of our lineage. He and Donte are always neck and neck, and since Donte won the title before Wes, he took the higher spot. Kasten should be higher, probably swap him with Bubba first, then swap him again with Ruggeri, and then again with Dexter. I’m going to re-draw the whole thing. navy80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Websterk149 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, blueandgold said: Donte lost to Wesley twice that year at Team State and at Semi-State. He lost to Coon 1-0, 1-0 in the 2012 Fargo finals the previous summer. While I would agree Donte is hard to beat, Chico went 108-0 over his last two seasons and beat Adam Chalfant along the way. So, I’m thinking Chico wins the whole thing. I gave Frank the #1 because the consensus decision is that he’s the best Heavyweight in our school’s history and Chico himself said the two best heavyweights ahead of him are Frank and Dexter. Wesley is a Perry Meridian guy as well having wrestled from youth to 8th Grade, and moved to Cathedral as a freshman. So, while his high school accolades are as a part of Cathedral, we all do consider him part of our lineage. He and Donte are always neck and neck, and since Donte won the title before Wes, he took the higher spot. Kasten should be higher, probably swap him with Bubba first, then swap him again with Ruggeri, and then again with Dexter. I’m going to re-draw the whole thing. It impresses me that Chico even admitted that there were 2 guys better than him LOL. But I stand corrected bout Donte, you are right. I like the seeds how they are for most part, the Hammond one is my only question just because I don't know his accolades but I think Chico beats Frank (no disrespect Mr. Hammond). I was thinking that Perry biasy played bigger part in seeds criteria lol. blueandgold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 This guy has something to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookie78 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 No Reeve Muncie or Marshall Fishback? What a shame. Coplen187 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, rookie78 said: No Reeve Muncie or Marshall Fishback? What a shame. He's anti-Fort Wayne obviously. It would be an easy final if he included those two. rookie78 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookie78 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 I remember watching Chalfant at Semi-State, dude was a monster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombTheHair76 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Chad Ruggeri pinned Dexter in 1:10. I know it was a sophomore Dexter but just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombTheHair76 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, rookie78 said: I remember watching Chalfant at Semi-State, dude was a monster! I was on the floor at state next to him his first year ar state when he was undersized and then seeing him walk passed again the next year. HOLY CRAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavierHandz Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Wild how the Fort Wayne semi state guys on the list ended there careers the top 2 on the list. FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Who did this seeding? The team state selection committee?! donniebaker, Y2CJ41 and CoachDuke2.0 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCard Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 My argument will always be for Shawn. Of course there is some bias in this argument but here it goes again... Freshman 40-6, losses at State to Donte(1-0) and Hemmelgarn(3-1) Sophomore 44-2, loses to Wesley by Fall, his other loss was to a guy named Gelen Robinson that year. Junior 46-0, Pins everyone at State tournament Senior 45-0, 3 Falls in State Tournamnet Shawn was 135-2 between his Sophomore and Senior seasons. 8 losses in his career, 3 of them coming from eventual State Champs. 7 Falls in his last two State Tournaments. No one came close to him his last two years. When talking about the best to ever do it at the weight class, he has to be considered in the conversation. navy80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Sorry, I just saw this. Schneider Mt. Vernon Posey all day every day. He didn't wrestle outside of the season because he was too busy farming, so he didn't have a lot of opportunities to wrestle out of state. He would mop the whole bracket. Haters gonna hate but it's true. rmckinney88, blueandgold and TripleB 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachM Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 I'll take Wagner all day in this bracket, 3xAA