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He is having a great season so far

Seeing Julio and regionrat in the same thread has some serious spiderman meme vibes. 
 
 

At Hobart we relive part of our DAC dreams taking on Valpo, Chesterton, and Lake Central along with Hanover Central and Whiting. 
Knox, Hammond Morton, Highland are here as well. 

Seeing Julio and regionrat in the same thread has some serious spiderman meme vibes. 
 
 

Seeing Julio and regionrat in the same thread has some serious spiderman meme vibes. 
 
 

Seeing Julio and regionrat in the same thread has some serious spiderman meme vibes. 
 
 

Why would you do this? Now here comes the bickering about who needs the last spot.. Its definitely south Adams in 1A 😂😂

More like track wolverine or honey badger 

With a heavy heart I would like to let the wrestling community know that one of the long time region youth coaches passed away. Luis Acuna long time coach at many of the local clubs and most recently RWA passed. Luis had a love for our great sport and volunteered countless hours to our sport. He leave behind 4 sons and his wife . Please keep Luis in your thoughts and prayers. A gofund me page has been setup to help the family in their time of need.
 
https://www.gofundme.com/f/luis-acuna-and-family?fbclid=IwAR0_KQj707VAeq3uPIgFhdoqcxckj1chlLOQGF3hB-Kw5WA6RYBw-kHCGbk

Aidan Costello over Z Hollyfield Fall 
 
#5 Bryce Denton over Devin Wible 7-6
 
Denton/Wible was a fun one!! 

Wrestling parents from Hamilton Heights and Tipton bring comfort and aid to a very cold Saturday after the super six at Hamilton Heights. Wonderful story about community and helping others!

I just bought one. I’ll wear it under my Hobart shirt at Mishawaka. 

Coach Gunsett is a great coach, great leader, and a great man.  New Haven Wrestling will support him in any way they can.  Prayers to him, his family, and the Bellmont wrestling community.  

I would ask every visitor to this website to consider supporting coach Paul Gunsett, a state champion wrestler and coach, and a member of the Hall of Fame, in a fight that will last longer than six minutes on the mat. 
 
Please see the attached flyer for more details and please consider donating directly to the family or purchasing a shirt. 
COACH GUNSETT SUPPORT.pdf

Rated M for matreturn 

Rated M for matreturn 

This logic is why there is a classed Team State. These numbers make a lot of sense for arguing for a classed Team State and an unclassed Individual State.
 
Big Schools get more individual state qualifiers in the unclassed Individual State format. 
Small Schools get more individual representation in the classed Team State format. 
I feel like you are pointing out a designed element of the system and saying it is a flaw. 
 
Making this argument for more Big Schools at team state seems to forget that the Individual State is creates results with more Big School participants based on the numbers. We can't talk about Team State and Individual State in isolation, because they are the top two ways we celebrate and showcase our HS wrestlers and teams. 
 
There are less 4A teams at Team State because there are just less 4A teams. There is a higher probability in making 4A Team State for each 4A team with or without EMD and Cathedal. There are less 3A teams at Team State because there are less 3A teams. 
 
There are more 4A individual state qualifiers at Individual State because there are more students in 4A schools. The representations of student population and state qualifiers was extremely close when it was posted on the board last. To me that justifies the unclassed Individual State tournament. 
 
Team State is about getting top programs of all sizes state goals that are achievable for every school. We can't make every goal completely equal in difficulty, so there are cut-offs, and there is always  frustration closest to the cut-offs of all situations in life. My team was #13 the last year of the 3 class system in 3A, so we didn't make it. That was frustrating, but it was understandable. As Winimac has attested, frustration will occur in our system, just like all systems that divide people into groups, but it can also be overcame. It also gives much more satisfaction than frustration in general, and even compared to past versions of team state.
 
 

This logic is why there is a classed Team State. These numbers make a lot of sense for arguing for a classed Team State and an unclassed Individual State.
 
Big Schools get more individual state qualifiers in the unclassed Individual State format. 
Small Schools get more individual representation in the classed Team State format. 
I feel like you are pointing out a designed element of the system and saying it is a flaw. 
 
Making this argument for more Big Schools at team state seems to forget that the Individual State is creates results with more Big School participants based on the numbers. We can't talk about Team State and Individual State in isolation, because they are the top two ways we celebrate and showcase our HS wrestlers and teams. 
 
There are less 4A teams at Team State because there are just less 4A teams. There is a higher probability in making 4A Team State for each 4A team with or without EMD and Cathedal. There are less 3A teams at Team State because there are less 3A teams. 
 
There are more 4A individual state qualifiers at Individual State because there are more students in 4A schools. The representations of student population and state qualifiers was extremely close when it was posted on the board last. To me that justifies the unclassed Individual State tournament. 
 
Team State is about getting top programs of all sizes state goals that are achievable for every school. We can't make every goal completely equal in difficulty, so there are cut-offs, and there is always  frustration closest to the cut-offs of all situations in life. My team was #13 the last year of the 3 class system in 3A, so we didn't make it. That was frustrating, but it was understandable. As Winimac has attested, frustration will occur in our system, just like all systems that divide people into groups, but it can also be overcame. It also gives much more satisfaction than frustration in general, and even compared to past versions of team state.
 
