decbell1 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Date: 12/13/2021 Entity: IndianaMat Type: Dual Ranking Class: 2A 1. Bellmont 2. Garrett 3. Delta 4. Jay County 5. Monrovia 6. Oak Hill 7. Owen Valley 8. Norwell 9. Wawasee 10. Hamilton Heights View full team ranking BrodyHardcastle, AdamsCoBuschhh and Pork chop fan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Spangle Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 I don't think Hamilton Heights is getting enough credit for 15-1. They beat us (Chatard) pretty handily. 57-20. We haven't seen Delta, Monrovia, or Owen Valley so I can only use common opponents to make the connections. Delta lost to Alexandria, Alexandria lost to North Putnam (Results not posted) and Chatard beat North Putnam 54-22. Also: Monrovia beat Indian Creek 44-29 Chatard beat them 48-31. Monrovia beat North Putnam 69-12 Chatard 54-22 Similar story with Owen Valley: Owen Valley over NP 57-21 Owen Valley Over Indian Creek 48-24 Granted this is using the transitive property a few times. It could come down to the way the teams matchup, but looking at common opponents I'm not sure #10 is the spot for the Huskies. Ironbear and Shane Tilton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Brobst Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 I think team rankings are so hard to do. Especially because match-ups make such a difference. If you match up correctly, you can put up a big score against a good team or look like you got stomped against a team you were pretty close with. Results that don't have details make it more difficult. Even with details, it doesn't tell the whole story. Were kids out with COVID, the flu, injuries that they'll return from. I know my team hasn't had the same line-up at an event yet due to some illness that seems to be keeping kids out for 5-8 days. We've been minus 4 starters at every event this year, just different ones each time. It cost us against Carmel, Zionsville, and Terre Haute South, matches we lost by 1 match going our way instead of the other. Those three in particular all came down to the last match each time. They're not perfect, and the transitive property nearly never works the way you think. We beat Noblesville by a bunch last night because we match up with them well. They are not a bad team, but we're stronger where they are strong. We're less weak where they are weak. That can make for some lopsided scoring between two teams that are closer than it appears. All this to say, rankings are doing their job--generating discussion. Indianamat doesn't have the money (yet!) to just be bussing rankers to every corner of the state to watch teams match up (future project, Joe!) so they rely on our results being reported with details. We do better, rankings are better. QuinnHarris and Y2CJ41 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbear Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Trojan Coach said: I don't think Hamilton Heights is getting enough credit for 15-1. They beat us (Chatard) pretty handily. 57-20. We haven't seen Delta, Monrovia, or Owen Valley so I can only use common opponents to make the connections. Delta lost to Alexandria, Alexandria lost to North Putnam (Results not posted) and Chatard beat North Putnam 54-22. Also: Monrovia beat Indian Creek 44-29 Chatard beat them 48-31. Monrovia beat North Putnam 69-12 Chatard 54-22 Similar story with Owen Valley: Owen Valley over NP 57-21 Owen Valley Over Indian Creek 48-24 Granted this is using the transitive property a few times. It could come down to the way the teams matchup, but looking at common opponents I'm not sure #10 is the spot for the Huskies. Thank you for the kind words. Shane Tilton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbear Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Shhh....be very quite!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Buchanan Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 No way jimtown is not in top 10 coachaking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Smith Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 11:06 AM, Trojan Coach said: I don't think Hamilton Heights is getting enough credit for 15-1. They beat us (Chatard) pretty handily. 57-20. We haven't seen Delta, Monrovia, or Owen Valley so I can only use common opponents to make the connections. Delta lost to Alexandria, Alexandria lost to North Putnam (Results not posted) and Chatard beat North Putnam 54-22. Also: Monrovia beat Indian Creek 44-29 Chatard beat them 48-31. Monrovia beat North Putnam 69-12 Chatard 54-22 Similar story with Owen Valley: Owen Valley over NP 57-21 Owen Valley Over Indian Creek 48-24 Granted this is using the transitive property a few times. It could come down to the way the teams matchup, but looking at common opponents I'm not sure #10 is the spot for the Huskies. Delta and Hamilton Heights both beat Southport by almost identical scores, for whatever that's worth (not much in such an individual sport as this), but it does seem they would make a good matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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