WaltHarris Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 It appears the 2 tournament qualifier for Freestyle State is back: "All participants must compete in a minimum of 2 Local level Freestyle tournaments in order to compete at the State event." Not looking to rehash the past debate. Just would like to know the criteria for a waiver and who to contact about obtaining a waiver. To say the debate on this topic last year was vigorous would be an understatement. Lots of folks moved previously established plans in order to abide by the two tournament rule, only to have many wrestlers waive in at the last second. The iswa flier does not provide any direction on criteria nor contact person for a waiver. In order to avoid confusion, I would suggest criteria and contact for waivers be added to the flier now so that the transparent policy is well known and the playing field is level for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Oh joy! WaltHarris, warsawwrestling and TheNextDynasty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800lbs Gorilla Mama Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Unbelievable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I wonder if they will change their minds at the last minute.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Let's not jump the gun....They have a few more monthes so Give them a shot to get on and answer the public's cry for some clarification before we run for the pitchforks...at the end of the day these are people doing there best to provide opportunities for our kids TripleB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMILL Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 someone send Fabio a text and tell him he left his computer terminal unlocked again when he went to the vending machine thanks for the kind words for our "Volunteer" positions buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Oh it can all go downhill fast but Im confident someone will take the time to communicate the protocols to all of us here on the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsawwrestling Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 If I remember they don't check this site, so take your comments to their website. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanForLife71 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I have already applied for and received a waiver due to a visit to a waterpark and a picnic that I just cant miss!! backtothemat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMILL Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 waterpark is good excuse as long as you meet the requirements they set out for slide weight limits, otherwise they strap one of those "different color" bracelets on you to signify to the rest of the slide attendants that you may be a little too heavy to double ride the slide.............this is all what I have heard from others as a slim and fit guy like myself doesn't have this issue. WaltHarris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJimmy Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Any significance to the Central Regionals getting moved to MI and what city did it move to? Didn't seem to be a large IN participation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Any significance to the Central Regionals getting moved to MI and what city did it move to? Didn't seem to be a large IN participation. Central Regional is on a rotational basis between Indiana, Ohio, and Michigan. Indiana kinda got a couple extra years when Michigan couldn't hold it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltHarris Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 Personally, I really do not care for the two qualifier rule. But I understand it. And I am willing to have my grandson and other club wrestlers abide by it. However, just like last year the Indiana wrestling community is sitting here with notable ambiguity. During the six available freestyle weekends, we also have Easter, USAW folkstyle nationals, viper pit, flonationals, etc. Not to mentioned wrestlers participating in track and baseball. I guess I did kind of rehash it there, sorry. So it would just be good to get this waiver information out right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 waterpark is good excuse as long as you meet the requirements they set out for slide weight limits, otherwise they strap one of those "different color" bracelets on you to signify to the rest of the slide attendants that you may be a little too heavy to double ride the slide.............this is all what I have heard from others as a slim and fit guy like myself doesn't have this issue. I hate those colored bands.... it is profiling and profiling is wrong... allyourbase 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMILL Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I don't eat at every buffet I pass, I don't enjoy the pot luck lunches at work and free nacho bars on a regular basis and I don't have a bag of beef jerky in my car at all times (wait the last couple may actually be true). These band colors that signify "Fat Man Walking" are politically incorrect in this day and age. Shouldn't I just be given the equal right to try to jam myself thru that slide tube just like any other paying person ? Who is with me ???? wait I mean who is with all the people that have this issue (not me according to my fun house mirror at home). AJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltHarris Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 This was posted to the ISWA web site a couple days ago: " Freestyle State Qualification By adminiswa | Published February 22, 2016 Don’t forget that in order to compete at the ISWA Freestyle State tournament this May you must wrestle in a minimum of 2 local freestyle events. There will be no exceptions to this qualification process." So... no waivers, then? Or could it be no waivers to participate in FS state, but one could still request a waiver for Fargo? I would like to take the statement at it's face where it reads: "No exceptions." But it is challenging do so after last year. Not a complaint, but rather a trepidation after being burnt last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 This was posted to the ISWA web site a couple days ago: "Freestyle State Qualification By adminiswa | Published February 22, 2016 Don’t forget that in order to compete at the ISWA Freestyle State tournament this May you must wrestle in a minimum of 2 local freestyle events. There will be no exceptions to this qualification process." So you have to actually compete in the events? A wrestler just can not pay his $15 and ff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig40 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I hate this rule. I feel like it is hurting the kids that are looking to better themselves and wrestle in national events. Why would we want to stay in state and wrestle mostly beginners in freestyle when we could be wrestling 5 to 6 matches in a national tournament. Some of our kids are killing it on the national scene and now they have to take a step back to compete in local tournaments. If it wasn't for schoolboy duals we would skip the state tournament all together. For those of you guys that will argue that kids need to learn freestyle, don't worry we get more then enough training in our academy. The matches in practice are much more beneficial then the few seconds the matches will take in these local tournaments we are being forced to wrestle in. Here is a look at what we are missing: March 18-20:TOA Youth Showcase(also NCAA Championships included in this weekend tournament) or Rocky Mountain Nationals March 25-27:Post Season Nationals or FloNationals April 1-3rd: USA Nationals(ISWA national tournament should be an exception) April 8-10: Reno Worlds or Middle School Duals(team Indiana's national team definitely should be an exception competing for our state) or AAU Tenn National duals April 15-18: Heartland Duals (ISWA team Indiana, again definitely should be an exception) April 22-24:Ohio Tournament of Champions April 29-1st: Viper Pit Dual and Open If there is an exception it should be competing in 2 or more of the bold tournaments. Middle School duals and heartland duals are showcased in the ISWA magazine as team Indiana events, but if you represent the state of Indiana you may not be able to wrestle in freestyle state. By the way I have posted on ISWA's site and they never respond to my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig40 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Also the way it reads anyone can wrestle in the central regional without wrestling in the state tournament. The central regional is the only requirement needed to wrestle in freestyle Nationals, so for those who want to skip state go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 They said last year there were no exemptions, yet about half the field got a waiver. Not holding my breath that some kids will magically appear after not hitting local tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig40 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 We planned on skipping state last year and was given a waiver right before or we would have missed it. They have about 3 weeks to figure something out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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