blueandgold Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) Even though it looks like Carroll may not be wrestling this season, he’s still listed at #1 on Flo, and with Leighton Jones and Paul Clark joining the rankings at #16 and #17 respectively, this is the first time since 2015 Heavyweight in Indiana has three nationally-ranked wrestlers. Where does it rank among the best years, though? Hard to say, but I cannot put it above 2013 or 2014. 2013 had three nationally-ranked wrestlers National #9/State #1 Donte Winfield of Perry Meridian | Fargo Junior Men’s Freestyle Runner-Up at 285 lbs., 2012 IHSAA State Qualifier at 285 lbs., 2013 IHSAA State Champion at 285 lbs. National #13/State #2 Wesley Bernard of Cathedral | 2011 Fargo Cadet Men’s Freestyle 5th at 285 lbs., 2011 Fargo Cadet Greco-Roman 8th at 285 lbs., 2012 IHSAA State 7th at 285 lbs., 2013 IHSAA State 3rd at 285 lbs. National #17/State #3 Eric Hemmelgarn of Jay County | 2012 IHSAA State 3rd at 285 lbs., 2013 IHSAA State 5th at 285 lbs. 2014 had four nationally-ranked wrestlers National #7/State #1 Wesley Bernard of Cathedral | 2013 Fargo Junior Men’s Freestyle 4th at 285 lbs., 2014 IHSAA State Champion at 285 lbs. National #13/State #3 Shawn Streck of Merrillville | 2013 Cadet Men’s Freestyle 3rd at 285 lbs., 2013 Cadet Greco-Roman 4th at 285 lbs., 2013 IHSAA State 7th at 285 lbs., 2014 IHSAA State 3rd at 285 lbs. National #15/State #4 Norman Oglesby of Ben Davis | 2013 IHSAA State Qualifier at 285 lbs., 2014 IHSAA State Runner-Up at 285 lbs. National #17/State #2 Eric Hemmelgarn of Jay County | 2014 IHSAA State 4th at 285 lbs. 2014 also had Fargo Greco-Roman All-American and IU commit Gavan Jolley-Little 2015 had three nationally-ranked wrestlers National #9/State #1 Shawn Streck of Merrillville | 2015 IHSAA State Champion of 285 lbs. National #17/State #2 Norman Oglesby of Ben Davis | 2015 IHSAA State 3rd at 285 lbs. National #19/State #3 Nathon Trawick of Richmond | 2015 IHSAA State Runner-Up at 285 lbs. Where does 2023 (Carroll included) stack up against these classes? Edited December 16, 2022 by blueandgold MUSKEEWRESTLER, Misty Kendrex, Jayruss and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Not HWT but we had a few years of multiple 220 (or whatever weight class it was at a certain year) that were nationally ranked. Sadly most of the time they were just too much of a “tweener” to make it to far at the college level. blueandgold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 3 hours ago, MattM said: Not HWT but we had a few years of multiple 220 (or whatever weight class it was at a certain year) that were nationally ranked. Sadly most of the time they were just too much of a “tweener” to make it to far at the college level. It was 220. On two separate occasions in 2014 and 2016, we had four nationally-ranked wrestlers in the weight with the highest being #4 Kobe Woods in 2016. MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Wrestlers I think could compete with or beat CC. -Mason Parris -Shawn Streck -Dexter Larimore -Chico Adams -Adam Chalfant -Evan Ellis -Gunnar Larson -Eli Pokorney -Kobe Woods Hirsej01 and MUSKEEWRESTLER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformedPoster Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Guys like Matt Wills, Demetrius Jackson and Andy Schneider would be very successful against any group of heavy's. Don't forget Chad Ruggieri who was launching guys all over the place GenHeavyHandz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombTheHair76 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 25 minutes ago, navy80 said: Wrestlers I think could compete with or beat CC. -Mason Parris -Shawn Streck -Dexter Larimore -Chico Adams -Adam Chalfant -Evan Ellis -Gunnar Larson -Eli Pokorney -Kobe Woods I’d throw in Greg Wagner XxFIST2FACExX and GenHeavyHandz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombTheHair76 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, ReformedPoster said: Guys like Matt Wills, Demetrius Jackson and Andy Schneider would be very successful against any group of heavy's. Don't forget Chad Ruggieri who was launching guys all over the place Chad was the most exciting wrestler I’ve ever seen at state. Everyone knew what was coming they just couldn’t stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody LeCount Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Donte Winfield... my teammate at Perry and was a state champion. Also was a Fargo Runner up and lost to Adam Coon 1-0 in the finals. Ben LeCount 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket21 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 All of these dudes being named were STUDS. I remember my Freshman year of HS, I watched Norman Oglesby v Wesley Bernard for the HWT finals match and was in awe of the size of these humans. Also remember seeing Norman's letterman jacket having patches hanging off of the back because there wasn't enough room for them all. #BringBackTheTights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paycheck141 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Nathan Cleveland From Lowell (2010) and Gelen Robinson (2014) from Lake Central should definitely be on the list both I think were ranked nationally and State champions at 215 and 220 navy80 and MUSKEEWRESTLER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombTheHair76 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I