TripleB Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I'm big fans of both and I think it's a shame so much is being wasted on this topic. Neither wrestler has anything to win from this. Why the focus on Sliga and his shortcomings? Has Robinson never lost any matches he was't supposed to? If I remember correctly had it not been for Jarred Boehm and Coach Thompson at Heritage Hills, Robinson wouldn't have been a third placer last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfangms Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I'm big fans of both and I think it's a shame so much is being wasted on this topic. Neither wrestler has anything to win from this. Why the focus on Sliga and his shortcomings? Has Robinson never lost any matches he was't supposed to? If I remember correctly had it not been for Jarred Boehm and Coach Thompson at Heritage Hills, Robinson wouldn't have been a third placer last year. I agree that neither has a thing to gain and I've said it on an earlier post, we'll never know who'd win because they're never going to wrestle. As for the second part of your post, because those two gentlemen had class and did the right thing, the better wrestler moved on and won his 3rd place medal. I don't get the point of this second paragraph at all, he won that match and I'm pretty sure anyone watching that match could see where it was heading after Gelen took him down in the first 20 seconds of that match. That young man and his coaches are aces in my eyes because they did the right thing and showed true sportsmanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I don't get half of the attacks on Sliga either but they are being made.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Sorry to say Gelens loses don't compare to who beat sliga.Sliga lost to Jones Atwood Stevenson.The are on another level the Gollegos Kral and whoever else beat Gelen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Sorry ttto say Gelens loses don't compare to whp beat sligaSliga lost to Jones Atwood Stevenson.Tthe are on another level theGollegos Kral and whoever else beat Gelen. English Please . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 We need our resident wrestlingfan182 translator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Sorry ttto say Gelens loses don't compare to whp beat sligaSliga lost to Jones Atwood Stevenson.Tthe are on another level theGollegos Kral and whoever else beat Gelen. It saddens me to proclaim Gelens defeats do not equate to whomever thwarted Sliga. Sliga was trounced by Jones, Atwood, and Stevenson. Those gentleman are vastly superior in comparison to Gallegos, Kral, and whichever other young lad bested our fair Gelen. Its not exact but im not fluent...can get through a simple conversation though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash513 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I don't get half of the attacks on Sliga either but they are being made.... I don't see a lot (if any) Sliga attacks. I think most give him credit for being an outstanding wrestler. To say he is not an all time indiana great is not an attack, it is an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 It saddens me to proclaim Gelens defeats do not equate to whomever thwarted Sliga. Sliga was trounced by Jones, Atwood, and Stevenson. Those gentleman are vastly superior in comparison to Gallegos, Kral, and whichever other young lad bested our fair Gelen. Its not exact but im not fluent...can get through a simple conversation though Admirable effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Sorry this touch screen screws me up when I'm in a hurry sorry to confuse you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benni hanna 79 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I'm big fans of both and I think it's a shame so much is being wasted on this topic. Neither wrestler has anything to win from this. Why the focus on Sliga and his shortcomings? Has Robinson never lost any matches he was't supposed to? If I remember correctly had it not been for Jarred Boehm and Coach Thompson at Heritage Hills, Robinson wouldn't have been a third placer last year. What exactly went down at that match? Never saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash513 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 What exactly went down at that match? Never saw it. I believe it was an illegal slam where the kid could not continue. The wrestler and his coaches Inj Def rather than take a fft win. I was close... http://indianamat.com/messageboard/index.php/topic,21411.0.html Check here for the details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I am a Sliga fan, My son wrestled him I think 5 times lost every time. Mitch beat him fair and square, after match befriended him. He is a class act, in his wrestling skills and personality. He is one of the best if not the best take down artists I have seen, in high school or college. Every one looses, a winner pulls up his boot straps and wrestles again. I would of rather wrestle and loose than play basketball. (opps sorry). I have never seen Gelen, but he sounds fantastic by all the posts. Good luck to both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianmorg Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 @benni hanna What exactly went down at that match? Never saw it. Gelen was called for an illegal slam, that ended up hurting jarred to where he was unable to wrestle. Him and his coaches made the noble decision to take an inj def and let gelen advance, knowing he might not be able to compete anymore and that gelen did not forcefully slam him on purpose. Both Jarred and his coaches came up to gelen and us coaches after the match and shook our hands and said it wouldnt be right to take the fft. By far the best example of sportsmanship I have ever witnessed and jarred and his coaches deserve the upmost respect.