ALittle Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 55 minutes ago, hook and half said: Regarding the DQ/MFF in the Henderson/Haines match... It seems like there must be more to it. Had a team race been a stake, a voluntary MFF could swing a championship. It does not seem like a ref can overturn his own call, just because a coach approves of it. I thought the injured contestant was awarded the match by default? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redape Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 ECC robbery at 285 1st place match Brandon Barton, Coplen187 and buttler73 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 On the subject of Henderson/Haines. I believe you can "choose" to continue then MFF. I did not see the call, I am a MD fan/alum and feel BBerg did a very classy move. Hats off to Coach for making a tough decision. MD has been on the sour end of one of those calls in the ticket round before. Prayers for a full recovery for Haines, maybe on another level of wrestling we'll get to see these two wrestle again and both be healthy. BIGCATSontheMAT, Hokierama and Coplen187 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richyy253 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 18 minutes ago, ALittle said: I thought the injured contestant was awarded the match by default? Thats what I thought aswell. Since the last point scored was an illegal slam and the wrestler couldn’t continue. The match is awarded to the injured wrestler regardless if the coach wants to accept the win or not. Because the medical forfeit was the result of the p match I’m trying to find it in the rule book now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALittle Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 10 minutes ago, Ahawkeye said: On the subject of Henderson/Haines. I believe you can "choose" to continue then MFF. I did not see the call, I am a MD fan/alum and feel BBerg did a very classy move. Hats off to Coach for making a tough decision. MD has been on the sour end of one of those calls in the ticket round before. Prayers for a full recovery for Haines, maybe on another level of wrestling we'll get to see these two wrestle again and both be healthy. I believe this year they changed it to where there was no more consultation of tournament directors or officials if the medical staff deemed unable to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 6 minutes ago, ALittle said: I believe this year they changed it to where there was no more consultation of tournament directors or officials if the medical staff deemed unable to continue. I see, well maybe some suggestion helped the situation. Either way glad to hear Preston will have a full recovery. Coplen187 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrodyHardcastle Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, HeadLocksWinChampionships said: You have to wrestle the entire 60 seconds of overtime! Man wouldn’t have guessed that one. Just saying I thought they were out ot bounds. Obviously he should of continued to wrestle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, BrodyHardcastle said: Man wouldn’t have guessed that one. Just saying I thought they were out ot bounds. Obviously he should have continued to wrestle. That particular match they were definitely out of bounds. Mosier had both feet out and Waldon had one and a half out. BrodyHardcastle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadLocksWinChampionships Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, JayinSTL said: Not true. You only have to wrestle until someone scores. I’m jus sayin… This is true, and that is what stopped the match. JayinSTL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadLocksWinChampionships Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 31 minutes ago, Thor said: That particular match they were definitely out of bounds. Mosier had both feet out and Waldon had one and a half out. 33 minutes ago, BrodyHardcastle said: Man wouldn’t have guessed that one. Just saying I thought they were out ot bounds. Obviously he should of continued to wrestle. Takedown, or fleeing. Either way, the match is over. Pg_rated and BrodyHardcastle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrodyHardcastle Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Just now, HeadLocksWinChampionships said: Takedown, or fleeing. Either way, the match is over. HeadLocksWinChampionships, Coplen187 and CainBones 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainBones Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, BrodyHardcastle said: I saw quite a bit of fleeing, last second stallings, and takedowns to end matches today. How hard is it just to wrestle?! HeadLocksWinChampionships 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWTDAD Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 8 hours ago, captaintact said: Then why did he look so pissed walking away? Is that what really happened? You ever think maybe he was upset that his senior who wrestled the whole season on a torn ACL had a season ending injury? buttler73 and HeadLocksWinChampionships 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrodyHardcastle Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 2 minutes ago, CainBones said: I saw quite a bit of fleeing, last second stallings, and takedowns to end matches today. How hard is it just to wrestle?! Pretty hard tbh. —all of those things happen every year ain’t nothing new. Coplen187, GenHeavyHandz, CainBones and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWTDAD Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 4 hours ago, WRFan said: “Henderson’s season lives on SOLELY because of the sportsmanship of Brownsburg”? BS! Henderson was dominating Haines in that match, and a slam should’ve never been called in that situation to begin with. C’mon! That’s a ridiculous statement & an absolute insult to Henderson. Uhhh it is an absolutely true statement. His season did live on "solely" because of good sportsmanship. Had Bburg not had good sportsmanship his season would be over regardless of a questionable call or him winning the match WRFan and Aidan Sprague. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainBones Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 2 minutes ago, BrodyHardcastle said: Pretty hard tbh. —all of those things happen every year ain’t nothing new. Yes of course wrestling is difficult! I’m just saying that a lot of times it’s better to just make it seem like you’re wrestling than supermanning out of bounds or running backwards. BrodyHardcastle and HeadLocksWinChampionships 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttler73 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, Redape said: ECC robbery at 285 1st place match I just watched that match and at the end of the 3rd the ref was out of position. But man overtime call or lack of as well. ZZ TOP and Coplen187 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWTDAD Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 9 minutes ago, buttler73 said: I just watched that match and at the end of the 3rd the ref was out of position. But man overtime call or lack of as well. I watched it too. Should have been 2 Coplen187 and ZZ TOP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#watchingithappen Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 4 hours ago, BrodyHardcastle said: Kinda thought the other way tbh, besides the call on mosier in OT. Me too, but by the end of the day they had to be tired of him questioning every call! If he wants to officiate so badly, do it instead of coaching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianawrestler145 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 2 minutes ago, #watchingithappen said: Me too, but by the end of the day they had to be tired of him questioning every call! If he wants to officiate so badly, do it instead of coaching! Well unfortunately, he wouldn’t be able to officiate his kids matches. Did you ever think that if officials would get some calls correct there wouldn’t be any questioning. His job as a coach is to fight for his wrestlers, and to fight to get calls for his guys. I saw so many egregious calls today. It was embarrassing. Steve Smith, Ben LeCount and Coach Moore 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chambers Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 3 hours ago, hook and half said: Regarding the DQ/MFF in the Henderson/Haines match... It seems like there must be more to it. Had a team race been a stake, a voluntary MFF could swing a championship. It does not seem like a ref can overturn his own call, just because a coach approves of it. No overturning of the call is needed. The NFHS Wresting Casebook and Manual states : When the match is defaulted by either the coach or the wrestler, this terminates the match and no additional wrestling can take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachDuke2.0 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Beck not getting swipes at the end of the 3rd is crazy. . . ZZ TOP, BrodyHardcastle, buttler73 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttler73 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 46 minutes ago, HWTDAD said: I watched it too. Should have been 2 I agree. There could have been more swipes but wrestling moves quick and the Ref was just out of position to start any count and by the time he gets around and starts the count seems like an eternity. Having the camera to watch gave the 2 for the reversal and then counted 2 swipes at least I saw him swipe twice. But held 2 on the ground came up gave the 2 again as a reversal? So confirming his earlier call to the table? Man and then OT was another story all together. Coplen187 and ZZ TOP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 12 minutes ago, chambers said: No overturning of the call is needed. The NFHS Wresting Casebook and Manual states : When the match is defaulted by either the coach or the wrestler, this terminates the match and no additional wrestling can take place. Thank you, Chambers! I guess that settles it. Tip of the hat to B'Burg. Precious few coaches take the high road in that situation. Ahawkeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttler73 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 5 minutes ago, CoachDuke2.0 said: Beck not getting swipes at the end of the 3rd is crazy. . . The whole scenario is crazy at the end. I keep watching it. Coplen187 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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