think the best matchup I can think of is him vs Jake O Brian. Probably the most dominate big man career I can think of in Indiana. XxFIST2FACExX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I remember some decent HWTs back in the day! rdrodd1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformedPoster Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I remember watching Matt Wills in '91. he was a grown ass man. Launched Frank Hammond from Perry Meridian right off the bat. Hammond managed to get off his back only to be cradled for the pin in about a minute. Wills ended up winning Sr nationals that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Bubba Dickerson vs Ruggeri would've been bananas, I'd take Bubba in a wild 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastofDaEASTHWT Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Lawrence North Back in the day had some big boys that should be on this list. Brad Stephens Tony Talley Nick Hardwick (NFL) Josh Locke Mo Gunn Robert Samuels FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, BeastofDaEASTHWT said: Lawrence North Back in the day had some big boys that should be on this list. Brad Stephens Tony Talley Nick Hardwick (NFL) Josh Locke Mo Gunn Robert Samuels If it comes down to schools that produce the best heavyweights (and 215/220s), it’s between Merrillville and Perry Meridian, but based on the last decade, Brownsburg and Cathedral have a few too. Off the top of my head… Brownsburg Lawson Aiken Rickie Clark Leighton Jones Dorian Keys Isaac McCormick Cathedral Wes Bernard* Andy Guhl Ryan Guhl Matt Hasbrook Levi Kinney Jacob Obst Holden Parsons *= Perry Meridian wrestler Y-8th Grade Merrillville Anthony Atria Drew Bailey Dexter Larimore Michael Nickson Corderro Pollard Jake Salas Theodore Sparks Dan Spencer Gable Steveson* Brandon Streck Jason Streck Shawn Streck James Travis *= Grew up in the program Perry Meridian Chico Adams Brian Burchfield Logan Cooper Dave Feeney Frank Hammond Sam Jones Jeff McClure Steve Padgett Zac Pierson Chris Ridle Donte Winfield Edited December 18, 2022 by blueandgold MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformedPoster Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/17/2022 at 10:20 PM, blueandgold said: If it comes down to schools that produce the best heavyweights (and 215/220s), it’s between Merrillville and Perry Meridian, but based on the last decade, Brownsburg and Cathedral have a few too. Off the top of my head… Brownsburg Lawson Aiken Rickie Clark Leighton Jones Dorian Keys Isaac McCormick Cathedral Wes Bernard* Andy Guhl Ryan Guhl Matt Hasbrook Levi Kinney Jacob Obst Holden Parsons *= Perry Meridian wrestler Y-8th Grade Merrillville Anthony Atria Drew Bailey Dexter Larimore Michael Nickson Corderro Pollard Jake Salas Theodore Sparks Dan Spencer Gable Steveson* Brandon Streck Jason Streck Shawn Streck James Travis *= Grew up in the program Perry Meridian Chico Adams Brian Burchfield Logan Cooper Dave Feeney Frank Hammond Sam Jones Jeff McClure Steve Padgett Zac Pierson Chris Ridle Donte Winfield Merrillville cannot claim Gable Steveson. No way, no how. MUSKEEWRESTLER and blueandgold 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ReformedPoster said: Merrillville cannot claim Gable Steveson. No way, no how. That is perfectly fine with me. Just makes it better for the Perry Meridian side in the end lol ReformedPoster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Summar Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 10 hours ago, blueandgold said: That is perfectly fine with me. Just makes it better for the Perry Meridian side in the end lol You can add Mike Mikesell and Mark Hidalgo to Merrillville oldfat119 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForemanMA Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Can’t believe no one has said Jeff Pease. First guy to win double Fargo same year in Greco and freestyle. The guy has 5 stop signs. Div 2 national runner up. rdrodd1, FCFIGHTER170, oldfat119 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdrodd1 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 On 12/17/2022 at 11:20 PM, blueandgold said: If it comes down to schools that produce the best heavyweights (and 215/220s), it’s between Merrillville and Perry Meridian, but based on the last decade, Brownsburg and Cathedral have a few too. Off the top of my head… Brownsburg Lawson Aiken Rickie Clark Leighton Jones Dorian Keys Isaac McCormick Cathedral Wes Bernard* Andy Guhl Ryan Guhl Matt Hasbrook Levi Kinney Jacob Obst Holden Parsons *= Perry Meridian wrestler Y-8th Grade Merrillville Anthony Atria Drew Bailey Dexter Larimore Michael Nickson Corderro Pollard Jake Salas Theodore Sparks Dan Spencer Gable Steveson* Brandon Streck Jason Streck Shawn Streck James Travis *= Grew up in the program Perry Meridian Chico Adams Brian Burchfield Logan Cooper Dave Feeney Frank Hammond Sam Jones Jeff McClure Steve Padgett Zac Pierson Chris Ridle Donte Winfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdrodd1 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Don't forget Nate Richey of BBurg. Worden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) If we are talking all time then Pete Lee from Muncie Central has to be mentioned Edited December 21, 2022 by FCFIGHTER170 MUSKEEWRESTLER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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