Htfit78 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Coaches I beg you go home and teach these kids that act like wild untamed morons after they win to have some class. I understand clapping and even pointing to your fans it is an emotional time, but some of it is taunting. I will give an example from years ago so I don't single anyone out. A few years ago a senior who was an animal, beat a very young but also very good freshman(by a small margin) in the finals. Instead of just walking to the line fist pumping or clapping for his accomplishment, he decided he needed to go to the center of the mat and break dance. Now I was there and I can tell you not only did he take away from his victory by looking like a fool but it also cause people, myself included to regret chairing for such a person. So coaches and parents just please work with your young men on being adults they are almost there, you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldIndyGrappler Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 There was a time I probably would have agreed with you. But these are kids that have spent thousands of hours keeping themselves in check and totally focused. If they happen to reach the pinnacle of Indiana HS wrestling, I say let them act like fools in front of 10,000 wrestling fans. They've earned it. And it gives us something to talk about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode#31 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Coaches I beg you go home and teach these kids that act like wild untamed morons after they win to have some class. I understand clapping and even pointing to your fans it is an emotional time, but some of it is taunting. I will give an example from years ago so I don't single anyone out. A few years ago a senior who was an animal, beat a very young but also very good freshman(by a small margin) in the finals. Instead of just walking to the line fist pumping or clapping for his accomplishment, he decided he needed to go to the center of the mat and break dance. Now I was there and I can tell you not only did he take away from his victory by looking like a fool but it also cause people, myself included to regret chairing for such a person. So coaches and parents just please work with your young men on being adults they are almost there, you know! Good post. Did you see Devon Jackson after he won state in 2012? Textbook on how to win with class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtownxwrestler Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I say boo. I want every state champion to do a back flip or break dance. I guess you also get mad when football players spike the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode#31 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I say boo. I want every state champion to do a back flip or break dance. I guess you also get mad when football players spike the ball? Lol Madtown. Yes, I do. Hand it to the official, thank your blockers and get off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB145 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Had the same feeling tonight as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtownxwrestler Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Coaches I beg you go home and teach these kids that act like wild untamed morons after they win to have some class. I understand clapping and even pointing to your fans it is an emotional time, but some of it is taunting. I will give an example from years ago so I don't single anyone out. A few years ago a senior who was an animal, beat a very young but also very good freshman(by a small margin) in the finals. Instead of just walking to the line fist pumping or clapping for his accomplishment, he decided he needed to go to the center of the mat and break dance. Now I was there and I can tell you not only did he take away from his victory by looking like a fool but it also cause people, myself included to regret chairing for such a person. So coaches and parents just please work with your young men on being adults they are almost there, you know! How many state titles did you win? You have no idea how you would act. You may even flop on your back and do the cockroach. Unless you direct a taunt towards your opponent it's clean. Let them have their moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
et1 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I say let em celebrate. I am all for having class in everything you do whether it be school, work, athletics, etc. but you also gotta have fun. We take sports a little too seriously sometimes imo. It's not taunting it's showing emotion after a hard fought battle. I promise nobody is looking down on the guy the just beat 3 to 2 in overtime they are just pumped for themselves. Plus you better believe if I won a state championship I wouldda went crazy and I can't even dance. Maybe pull out a slow dance or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki27 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The Avon HWTs cartwheel was pretty sweet. I agree these kids aren't taunting their opponents, they are celebrating their accomplishment. I say let them have their moment they have earned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alliseeisgold1 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 You win a state title, you get to celebrate how you want! You deserved the right to! End of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtownxwrestler Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 the chad red post is locked but i saw someone bashing him for waving his arms after semis and getting the crowd pumped. then putting his hand to his ear and i dont remember who posted it but they said "can you hear me now" i actually believe what he was shooting for was getting the crowd to scream and him wanting it louder saying "i cant hear you" by putting his hand to his ear. i had no problem with that people want our sport to be more appealing to the outsiders that dont watch wrestling but you dont want to let it be exciting from now on the crowd isnt allowed to cheer either only golf clap lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgmotorfan Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 They also was mistaken by saying the crowd was booing Red. I was booing the ref for giving Glog a cheap 2 points at the end just to make it look close. No control No points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-ville Spectator Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I loved Red! He and the others made it even more enjoyable to watch! I loved seeing these wrestlers celebrate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickhousey Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 They also was mistaken by saying the crowd was booing Red. I was booing the ref for giving Glog a cheap 2 points at the end just to make it look close. No control No points. I highly doubt everyone was booing because of the late takedown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Gelen Robinson knows how to win with class.... Just won his second straight title and acted like it was just another day. I loved it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefthanded Headlock Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Coaches I beg you go home and teach these kids that act like wild untamed morons after they win to have some class. I understand clapping and even pointing to your fans it is an emotional time, but some of it is taunting. I will give an example from years ago so I don't single anyone out. A few years ago a senior who was an animal, beat a very young but also very good freshman(by a small margin) in the finals. Instead of just walking to the line fist pumping or clapping for his accomplishment, he decided he needed to go to the center of the mat and break dance. Now I was there and I can tell you not only did he take away from his victory by looking like a fool but it also cause people, myself included to regret chairing for such a person. So coaches and parents just please work with your young men on being adults they are almost there, you know! Reece didn't break dance when he beat Howe, he did a flip. You get to do whatever you want when you're a champion. Especially a young champion. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatChick76 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I was actually disappointed not to see more flips and dances! When you go through a grinder and win a State Championship, I think you should get at least a minute to go wild!!!! Thousands of hours of focus and you finally get to pat yourself on the back - these guys earn that celebration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB145 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 They also was mistaken by saying the crowd was booing Red. I was booing the ref for giving Glog a cheap 2 points at the end just to make it look close. No control No points. Uh no that's not it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestler_fan Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The Avon HWTs cartwheel was pretty sweet. I agree these kids aren't taunting their opponents, they are celebrating their accomplishment. I say let them have their moment they have earned it. Personally I think this was the best celebration of the night!!! It was great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigginhurts Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I'm not sure - other than Red's chest bump, which i'm sure meant no harm - that there was anything too terrible. with that being said, I love how some guys didn't really celebrate all. off the top of my head, I know Gelen Robinson didn't and I don't think Cash did...I know there were others as well. How about when Deondre won and he got slammed by his coach? that was entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 The lat drop by Hull was awesome. Hats off to Hull and Deondre for pulling that off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Htfit78 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 I don't want to argue with anyone on this site and have no plans on making arguments on how it feels to win a state championship as I have never wrestled. I am strictly a fan. However what drew me to this sport was the grit and grind of it, and it seems the more years that go by the uglier they let the celebrating get. I believe you are correct that Humphrey did a back flip after the match but all the same, a great wrestler who had just out wrestled who would be an accomplished NCAA wrestler (Howe) didn't need to had the whoopla. If wrestling is not enough to get you into the sport you need not be involved. And to comment on the football reference, if a high school football player acted the way some of those kids did this weekend they would have been penalized. And yes I did play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatParham Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I don't want to argue with anyone on this site and have no plans on making arguments on how it feels to win a state championship as I have never wrestled. I am strictly a fan. However what drew me to this sport was the grit and grind of it, and it seems the more years that go by the uglier they let the celebrating get. I believe you are correct that Humphrey did a back flip after the match but all the same, a great wrestler who had just out wrestled who would be an accomplished NCAA wrestler (Howe) didn't need to had the whoopla. If wrestling is not enough to get you into the sport you need not be involved. And to comment on the football reference, if a high school football player acted the way some of those kids did this weekend they would have been penalized. And yes I did play football. This is a well thought out post and raises some good points. As wrestlers, I think we often identify with being humble in regards to our holistic sport identity; we don't get the fame and publicity of football or other major sports. However, we take pride in this. Wrestling, training, and all that goes into it is done purely for the love of the sport. I am not saying that wrestlers cannot celebrate when they win; this is an intense, personal, and emotional sport. I have celebrated after some wins; I hope never to a level that was deemed unsportsmanlike by anyone. I think to some people celebrating could be seen as contradiction to the humility that our sport identifies with. I think there is a place for celebrating, but at some point there has to be a line drawn. As to who draws that line, that is a whole separate debate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackshirtD Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I dunno. I like a good back flip..I remember in early 90's a Northrop kid doing a series of flips all the way across the mats. I just don't think it's gloating..unless it is. I think Gelen is a great example as a human being and a winner but I don't think for 2 years now he even THOUGHT he wouldn't win the title. He was reserved as always. I like the kids who maybe it seems like an upset or they have fallen short several times and then get it..Go crazy! My favorite part is when they jump into their coaches arms..go celebrate with coach!..I will say that it seems more genuine the first time they win it and celebrate then number 2 or 3 but I don't know what it feels like. Not much of a showboater myself but I was never good enough to be one. Act like you have been there before...I never have so I don't know what that means but I like human emotion. It's a State title not a TD in any given football game..Be gracious..and go nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwilly Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I dunno. I like a good back flip..I remember in early 90's a Northrop kid doing a series of flips all the way across the mats. I just don't think it's gloating..unless it is. I think Gelen is a great example as a human being and a winner but I don't think for 2 years now he even THOUGHT he wouldn't win the title. He was reserved as always. I like the kids who maybe it seems like an upset or they have fallen short several times and then get it..Go crazy! My favorite part is when they jump into their coaches arms..go celebrate with coach!..I will say that it seems more genuine the first time they win it and celebrate then number 2 or 3 but I don't know what it feels like. Not much of a showboater myself but I was never good enough to be one. Act like you have been there before...I never have so I don't know what that means but I like human emotion. It's a State title not a TD in any given football game..Be gracious..and go nuts. Robinson had the same reaction he would if he had just went to the mailbox to get the mail..."just another day." That is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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