Novice Bat Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Will the rankings be up on the site before the start of the tournaments, or sometime today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpunkyPotato Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Well, since it is the start of the season and they are PREseason rankings, it should only be fair that they shall be released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruins2013 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) They are A little late this year Edited November 21, 2015 by Bruins2013 sudden death 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I don't believe we release them until the first set of rankings after a few tournaments are in the books to get weights and such right. You can always purchase the magazine to get the preseason magazines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruins2013 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Makes sense thanks .....I already got the magazine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruins2013 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I saw the state and new castle semi state rankings were up. when will the other semi states be up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raven150 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Dru Berkebile isn't ranked at either 152 or 160. He's a stud and couldn't believe he was omitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I believe Mr Berkebile is ranked #1 in the JV state rankings at 152. Look for him in 2016/17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 He's is currently ineligible for transfering to frankton. We had him ranked in the preseason mag but the Ihsaa ruled against him for now so we took him out. Seth rench is franktons 152 he was also a Yorktown guy he will do well for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamDad Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Dru Berkebile isn't ranked at either 152 or 160. He's a stud and couldn't believe he was omitted. He's ineligable due to the Hotel Yorktown rule where you can check in, but can not check out. H.Kai-man, Bruins2013, LetsWrastle and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Po-Tweet Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) He's ineligable due to the Hotel Yorktown rule where you can check in, but can not check out. I have know no clue on how eligibility works for IN high school sports.-- Does he live in Yorktown's school district and switched schools or does he live in Frankton's district? Is this anything like NCAA rules where Yorktown could release him and he would keep his eligibility? Edited November 30, 2015 by Po-Tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 He has lived in Frankton's district basically forever which includes last year while he attended Yorktown. Yorktown aka Mr. and Mrs. McCormick blocked the transfer. Berkebile appealed to the IHSAA, but that was denied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 He has lived in Frankton's district basically forever which includes last year while he attended Yorktown. Yorktown aka Mr. and Mrs. McCormick blocked the transfer. Berkebile appealed to the IHSAA, but that was denied. That's rough. After the appeal, I don't think you have anymore options. Looks like it will be a long season for Berkebile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 From what I have been told there is one more potential avenue to pursue in order to gain eligibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 So does that make Berkebile, Heistand to Carmel and now Seth Rench is another Yorktown wrestler that all left in the same year? Can they not make the lineup at Yorktown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Rench did not wrestle last year, so he has already sat out a year and is eligible now. I really doubt that they couldn't find a spot for Berkebile or the Hiestands in their lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Po-Tweet Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 He has lived in Frankton's district basically forever which includes last year while he attended Yorktown. Yorktown aka Mr. and Mrs. McCormick blocked the transfer. Berkebile appealed to the IHSAA, but that was denied. So Yorktown accepted him as a transfer last year, but are now blocking blocking his transfer back to his home district? I kind of find that hard to believe. All of the people I know involved in youth/high school wrestling are ultimately about the Kids first and promoting the sport second. I just find it hard to believe that any IN High School coach/program would blatantly display such a double standard of "accepting transfer's in and fighting transfers out". I suspect (hope) it has more to do with some stupid IHSAA rule than Yorktown just being mean spirited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 You are suspecting incorrectly, I have talked to quite a few people involved in this situation at length. Yorktown has blocked the transfers of both Dru Berkebile and Remo Hiestand and both are ineligible this year. Yorktown and Mr. and Mrs. McCormick could have easily not challenged the transfers and each individual would have been eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAJR Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) I don't see how this helps anybody, situation or the sport and too bad the IHSAA can't see that. Course nothing should surprise me after seeing them come out of the stands several years ago at the NC semi-state and overrule the referees. How'd you like to be an excited JV wrestler only to see