FCFIGHTER170 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, awill0352 said: How do some kids have 10-15 more matches than others? Covid cancellings, More matches scheduled awill0352 and 1prouddad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, awill0352 said: How do some kids have 10-15 more matches than others? Brownsburg wrestlers just wrestled a 20 team Dual tournament, wrestled 9-10 teams in 2 days . awill0352 and FCFIGHTER170 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithcoach Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 37 minutes ago, awill0352 said: How do some kids have 10-15 more matches than others? It depends a lot on schedule. Some teams have 2 day tournaments or have a lot of competition at the beginning vs the end of the season. Also injury/sickness plays a role in it some as well. awill0352 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookie78 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Do JV kids count? We have a couple lol!! indianmorg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 5 hours ago, awill0352 said: How do some kids have 10-15 more matches than others? Due to Covid we lost a 5 way meet and a few kids lost a couple of duals as well... Some teams may also have the front part of their schedule heavier than the backside Or maybe it just depends on the type of 2 or events the team is in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuinnHarris Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) We do not wrestle in any individual tournaments so every weekend we get 5 matches and then our holiday tournament got us 9 matches over 2 days. Our team is at 28 matches and will be at about 35-38 by sectionals! Just depends how you use your weigh ins. I will say having all these matches will be good for us down the road! Edited January 1, 2022 by QuinnHarris Corey Bickel, 1prouddad, 84Coach and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awill0352 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Forfeits don’t count correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Bickel Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, awill0352 said: Forfeits don’t count correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awill0352 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, Corey Bickel said: Sorry I honestly don’t know the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, awill0352 said: Sorry I honestly don’t know the answer. I guess I’ve never seen anyone lose to the forfeit family(lol) now, as long as Johnny isn’t 21-0 Vs ff, then sure why not. Give them the recognition as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Bickel Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, awill0352 said: Sorry I honestly don’t know the answer. I apologize for my remark. Forfeits still would go towards the record. awill0352 and 1prouddad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuinnHarris Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 11 hours ago, awill0352 said: Forfeits don’t count correct? In my opinion they count if received in a dual meet if you're getting a BYE in an individual tournament that does not count towards your record. However a FF scores 6 points for the team in a dual meet and if you get a FF in an individual tournament it is 2 bonus points for your team. I think if you're earning your team points the win counts. Especially in duals where teams have a kid at the weight and decide not to wrestle them! 1prouddad, Faithcoach and awill0352 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookie78 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 When sectional seeding meetings come around, winning % becomes seeding criteria. However, winning % for this criteria is calculated WITHOUT ff's. I feel it penalizes some kids, due to other teams not having kids at those weight classes or when coaches bump or sit a kid against you, for whatever reason. QuinnHarris and awill0352 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuinnHarris Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, rookie78 said: When sectional seeding meetings come around, winning % becomes seeding criteria. However, winning % for this criteria is calculated WITHOUT ff's. I feel it penalizes some kids, due to other teams not having kids at those weight classes or when coaches bump or sit a kid against you, for whatever reason. Good to know as I will be heading into my first sectional seeding meeting this season. That will definitely hurt kids but oh well, with our state tournament you have to beat everyone to win it all! awill0352 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyzirkle Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 11 hours ago, QuinnHarris said: In my opinion they count if received in a dual meet if you're getting a BYE in an individual tournament that does not count towards your record. However a FF scores 6 points for the team in a dual meet and if you get a FF in an individual tournament it is 2 bonus points for your team. I think if you're earning your team points the win counts. Especially in duals where teams have a kid at the weight and decide not to wrestle them! It appeared to me during the CP Carnahan Invite that forfeits first round only scored advancement points and not the 2 additional for a fall. CP had a couple more forfeits than Brownsburg first round, so they took the lead with bonus points. The Al Smith Invite appeared to grant first round forfeits with both advancement and 2 bonus points so that a team wouldn’t fall behind in score from another that had an opportunity for a pin. Feel free to correct me if I perceived the scoring difference wrong. Is there a uniform rule about bonus points first round for forfeits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBCclan Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) Undefeated sounds great but strength of schedule has a huge impact. Facing tough competition week in and week out will take you farther in the state tournament than a pretty record. Even a loss or two from top competition can be great learning opportunities. Everyone knows this. With that said, my sophomore son is currently 17 - 0 (16 pins and a 2nd period tech fall). 25-0 including forfeits. He is unranked. He was a semi state qualifier last year as a freshman. He flys under the radar because our schedule is weaker than most. That’s perfectly ok. I frequently remind him to stay humble and focused as he will face some hammers in the near future. It’s his job to be ready when that time comes. Edited January 3, 2022 by KBCclan Matthew Nelson, Corey Bickel, KoontzDaddy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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