ontherise219

Cp won elementary duals, middle school duals and won Ihswca duals and individual state. Are they recruiting at all levels? 

1 hour ago, navy80 said:

Good perspective.. I'd like to know the most D1 kids from one team. Not even D1 but the team with the most kids who wrestled in college. 

Perry Meridian has a lot of guys killing it at Marian for coach Bradley 

Are 8th graders wrestling in the event? I saw Braylon Reynolds won Indy nationals and is listed in the field 

I asked this question last week 

mauer Ohio state 

coughlin indiana 

did anyone else from the Mater Dei teams wrestle in college 

CP is running out teams with 

mendez Ohio state 

tattini Duke 

Frazier VA tech 

Bahl IU 

Goin IU 

Cruz Purdue 

that’s at least 6 division 1 wrestlers in their line up 

Rinehart I can see going D1, the Clark’s probably D1 football kids

line up the duals and see?
 

We can all be nostalgic but this is the best indiana has ever been and that’s coming from all of the National guys.
 

More guys will be recruited in indiana right now because of how good CP, Brownsburg and Center grove are 

32 minutes ago, navy80 said:

What's scary about this Crown Point team was that they weren't at full strength come tournament time. 

132- Hawkins would have placed.

152- Rhinehart would have placed. 

 

The difference in the old Mater Dei teams that I would consider is how Mater Dei, contrary to everyones belief, had Mater Dei kids on the team. CP has kids from other schools. I won't say the dreaded R word because now it's open enrollment and kids can go wherever they choose. 

 

If you are talking about a pure home based Indiana team, it's 2003 Mater Dei. If you are talking about the best team in Indiana history, it's 2022 or 2023 Crown Point.

 Define home raised talent?

besides Rinehart who was not trained by Hawkins and Sessa? 
 

Just now, navy80 said:

AHHHH I got to get used to them.

 

175- Veazy

190- Henry- I think??

215- Clark

285- Clark

 

What are the chances 220 Clark gains weight and has to wrestle off his brother for a varsity spot!?!? 

 

 

I think he was under 220

 but there is another set of Clark’s in 8th grade and one is currently 220 so there will be a Clark vs clark wrestle off 

And chicoine is returning at 220 

1 minute ago, navy80 said:

I am now a fan of Gunner after seeing him go to Indy Nationals the day after state and winning it.

 

They have wrestled twice recently. Gunner won both. Freestyle is completely different but it won't be a blowout.  Veazy and Gunner will hopefully be in different weight classes next year so they both get a title instead of one.

 

195 - GUNNER HENRY (RED COBRA WRESTLING ACADEMY) over DE`ALCAPON VEAZY (WARRIOR RTC) Dec 14-5

 

3rd Place Match - Gunner Henry (Brownsburg) 35-3 won by decision over De`Alcapon Veazy (Fort Wayne Snider) 35-6 (Dec 3-2)  

 

Just imagine next year's 182-285

 

182- Veazy (Penola)

195- Henry (Mcconnell)

220- Clark (Kindred, Beck, Hinton, Johnson)

285- Clark

And the new weight classes 

175-190-215-285 

48 minutes ago, GenHeavyHandz said:

My lock for next year is Veazy.

What if veazy and gunner are the same weight

33 minutes ago, maligned said:

All the starred teams on the leaderboard have one additional starter back from injury or transfer situations.

Does it take away from points that were in that same weight? 

does a team like CP get double points for Evan Cruz(jr) at 138 then Kaptur(jr) qualify for semi state at 38? 
 

Honest question not complaining 

Perry has 13 returning starters? 

I love that he went out wrestled Indy nationals dude loves to wrestle 

3 minutes ago, BIGCATSontheMAT said:

Schaefers at 113 and 120 next year. Should be considered for high podium placements 

Agreed Isaiah match with Jackson Saturday morning was awesome 

106 I think Dickman bburg and Rouix could still be in the mix at 106 I know they were smaller coming in to high school. 
possible impact freshman Jensen Boyd
 

113- Ayden Bollinger moving up a weigh a returning 3rd placer could be a strong favorite. If Dickman moves up a weight I would think he is the favorite 

120- returning Champ Larocca I would guess is the favorite, Gavin Jendreas has a win over Larocca at Al

smith and Preston Haines has been under the lights it will be interesting to see if Hockaday stays 120 and hunts another champ 

126- Jake Hockaday 2x champ moving up a weight took out a 2x champ I would guess he will be towards the top of the pound for pound 

dark horse Incoming Freshman Clinton Shepherd has been wrestling well and wrestled Jake tough at IHPO 

132- could be an exciting weight. Exciting Freshman Tylin Thrine undefeated would be the favorite but 2 incoming freshman have Wins over Thrine 

Evan Stanley Lowell is tough and Angelo Vargo is equally as explosive as Thrine 

Thrine and Freshman stud Haines had a wild match in the quarters 9-8 could be good 

138- Brady Ison is the runner up and lost some tight matches to Buttler and has a win over Leavell who is a 2x 3rd and a champ I would guess those 2 would be the favorite 

dark horse Landon Hawkins gotta get on the mat but the talent is there and has won a lot of big matches 

144- Reece Courtney and Jeffery Huyvaert was a great match in the semis and could be under the lights 

dark Horse Parker Reynolds Parker is tough split with Courtney has some injuries at the end but I wouldn’t count Parker out 

150- Wyatt Kresja had 1 loss and ran to the lights. Dude is tough Graham will be in the mix I would guess some of the 38’s will grow my guess would be Major

157- 3 semi finalist return at 152 May, Betz and Brabender. May has had an incredible year and wrestled Lowery tough I would say he is the favorite Betz and barbender have improved every year. 
 