them next in your bracket? (Assuming they are eligible at all). Upon further review, apparently Berkibile has NO eligibility!!! This is not right and I am stunned... Edited November 30, 2015 by RAJR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach McCormick Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 There certainly is much more to these IHSAA cases than what meets the eye. The rules being followed are the IHSAA's rules (not Yorktown's rules). The IHSAA held hearings where the affected parties could explain their situation and present their cases in a personal, face to face setting. The IHSAA appointed "hearing committee" made their ruling on these cases. Yorktown did not make the final ruling on these cases. It certainly is easy to pass judgement from afar. I can already see, and read, numerous errors, omissions, and false information that is being passed along for public judgment. As most people are aware, there are always two sides to every story. MD92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAJR Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) There certainly is much more to these IHSAA cases than what meets the eye. The rules being followed are the IHSAA's rules (not Yorktown's rules). The IHSAA held hearings where the affected parties could explain their situation and present their cases in a personal, face to face setting. The IHSAA appointed "hearing committee" made their ruling on these cases. Yorktown did not make the final ruling on these cases. It certainly is easy to pass judgement from afar. I can already see, and read, numerous errors, omissions, and false information that is being passed along for public judgment. As most people are aware, there are always two sides to every story. Yes there is much more to the story. Those who follow wrestling in central and east central Indiana know the history. I always thought there were three sides to a story, yours, theirs, and the right one. Question is why Yorktown wouldn't sign off for a kid going to the school district he always lived in? Especially considering all the transfers and "move ins" Yorktown has had over the years. And yes, I realize it's a rhetorical question. Edited November 30, 2015 by RAJR munges 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Yorktown could have released the kids and nothing would have went to the IHSAA. Instead Yorktown decided to fight the transfers and so far has won. This is coming from a program that willingly accepted a mid-season transfer of a state qualifier just a few short years ago. Along with a future state runner-up that tried to transfer to Yorktown, but had to sit out a year. Or the program that has had two serious IHSAA violations over the past two years. Even better is I have heard a coach utter phrases like "I think kids should be able to go to whatever school they want without penalty, if they think it's in their best interest." PURDUEdad and RAJR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Po-Tweet Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 There certainly is much more to these IHSAA cases than what meets the eye. The rules being followed are the IHSAA's rules (not Yorktown's rules). The IHSAA held hearings where the affected parties could explain their situation and present their cases in a personal, face to face setting. The IHSAA appointed "hearing committee" made their ruling on these cases. Yorktown did not make the final ruling on these cases. It certainly is easy to pass judgement from afar. I can already see, and read, numerous errors, omissions, and false information that is being passed along for public judgment. As most people are aware, there are always two sides to every story. Thanks for weighing in coach. As I stated earlier I suspected this issue was with the IHSAA and the IHSAA rules were up held. Just to clarify did Yorktown or any associated with the program initiate the IHSAA involvement? Or more importantly, is there anything Yorktown could do or could have done to permit the eligibility of these kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRCoach Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Jackson, Carroll, Vanhorn, Phillips, Baysinger, Walker, Laughlin, Rench These were all legit move ins for Yorktown right(?) because there is no way with such high ethics that Yorktown would let these kids come just for wrestling purposes. Very ironic that they would block the Hiestands when it was the Hiestands who let Vanhorn live with them while wrestling for Yorktown. I guess when you move mid-semester you are allowed to move in with another wrestling family and claim them as your own. That's not breaking any IHSAA rules though is it?????????? Blocking kids for your own Pride. Quality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800lbs Gorilla Mama Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 There certainly is much more to these IHSAA cases than what meets the eye. The rules being followed are the IHSAA's rules (not Yorktown's rules). The IHSAA held hearings where the affected parties could explain their situation and present their cases in a personal, face to face setting. The IHSAA appointed "hearing committee" made their ruling on these cases. Yorktown did not make the final ruling on these cases. It certainly is easy to pass judgement from afar. I can already see, and read, numerous errors, omissions, and false information that is being passed along for public judgment. As most people are aware, there are always two sides to every story. Did Yorktown release them? Yes or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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