at Michigan rdrodd1, Regionrat1, RAJR and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, CoachM said: I'll take Wagner all day in this bracket, 3xAA at Michigan This bracket sleeping way too much on Wagner and Chalfant, as far as I know the only D-1 AAs in this bracket. Websterk149 and RAJR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coplen187 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 7 hours ago, Ahawkeye said: Sorry, I just saw this. Schneider Mt. Vernon Posey all day every day. He didn't wrestle outside of the season because he was too busy farming, so he didn't have a lot of opportunities to wrestle out of state. He would mop the whole bracket. Haters gonna hate but it's true. Unfortunate for Damon Hummel that after his senior year they'd make a 215 lb weight class. I always heard that Schneider was a beast. Ahawkeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) #1 Frank Hammond '92 (Perry Meridian) vs. #8 Wesley Bernard (Cathedral) #2 Chico Adams '08 (Perry Meridian) vs. #7 Donte Winfield '13 (Perry Meridian) #3 Shawn Streck '16 (Merrillville) vs. #11 Greg Wagner (Fort Wayne Snider) #4 Christopher Kasten '05 (Winamac) vs. #5 Dexter Larimore '06 (Merrillville) #8 Wesley Bernard (7-3-1) over #1 Frank Hammond (Hammond seeded too high) #5 Dexter Larimore (2-2-1) over #4 Kristopher Kasten (Q-3-1-1) (Dexter lost to Kasten as a junior when Kasten was a senior. Senior year versus senior year, Dexter takes it) #2 Chico Adams (8-1-1) over #7 Donte Winfield (Donte was Q and 1. Chico just too much. #3 Shawn Streck (7-3-1-1) over #11 Greg Wagner (Wagner was 'only' a 2-1) #5 Dexter Larimore over #8 Wesley Bernard #3 Shawn Streck over #2 Kristopher Kasten #3 Shawn Streck over #5 Dexter Larimore Edited December 24, 2022 by navy80 blueandgold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) Bubba was only 17 and we didn't even get to see him healthy, or training like he should've.. It's unreal how good he was and knowing what I know, trying not to be a Debbie downer on a public forum.. Breaks my heart knowing that not only did he pass away in a terrible fashion, but all the wasted talent and hearts he broke in doing so, being a reminder how precious life is, especially when 1 mistake can be 1 that you never come back from... Bubba was his own worst enemy and that's the reason he's no longer with us as are most kids that e bone head mistakes. Def was tough on the wrestling family/town .. Only to lose another really member, leaving the family and town gutted 8 years later losing my other cousin to similar circumstances.. The bubba that pinned his way through state finals, a week after having a fever of 102, cutting to make the HW LIMIT and being a man child, it boggles my mind that he did the extraordinary things he did under The circumstances.. He was def loved and cared for by our big Wrestling family, and this isn't a pity party excuse post, this is to put into perspective how dominant he was, and was not living right. Wish I could find that 95 state finals, Peck has it some where, I'm going to go do some tree work for him within the next few weeks and will try and see if we can find it, amomg his world class Vhs/DVD wrestling collection.. Anybody that is familiar with Bub, regardless where they're from, will vouch he was a Treat to watch, and not like many other big men. Edited December 26, 2022 by FCFIGHTER170 navy80, Websterk149 and blueandgold 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Jr Year Streck vs Jr Bubba would've been fireworks, and I'm telling y'all, it wouldn't be like most think it would, bubba hit dump series and wrestled like a 160 also, so Streck and him would've both faced their most athletic tests up to then.. Bubba throws Streck like Samuels did, then we might see the purple hulk lose to the green hulk lol but in all seriousness, Streck could've beaten him too, just depends who's day it was, bubba was an enigma and from what my OGs tell me, I was only 10 when he passed away, he was unlike anything they'd ever seen. XCard and blueandgold 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Larimore would have wipped the mat most of these guys. He was a freak of nature - one the senior national tournament. ( WHEN IT WAS A TOUGH ONE) FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 4 hours ago, regionrat1 said: Larimore would have wipped the mat most of these guys. He was a freak of nature - one the senior national tournament. ( WHEN IT WAS A TOUGH ONE) Was a monster for sure, and a stud footballer that went on to have a solid NFL career as well!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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