Y2CJ41 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 http://www.indianamat.com/wp-content/uploads/alsmith2010.pdf Wrestling for the Al Smith will be Wednesday and Thursday December 29 and 30th. Note that there will NOT be any weight allowance for the first day of competition. Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Spires Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 My predictions for the finals; 103 ? Nathan Boston vs. Santo Marciano 112 ? Jarred Brooks vs. Danny Hamm 119 ? Kyle Ayersman vs. Robert Boston 125 ? Layten Binion vs. Nick Crume 130 ? Travis Barroquillo vs. Collin Crume 135 ? Alex Gregory vs. Kenny Hughes 140 ? Bradley Wartman vs. Matt Rattay 145 ? Dantrell Goodman vs. Grant Anglemeyer 152 ? Cam Matteson vs. Spencer Hays 160 ? Anthony Quiroz vs. Sean Mappes 171 ? Drake Stein vs. Ryley Hankenson 189 ? Brandon Dillenback vs. Kourtney Berry 215 ? Travis Thatcher vs. Taylor Grubb 285 ? Daniel Meyer vs. Eric Thigpen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Some pretty rough draws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 wow, looking at the top 5 teams # of seeds Mishawaka-8 Penn-8 Merrillville-7 Bellmont-6 LN-6 when you look at the quality of seeds though, Penn and Bellmont look very close to Mishawaka This could turn out to be a race where all five of these teams have a shot at either 1st or 2nd coming into day two and the semifinal round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsa Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Chris Katsafaros record is 15-2. I can't understand why he is not seeded 2nd. > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Chris Katsafaros record is 15-2. I can't understand why he is not seeded 2nd. > Because the 3 guys ahead of him have 1 loss total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasslar Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Anyone remember when the semis and finals started last year? I assume it will be the same this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kullerySBR Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Anyone remember when the semis and finals started last year? I assume it will be the same this year Those are always the first matches to begin with on the 2nd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Those are always the first matches to begin with on the 2nd day The semi-final matches are.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachM Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 wow, looking at the top 5 teams # of seeds Mishawaka-8 Penn-8 Merrillville-7 Bellmont-6 LN-6 Don't forget Columbus East with 7 seeded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 Brackets are updated and if you are a coach, wrestler or fan please note that wrestling will be on Wednesday and Thursday the 29th and 30th and that there will be NO weight allowance for the first day of competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naco228 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 where can we find all of the teams represented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 where can we find all of the teams represented? Merrillville Lawrence North Northwood New Prairie Lake Central Lawrence Central Elkhart Memorial Calumet Lowell Center Grove Goshen Munster Chesterton Southport South Bend Adams Hobart LaPorte Bellmont South Bend Riley Peru Rochester East Noble Penn Jasper Princeton Prairie Heights Mishawaka Michigan City Columbus East Warsaw Jimtown South Bend St. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth34 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Anyone else having trouble opening the brackets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 worked for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuneFan Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Thanks for the brackets. Happen to find 1 error that I know of on records though.. At 140 pounds Wartman is not undefeated. He lost 13 to 4 to Jason Tsirtsis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RankingsGuy Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 many of the records are incorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandpa Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 By looking at the low seeds that the Merrillville wrestlers got--Garza, Garcia, Padilla, Sandufer, Peppers, even Berry who was seeded number 2--I am willing to bet--there was no one from Merrellville at seedings meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 That's what it looks like Adam Garica a 6 seed when he placed 3rd last year ahead of Crume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior140 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Today, i see the brackets, and all i could do is laugh. I thought the Al-Smith tournamet was a elite tournamet based on records performance and previous standings based on the Al-Smith tournamet. So i here its based on kids record, who they beat what they placed at state and so forth. I guess placing high in the Al-Smith tournamet, means nothing. Just another day of wrestling. What really matter is State. Yes, that is obvious, but does it mean, when a wrestler beats all those good wrestlers on that one day and place high, and than the next year it means nothing. I guess all incoming wrestlers, must have it rough, should they not be seeded the lowest. Since placing at state is the measure used for seeding at the Al-Smith. Do good one year at the Al-Smith, or if you do not do good at Al-smith. Just finish strong and will recognize it. Where is the recognition for what is done at AL-SMITH. I consider the AL-SMITH a minnie Semi- State, but hey make sure people arrive early the second day. It looks like a lot of wrestlers will be wrestling there finals in the semi-finals. Way to go, in seeding the wrestlers i see you guys took it serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I think head to head, previous Al Smith placing and advancement in the state series are all taken into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I think head to head, previous Al Smith placing and advancement in the state series are all taken into consideration. Karl I though you and the rest of the Triumvrate were suppose to be present at the Al Smith seeding meeting to ensure everything was bracketed the right way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 28, 2010 Author Share Posted December 28, 2010 By looking at the low seeds that the Merrillville wrestlers got--Garza, Garcia, Padilla, Sandufer, Peppers, even Berry who was seeded number 2--I am willing to bet--there was no one from Merrellville at seedings meeting. Berry was seeded behind an undefeated returning state qualifier. I don't remember seeing Berry at state last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cewrestlingfan Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Today, i see the brackets, and all i could do is laugh. I thought the Al-Smith tournamet was a elite tournamet based on records performance and previous standings based on the Al-Smith tournamet. So i here its based on kids record, who they beat what they placed at state and so forth. I guess placing high in the Al-Smith tournamet, means nothing. Just another day of wrestling. What really matter is State. Yes, that is obvious, but does it mean, when a wrestler beats all those good wrestlers on that one day and place high, and than the next year it means nothing. I guess all incoming wrestlers, must have it rough, should they not be seeded the lowest. Since placing at state is the measure used for seeding at the Al-Smith. Do good one year at the Al-Smith, or if you do not do good at Al-smith. Just finish strong and will recognize it. Where is the recognition for what is done at AL-SMITH. I consider the AL-SMITH a minnie Semi- State, but hey make sure people arrive early the second day. It looks like a lot of wrestlers will be wrestling there finals in the semi-finals. Way to go, in seeding the wrestlers i see you guys took it serious. That's what it looks like Adam Garica a 6 seed when he placed 3rd last year ahead of Crume. All of the items mentioned were taken in consideration for seeding including past Al Smith placement. I think at 125, all of the top 4 seeds were returning state qualifiers and this weight class had the most discussion during the seeding meeting. I think in most seeding discussions during the meeting, state qualifiers were considered slightly higher than past Al Smith placers. Garcia is the 5th seed. Also, the Merrillville coach was not present to argue for his wrestler. Most all of the coaches at the meeting want to be fair and try to do what is right for seeding, but also they fight for their own wrestlers. That is human nature. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if coaches can make 3 and 4 hour drives to go to the seeding meeting, then a coach that only has an hour drive should be able to make it to the meeting. If they can't make it to the meeting, then they should just accept what they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior140 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I can see there was a lot of people that should have been, could have been, were not there. Could you guys at least set up a conference call. Meeting of the minds. It looks like things were run by a dictatorship. Call it damage control. Just dont see the justification. More questions, then answers, never a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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