WaltHarris

An awesome man. Did not hear he had passed away. Very sad. Had Bob been ill?

I like many of your suggestions on other topics, however I disagree on part of this one. I don't care for there being a camp/qualifier right after high school state. HS kids are at their most banged up right after HS state. But I get where you are coming from. I guess I still like earning a Fargo spot by placement at FS state because it rewards kids who truly make the commitment. The two tournament qualifier has clearly hurt the number of kids who will make that commitment although. If we ever go to a different system in Indiana of qualifying for Fargo, I would really suggest we put together three separate (but equal) teams: North, Central and South. For example, that way the kids in the far south could practice together and build a culture together. We can't get everyone to Indy all the time. And a one-stop qualifier in Indy will evaporate the remaining north and south kids still doing FS. Having a north and central and south team might also give the ISWA a list of committed kids to hand pick from for Cadet and Junior Duals.

Hope some youngsters take advantage of this opportunity. It's a great tournament. Can't believe we have this many open spots.

Have we ever had it before during moratorium week? I don't recall this happening in the past but maybe it did.

Wow. There were actually multiple people with guns out, not just the body guard? I've dealt with a lot of crazy wrestling parents, fans and kids over the years, but nothing like that. Grecoref, would love to hear your stories about Russia.

Here is the article about the body guard pulling a gun on the mat with pictures included: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3599699/Moment-teenage-Russian-wrestler-s-bodyguard-waves-gun-victor-just-defeated-match-Stary-Oskol.html

I believe the cadet and schoolboy teams are based upon order of finish at state. This year with cadet duals being the same week as disney duals, probably will have a tough situation.

I would simply reiterate: for some in the Indiana wrestling community, the ends can always be rationalized to justify the means.

Brilliant response. Must have taken .05 seconds to come up with such depth of insight. Comes back to what we've been discussing the last several weeks. There are ISWA rules, but those rules only seem to matter and apply to certain people at certain times. For others, the rules don't apply. There are IHSAA rules, but those rules only seem to matter and apply to certain people at certain times. We need to start asking ourselves what we are teaching these kids. We have zero-tolerance policies where these kids are kicked off the team for school rules infractions, but when the wrestling community goes around the rules, the end ALWAYS justifies the means.

Why would we put Team Indiana camp during the ihsaa moratorium dates? That makes little sense to have it july 8-10 and defeats the purpose. Yes, I know 'others' who are not high school coaches can coach the kids. But at least give these kids the moratorium week.

Did the numbers increase or decrease from last year according to Track?

There seems to be a great deal of consensus that ISWA folkstyle state for juniors/cadets is unnecessary. Perhaps, redundant. I know ISWA really would like to keep those junior and cadet entry fees at folkstyle state. But if they truly want to display a commitment to fs/gr, then eliminate junior/cadet folk state, which would add another weekend opportunity into the fs/gr calendar for tournaments.

Btw, wasn't Center Grove's freestyle tournament cancelled due to low registration and the few entries sent over to Perry's fs tournament? If we have this large glut of youth in Indy who desired a qualifying tournament, why did they not take advantage of Center Grove's event? I apologize. Maybe I am just not that smart. But I don't understand why we had to cancel a well publicized Indy tournament at Center Grove and then subsequently had to manufacture another event at Warren that no one knew about.

Lol!

My recollection was both Carmel and Penn duals were advertised in the book and on the web. Any team could register a roster for Carmel and Penn if they contacted the tournament director and paid the fee. It was open to all if you signed up your team early enough. At least from my view, both events were not invitationals. The Penn duals were on Track, but Carmel wasn't. Most importantly, there was zero mystery around Carmel and Penn duals. Everyone was well aware of both events as a qualifier. Personally, I don't want anyone to boycott fs state. But I get all the frustration because people who followed the rules are once again feeling undercut. I said it last year and I will say it this again year. This just comes down to basic fairness. Going around the rules creates inequality and that only fuels the exact negativity we all would like to avoid.