 

This logic is why there is a classed Team State. These numbers make a lot of sense for arguing for a classed Team State and an unclassed Individual State.
 
Big Schools get more individual state qualifiers in the unclassed Individual State format. 
Small Schools get more individual representation in the classed Team State format. 
I feel like you are pointing out a designed element of the system and saying it is a flaw. 
 
Making this argument for more Big Schools at team state seems to forget that the Individual State is creates results with more Big School participants based on the numbers. We can't talk about Team State and Individual State in isolation, because they are the top two ways we celebrate and showcase our HS wrestlers and teams. 
 
There are less 4A teams at Team State because there are just less 4A teams. There is a higher probability in making 4A Team State for each 4A team with or without EMD and Cathedal. There are less 3A teams at Team State because there are less 3A teams. 
 
There are more 4A individual state qualifiers at Individual State because there are more students in 4A schools. The representations of student population and state qualifiers was extremely close when it was posted on the board last. To me that justifies the unclassed Individual State tournament. 
 
Team State is about getting top programs of all sizes state goals that are achievable for every school. We can't make every goal completely equal in difficulty, so there are cut-offs, and there is always  frustration closest to the cut-offs of all situations in life. My team was #13 the last year of the 3 class system in 3A, so we didn't make it. That was frustrating, but it was understandable. As Winimac has attested, frustration will occur in our system, just like all systems that divide people into groups, but it can also be overcame. It also gives much more satisfaction than frustration in general, and even compared to past versions of team state.
 
 

Aubin never weighing 106 again

For what it is worth, I agree with your sentiment about wanting to give more teams more opportunities.  I believe the addition of this version Team State, run by the IHSWCA, has been an amazing addition and has done just that, to give teams more opportunities.  I personally do not mind that it is not IHSAA sponsored and think I think that it is run more effectively with the IHSWCA than it would with the IHSAA anyways.
 
If the venue allows for 12, then I suppose I agree this could be beneficial but just wanted to give you some stats.
 
4a - 38 total schools (21% of schools qualify for team state)
3a - 56 total schools (14% of schools qualify for team state)
2a - 85 total schools (14% of schools qualify for team state)
1a - 85 total schools (14% of schools qualify for team state)
 
*Numbers may be slightly off as I just counted the qualification sheet on the Team State leaderboard page.
 
EMD and Cathedral are counted in that 4a total above.  To your point they "take" 2 spots every year.  If you remove them, and only consider that 6 schools make it out of the 36, then that is 17% of schools that qualify for Team state.
 
I agree that if they can do 12 schools, then why not.  However, you do have to remember that 3a + 4a is basically just one class split into 2.  When you look at it that way, that class gets 16 qualifiers for Team State.
 
It is very unfortunate when you have potentially your best team in school history and you are being bumped to 4a when you could potentially qualify for 3a but they do have to draw the line somewhere.
 
Again, I agree with your sentiment but just wanted to throw some numbers out there.  I think this event is great and I am sure the powers that be appreciate any input for this event as well.  Each year they seem very open to changes and constructive criticism to make this event even better.

3 years I have been on here lobbying for Winamac to get (and Earn) an invite to Team State... I spit out many many statistics and comparisons to teams that were going and each year just felt CHEATED by the system....  couldn't understand how others were more deserving than our program based on given information. The hardest part  was comparing teams that don't see each other... ECC Semi-State vs Fort Wayne Semi-State, The always viewed weak Logansport Regional, and now to see that what so many people started working for almost 9 years ago to rebuild a program from 7 total wrestlers in the wrestling room to EARNING enough respect as a program from the selection committee (obviously not amongst all coaches in the northern half of the state) to be invited to TEAM STATE.....  I am so very thankful... I have no words to express the gratitude for this recognition... The part that excites me most is how this will ENERGIZE our kids and our community... These kids that have put in the work even when they had been knocked down time and time again. The FUEL this honor will provide our program can't be matched....  This experience for our kids will not be something that could be replicated anywhere.... 
 
I see and now understand that I was wrong the last 3 years.... focusing on the negative of not being invited was not fair to those that were invited and to all those programs I do publicly apologize....  wished I would have learned that sooner.... 
 
Side note....  To see Rochester, West Central, and Winamac all invited to Team State is so awesome for our little area!!! Great job head coaches and all supporters of each of those programs!!  Best of luck to each!!!

My team has been 0-2 in vote ins at the end of the season, 2021 and 2019, though we did get the second vote-in spot last winter when Columbia City withdrew their auto-bid during the season. It is frustrating to be close and not get in. I've been there. 
 
I think part of the difficulty in explaining reasoning comes from it being a committee that votes on the teams. No one person's reasoning supersedes the group decision. Each person votes equally. We all look at last season's results, the information given from the coaches, and the projected line-ups to make our votes.