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benni hanna 79 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 That was a solid move. It's nice to see some people not trying to scheme their way to the top. I've seen the same thing happen and the kid takes the Forfeit and then sprints up the bleachers to talk to his parents and wrestles the next match. Mr. Boehm does deserve a lot of respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Sorry this touch screen screws me up when I'm in a hurry sorry to confuse you Does your touch screen have no (.) or (,)? Both would help in making your posts make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchas Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Can somone please make this post on a make believe match go away! This is the biggest week of the year and this post keeps going to the top of my page. Let me finish this. Both of these guys would win the made up match. It is made up. So there is no reason they both could not win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash513 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Can somone please make this post on a make believe match go away! This is the biggest week of the year and this post keeps going to the top of my page. Let me finish this. Both of these guys would win the made up match. It is made up. So there is no reason they both could not win. You could just make believe that this topic does not exist, and stop opening it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchas Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 You could just make believe that this topic does not exist, and stop opening it. I can't. New tag. Must open. Must open. Must see if something is interesting. Must stop. Please Stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bob 77 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Did anyone watch the Stevenson/Goldman match? I have a feeling no one watched this match. Not a whole lot happened. I don't understand how that this kid is thought of as great when the state title match that year was pretty boring. Some of the qualifiers from that bracket didn't even qualify the next year. Mitch isn't on this whole other level. And earlier someone was comparing a 189 and 215 from years ago. Yes many 189s and 215s wrestled and you pull 1 example from a time when the 215 class may have had a weak year? One example. Fantastic Do you have a clue of what you speak of, O'Brien was a 3X State Champ and your insinuating he won state as a 3X champ on a weak weight class. Would that have been his sophomore, junior, or his senior year?, lol Get a clue when you make a statement like that benni.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benni hanna 79 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Not insinuating just implying big one. Perhaps it was a weak weight class all three years? I mean the 215 weight class wasn't even added until the mid 90's so the majority of the kids probably just didn't cut the weight to 89 because they would've been beaten. Perhaps O'Brien himself could've made 89. All things that should be taken into consideration. Just as how Gelen can barely make the 222 mark now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 While Jake dominated215 PMhad a pretty good 2x189lbr so it didn't matter what weight someone else went they was getting beat if anyone went 89 or 215 both were studs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benni hanna 79 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 itnot watatall wat i ment whe i say day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Do you have a clue of what you speak of, O'Brien was a 3X State Champ and your insinuating he won state as a 3X champ on a weak weight class. Would that have been his sophomore, junior, or his senior year?, lol Get a clue when you make a statement like that benni.... I think Nate Moore got 5th 1st and 1st pretty good.I also believe Jackson Bratcher was in that weight and lost to Sliga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bob 77 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 itnot watatall wat i ment whe i say day [/quote\) Apparently you have no clue the caliber of wrestler O'Brien was considering he was a 3X state champ, and the only person I think that beat him in those 3 years as a state champ was a 2X state champ ata weight class lower named Nate Moore! To insinuate Jake was mediocre in a weak weight class is insulting to anyone who knows quality wrestlers from when 215lbs was a weight class. I have never heard anyone refer to any of O'Brien's championships were due to a weak weight class, nor poo poo the fact that it was pretty damn impressive that Nate Moore at 189lbs was the best 189lbs and 220lbs in the state in both his and O'Brien's junior and senior year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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