165- Brenton Russall is the only returning medalist at 160 he will be in the mix. I wouldn’t sleep on Beck the freshman from Rochester gave Goin the toughest match of the weekend 

now the weights get really weird 

174- Hobart Aiden Costellos last 2 losses were Ruhlman and goodwin the finalist. He has a :34 second pin against cashman who was in the semis and split with Harden the freshman from cathedral but I could see Harden growing out of the weight possibly a healthy Noah Clouser 

2 Dark horses I think this will be the weight Nationally Ranked Anthony Rinehart will fall I think he will have a good summer and incoming freshman Rojas Brownsburg will be really tough there I think he will be in the mix 

190- It will be Veazys weight to lose Penolas jump from sophomore year to junior year was amazing does he make another big jump and win a title. Weems and Freeman really looked great as sophomore and freshman. 
Dark horse Brewer had a hicup Friday night but had multiple wins over weems and might get a great partner to work with every day 

215 

Will Clark is the retuning champ and ran the gauntlet. The shocker of the weekend Cole Chicoine the pride of the logansport regional is returning and I would Guess 195 runner up Mcconell will be in the mix also Gunnar Henry who has a nice rivalry with Will Clark 

Kendrix puts in a ton of work over the summer and will look to contend 

285 Paul Clark had a barn burner in the semis with Jones and only lost to jones in indiana. He will try to match his brother 

McNutt is fast and strong he will continue to grow in to the weight and look to get under the lights with Clark. 
 

If there is any run on sentances or misspelled words sorry quickly wrote from my phone and on my lunch 

And he is a really nice kid! Congratulations 

Maybe I missed it, but I was a little surprised they didnt have Mendez on the cover. 
 

No disrespect to Fishback such a great story. 

How will these top teams fit with the new weight classes? 
 

i think it could help Bburg get 1 more hammer in the line up next year

I do think Penn can be better next year. I think adding Harper and Vargo both who I think can medal as freshman helps. Bennett, Harper, Denton and Hollyfield are a strong strong senior class. I think all 4 are possibly medal hopefully they can avoid the injury bug.
 

Vinny Freeman medaling at 182 can be in the mix but for a title will need to continue to develop and possibly miss Veazy

everybody should be excited about their chances next year but also don’t count out the Cavemen  

A great recap by Indianamat message board legend @TysonNisley Tyson gives great previews and the times added him to their coverage! 
 

https://www.nwitimes.com/sports/high-school/wrestling/crown-point-proves-its-still-top-dog-repeats-as-state-champ/article_dea84862-0de9-55c8-82b2-f7ae97a20e88.html#tracking-source=home-top-story

4 minutes ago, Websterk149 said:

I didn’t mention crown point at all but thanks.
 

What about Perry 2011-13 then? Winfield, lecount, massengale, Johnson’s, warrens?, lecount, cooper maybe too? I am sure there’s more.

 

Cathedral from like 2016-21? Seltzer, slivka, rodgers, mosconi, melloh, guhls?, corsaro, Bernard.
 

Mater Dei- from like beginning of time to idk when? Lol Lee brothers are all at Penn state I’d say that’s pretty good I’ll just stop there for them.  

 

All those guys wrestled at the next level. I’m sure I can get more names too. Idk what your tryin to prove here considering I didn’t mention CP at all and do respect them. Only questioned Center Grove being called a  “dynasty” with 0 titles and just wanted to show love to other Indiana schools that really have been a massive constant for Indiana dominant talent. 

I am not arguing the greatness just asking about those squads 

perry was stacked so was Catherdral.

1 hour ago, nmsmelby said:

Indianamat has Goin going to IU

Fixed 

3 minutes ago, GenHeavyHandz said:

If Veazy Had to lose to someone I'm glad it was Cruz. He just broke my heart and then thanked his parents and community. Class act.

Veazy wins the next 2 

Just now, Galagore said:

Maybe they could just host it at Merrillville?

 I would hope everyone would be able to experience that once in their life 

We saw some Amazing freshman this year including 2 that won Titles in Revin Dickman and Tylin Thrine! 
 

who will be the next crop 

my top 5 

1. Clinton Shepherd Crown Point 

had a great IHPO being state medalist along the way 

2. Evan Stanley Lowell 

already has a long list of state medalist he has beat and won the weight at middle school state last year with Thrine 

3. Angelo Vargo Penn
Has a win over Tylin Thrine at a middle school state. Will be in contention for Penn next year 

4. Miguel Rojos Brownsburg 

coming in at a bigger weight Rojos has multiple Tulsa titles 

5. Gavin Lewis Hobart 

had another impressive middle schools state and has solid wins over guys have currently have medals. 
 

1 hour ago, Websterk149 said:

How is center grove a dynasty with 0 team titles? No disrespect to them, they compete hard as hell, but cmon. And Indiana hasn’t had more dominant schools? Mater Dei, Perry, Penn, warren, cathedral might beg to differ lol 

Cp run is pretty impressive what is the most D1 guys any team has had in their line up? 

126 Frazier va tech 

145 Bahl IU 

160 Goin IU

182 Cruz Purdue 

last year 

Mendez Ohio state 

tattini Duke 

jendras, Clark twins still under classman and have D1 potential. Of the teams mentioned who wrestled at the next level