Jayruss Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) I have a few questions on this one… Are they scheduled to face off in the regular season ? Will one bump up (Leavell) seems silly, or down (Schaefer), no small task, but a better option than up. Or, will they give us a show a la Lee vs Red high school part 2.? And lastly, who wins ? My prediction: Both of those throwback type wrestlers don’t budge and stay on a collision course only to wrestle under the lights and for all of the marbles. A perfect scenario is both wrestlers entering with an insert 45+ wins to zero losses, but depending on that heavy Brownsburg schedule if Hockaday drops one, or we find out splitting time with a pigskin vs. specializing in one sport is the better of the two routes. If they meet once then I give the nod to Thrine because he’s an upset machine, but if twice then Hockaday days what he does and learns from his loss to get the W! thoughts ? Edited November 23, 2023 by Jayruss littleblack.backpack, Coplen187, HCman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshep86 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Hockaday will be battle tested all season and has wins against top 10 national talent. I don't think he can be an underdog in any match in indiana at this point. Thrine did pull an upset last yr and is extremely athletic and talented but Jake holds position to good and has great timing on attacks. Jake will be on pace to be a top 5 nationally his senior yr. GrecoSupreme, HWTDAD, TrueRegionFan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavyHandz Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) I don’t think we are at Red and Lee level yet: they are a Sophomore and Junior. But I get the anticipation. I said 3 years ago I had Hockaday winning 4. That being said: Thrine had one of the best Freshman campaigns I’ve ever seen: and I’m old and have seen 39 years of Championships. I’d like to toss my Homeboy Lil Vargo in the conversation. Don’t blink is all I’m saying. Either way take my money. Edited November 23, 2023 by GenHeavyHandz Jayruss, ontherise219, busstogate and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookie78 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Is he wrestling the whole Trine team? Marc Laterzo, Tcarter, jcs12402 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) That would be an excited match up for sure. Both are really good on their feet but I would say Jake has the advantage Edited November 23, 2023 by ontherise219 TrueRegionFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan937 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 One little mistake made and thrine has you on your back. HCman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcs12402 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Hockaday may beat one or two Trine wrestlers, but no way he beats the whole team. I do think he will handle Thrine without a problem. HWTDAD, Tcarter and rookie78 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavyHandz Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, jcs12402 said: Hockaday may beat one or two Trine wrestlers, but no way he beats the whole team. I do think he will handle Thrine without a problem. Pump da breaks…..skeetskrrrrrt! You’re supposed to wait to sip the eggnog at Christmas. Without a problem? You must be late to the festivities: Thrine is definitely “A” problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcarter Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 32 minutes ago, GenHeavyHandz said: Pump da breaks…..skeetskrrrrrt! You’re supposed to wait to sip the eggnog at Christmas. Without a problem? You must be late to the festivities: Thrine is definitely “A” problem! They're making a joke because the OP spelled his name "Trine" rather than "Thrine", they're talking about Trine U wrestlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshep86 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) I don't know if it will be as close as some people think. I do agree it will be a very exciting match up and I do think thrine can be a problem because you can't game plan to his style because he will bust out some wild stuff. I agree with fella above that vargo kind of had a similar style to thrine so those two would be fun to watch but Jake imo at this point is at a different level. And a few months from now someone may swing back and make me eat my words. Not close to a red/Lee level yet! Jake has great defense and great timing offense, he's a problem! Edited November 23, 2023 by Dailygrind86 Tcarter and Jayruss 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JORVILLE Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Come out to The Carnahan Dec 16th. Where there will be hammers at every weight classes . But I believe 126-157 will be absolutely loaded as Bishop McCort is the deepest high school team around those weights . 3 Super 32 Champs alone from there . Paycheck141, TrueRegionFan and Tcarter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcarter Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, JORVILLE said: Come out to The Carnahan Dec 16th. Where there will be hammers at every weight classes . But I believe 126-157 will be absolutely loaded as Bishop McCort is the deepest high school team around those weights . 3 Super 32 Champs alone from there . That'll be a good one for sure! Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family Joe, and best to Evan on the upcoming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueRegionFan Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 37 minutes ago, Dailygrind86 said: I don't know if it will be as close as some people think. I do agree it will be a very exciting match up and I do think thrine can be a problem because you can't game plan to his style because he will bust out some wild stuff. I agree with fella above that vargo kind of had a similar style to thrine so those two would be fun to watch but Jake imo at this point is at a different level. And a few months from now someone may swing back and make me eat my words. Not close to a red/Lee level yet! Jake has great defense and great timing offense, he's a problem! I agree and believe Hockaday would control the match. In my opinion, Hockaday is Indiana's P4P #1. I also have to admit I thought Frazier would control the match last year against Thrine and I was proven wrong. Regardless, if the match happens, it will be fun to watch. Good luck to both wrestlers! Jayruss, HCman, Cricket21 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JORVILLE Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 38 minutes ago, Tcarter said: That'll be a good one for sure! Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family Joe, and best to Evan on the upcoming season. Thanks Tim same to you guys and good luck this upcoming season Tcarter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayruss Posted November 23, 2023 Author Share Posted November 23, 2023 4 hours ago, rookie78 said: Is he wrestling the whole Trine team? I edited it lol rookie78 and Tcarter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcs12402 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 2 hours ago, GenHeavyHandz said: Pump da breaks…..skeetskrrrrrt! You’re supposed to wait to sip the eggnog at Christmas. Without a problem? You must be late to the festivities: Thrine is definitely “A” problem! Tylin is a really good wrestler, but Hockaday is next level. Look at what happened over the summer. Tylin losing several times at U16, and Hockaday slaying at Fargo as a Junior jshep86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavyHandz Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, jcs12402 said: Tylin is a really good wrestler, but Hockaday is next level. Look at what happened over the summer. Tylin losing several times at U16, and Hockaday slaying at Fargo as a Junior I've heard it all before. Most thought the same thing when he wrestled Frazier. I saw Frazier mauling people last week for VT. Freestyle is not folkstyle. I've seen guys win Fargo 4 times and never win state. I've seen guys win state who didn't know what Fargo was. Head to head during the season will determine who is the champ. Jayruss, HCman, RASSLER4LIFE and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshep86 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 1 hour ago, GenHeavyHandz said: I've heard it all before. Most thought the same thing when he wrestled Frazier. I saw Frazier mauling people last week for VT. Freestyle is not folkstyle. I've seen guys win Fargo 4 times and never win state. I've seen guys win state who didn't know what Fargo was. Head to head during the season will determine who is the champ. Frazier took foot off the gas and learned from it and will do great in college, but Jake has a good track record in folkstyle as well. I think he has beaten some top 5 nationally ranked in folk and seems to only be improving. Believe he beat one of those raney boys at one time in folk in the last yr. Hes pretty solid. At the end of the day its wrestling and anybody can be beat! GenHeavyHandz, MatTime and TrueRegionFan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aoberlin Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 All I know is that I was extremely impressed with Thrine at State. Kid is a natural and the skies the limit. I wouldn’t bet against either one of them. GenHeavyHandz, Jayruss, Tcarter and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttler73 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 I think both are great. I think and feel fairly confident barring any unforeseen events that Jake is a 4 timer. He may wind up as one of the best HS ever to come out of Indiana. Thrine maybe jumps up a weight(138) makes the most sense. He is a football player so staying small is probably not going to happen. I think he would have better chance at success bumping up. 138 is not a clearly defined as some may think. Only issue is Gavin Whitehead stayed at 138 it looks like unless there is plans to move up. let the year play out a bit. Would not be surprised to see some other changes at 132. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JORVILLE Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 58 minutes ago, buttler73 said: I think both are great. I think and feel fairly confident barring any unforeseen events that Jake is a 4 timer. He may wind up as one of the best HS ever to come out of Indiana. Thrine maybe jumps up a weight(138) makes the most sense. He is a football player so staying small is probably not going to happen. I think he would have better chance at success bumping up. 138 is not a clearly defined as some may think. Only issue is Gavin Whitehead stayed at 138 it looks like unless there is plans to move up. let the year play out a bit. Would not be surprised to see some other changes at 132. I think unless you have seen Clinton Shepherd up close most don’t have a good feel for how good he is because hasn’t done as much Indiana stuff. He will be hard to beat come February. Also Kyrel and Ison listed at 138 also top contenders . Thrine was super impressive last season and can’t want to see it all play out. buttler73, HCman, Tcarter and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Glad to have an opportunity to watch all these great wrestlers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcarter Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, JORVILLE said: I think unless you have seen Clinton Shepherd up close most don’t have a good feel for how good he is because hasn’t done as much Indiana stuff. He will be hard to beat come February. Also Kyrel and Ison listed at 138 also top contenders . Thrine was super impressive last season and can’t want to see it all play out. Same man, Shep could 100% be a 4 timer, not many out there work as hard as he does. Jayruss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgPoundRed Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, JORVILLE said: I think unless you have seen Clinton Shepherd up close most don’t have a good feel for how good he is because hasn’t done as much Indiana stuff. He will be hard to beat come February. Also Kyrel and Ison listed at 138 also top contenders . Thrine was super impressive last season and can’t want to see it all play out. To bad new castle doesn't wrestle any of the top events- shepherd major kid is a machine and will only keep improving. Maybe Hockday vs Shepherd next year when Jake is going for his 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgPoundRed Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 2 hours ago, buttler73 said: I think both are great. I think and feel fairly confident barring any unforeseen events that Jake is a 4 timer. He may wind up as one of the best HS ever to come out of Indiana. Thrine maybe jumps up a weight(138) makes the most sense. He is a football player so staying small is probably not going to happen. I think he would have better chance at success bumping up. 138 is not a clearly defined as some may think. Only issue is Gavin Whitehead stayed at 138 it looks like unless there is plans to move up. let the year play out a bit. Would not be surprised to see some other changes at 132. Jake will need to start being an all American more if he wants to be in that goat convo with mendez Lee BLee Red Tshirts angel and Parris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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