Y2CJ41 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Rankings don't mean anything. They mean something because many college coaches look at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosgrove Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 They mean something by putting a name out there and seeing who is where and alos help[ for seeding meetings but on the mat it is up to the two out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICfan Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Is it for sure that Davis is going 126? Last year he wrestled 120 most of the year and then went down to 113 at tournament time. no its not for sure but he did say he wanted to go after the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyandky Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Rankings don't mean anything. Last year ranking of 126 was pretty much right on with the top 7 placers along with schoeber beating denton in the last few seconds.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestleMan Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 no its not for sure but he did say he wanted to go after the best. He might be rethinking that after wrestling Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevens103 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 They mean something because many college coaches look at them. Not when it comes to winning a state title. I'm not saying he's not going to tho . I believe he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Most college recruiting is done before the state finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevens103 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Most college recruiting is done before the state finals. I didn't know this post was about college recruiting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNextDynasty Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Most college recruiting is done before the state finals. I disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meluvwrestling Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I see that a Nick Lee fan posted the below on Flo Rankings under the 126# ranking. Flo or Intermat have him ranked. For all you Lee fans who think that he's better than Micic, why isn't Lee ranked? Where should he be ranked? lookupatthelights 1 hour ago nick lee is a beast. I practice with him at time to time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I see that a Nick Lee fan posted the below on Flo Rankings under the 126# ranking. Flo or Intermat have him ranked. For all you Lee fans who think that he's better than Micic, why isn't Lee ranked? Where should he be ranked? lookupatthelights 1 hour ago nick lee is a beast. I practice with him at time to time Nick has been hovering in and out of the #20 spot on Flo's rankings over the last 6 months. His lack of big national name wins during the high school season prevents him, as well as most Indiana kids, from moving around to much in Flo's rankings during the season. Other states big studs are shifting around more after strong showings at some in season national events that indiana schools can't participate in due to IHSAA travel restrictions. Since entering high school Lee just hasn't seen the top 20 national competition, but clearly a Lee win over someone Micic at state would boost his high school profile a lot. In general we will see most of a the Indiana wrestlers movement come during off season event where they will see more national competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCKAJC Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 but clearly a Lee win over someone Micic at state would boost his high school profile a lot. A win like that would give Lee a nice boost nationally. I think in time, more than likely in the offseason, he'll make some moves at the national level. IMO finishing in the top 3 this year at 126 is the expectation right now. He will be considerably bigger than Micic if and when they meet, but the outcome will be fairly decisive in Micic's favor. And that opinion is from a top nationally ranked wrestler who has wrestled both in the last year. He told me he didn''t expect the match would be a tight one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meluvwrestling Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Nick has been hovering in and out of the #20 spot on Flo's rankings over the last 6 months. His lack of big national name wins during the high school season prevents him, as well as most Indiana kids, from moving around to much in Flo's rankings during the season. Other states big studs are shifting around more after strong showings at some in season national events that indiana schools can't participate in due to IHSAA travel restrictions. Since entering high school Lee just hasn't seen the top 20 national competition, but clearly a Lee win over someone Micic at state would boost his high school profile a lot. In general we will see most of a the Indiana wrestlers movement come during off season event where they will see more national competition. Nice post. I went back and looked up Nick Lee's accomplishments via Trackwrestling. I see he has a couple of loses in the past year but other than that, most of his wins are against non-ranked wrestlers. A win against Zahid Valencia would've been big. Zahid just knows how to win period. I know that trackwrestling doesn't have all the results but could someone make an argument why Nick Lee should be ranked and his resume that would have one to believe that he's better than Micic? I've read the Davis common opponents but surely there has to be more to that argument than one matchup. I'm not talking about local competition because lets be honest, the national dominance at 126# in IN isn't there. Is Nick Lee a Cadet again next year if he attends Fargo? If so, it's going to be hard to move up the rankings. Juniors usually get the nod over Cadets when it comes to rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCKAJC Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Is Nick Lee a Cadet again next year if he attends Fargo? If so, it's going to be hard to move up the rankings. Juniors usually get the nod over Cadets when it comes to rankings. Micic wrestled as a Fila Junior last year even though he was a Cadet, and finishing 5th against mainly College opponents. After that the college coaches literally blew up the Micic's phone service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Is Nick Lee a Cadet again next year if he attends Fargo? If so, it's going to be hard to move up the rankings. Juniors usually get the nod over Cadets when it comes to rankings. Yes he will be a second year cadet. Some big name wins at events like FloNationals, Cadet Nationals in Fargo, and FILA Cadet World team trials would still help boost his rankings more than beating most in season Indiana High School competition. I'm sure possible wins over Hughes and Wilson (who would be somewhat known) and Micic (Flo #2 and other publications #1) are about the only key in season wins that national Rankers would look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meluvwrestling Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Micic wrestled as a Fila Junior last year even though he was a Cadet, and finishing 5th against mainly College opponents. After that the college coaches literally blew up the Micic's phone service. I don't think that him attending Fila Junior Nationals had anything to do with colleges calling him in July. He didn't beat any names. He beat a college wrestler who was at best 500. Maybe they liked the fact that he stepped up to challenge older wrestlers, I don't know. Micic is ranked #1 because what he's accomplishment in freestyle period. Micic has 1 win against a top name and that was Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCKAJC Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I don't think that him attending Fila Junior Nationals had anything to do with colleges calling him in July. He didn't beat any names. He beat a college wrestler who was at best 500. Maybe they liked the fact that he stepped up to challenge older wrestlers, I don't know. Micic is ranked #1 because what he's accomplishment in freestyle period. Micic has 1 win against a top name and that was Boston. You may be right. But the fact is 4 major programs that had not contacted prior to that event called within a week. So it may have been coincidence. I wasn't expressing my opinion just the timeline as it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD92 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Micic wrestled as a Fila Junior last year even though he was a Cadet, and finishing 5th against mainly College opponents. After that the college coaches literally blew up the Micic's phone service. His phone literally blew up? I hope the schools that caused the explosion help the family get a new phone. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meluvwrestling Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 You may be right. But the fact is 4 major programs that had not contacted prior to that event called within a week. So it may have been coincidence. I wasn't expressing my opinion just the timeline as it happened. I saw your post about tOSU, NU, Havard & Iowa. I can see why Micic would choose NU. Harvard (Brad Perkins = animal), Iowa (Gillman & Clark = obvious) and tOSU (Nathan Tomasello = beast) would've not been a good fit with all that talent and the fact that they are under classman. NU needs another 125# to step in after Micic redshirt year. Makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Not saying 26 isn't tough but 20 is loaded wouldn't that have been the tougher choice with a undefeated champ along with a medalist 1-10 and SQ 11-16. Red vs Micic is the match I want to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCKAJC Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I saw your post about tOSU, NU, Havard & Iowa. I can see why Micic would choose NU. Harvard (Brad Perkins = animal), Iowa (Gillman & Clark = obvious) and tOSU (Nathan Tomasello = beast) would've not been a good fit with all that talent and the fact that they are under classman. NU needs another 125# to step in after Micic redshirt year. Makes perfect sense. I think they chose NU first for the educational value then the family connection, being close to his family was absolutely #1. They are also very close with the Tsirtsis family and Stevan spends allot of time with Jason and Alex. I think Iowa and OSU may have wanted him at 133. Stevan is a 4.0 student as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meluvwrestling Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I think they chose NU first for the educational value then the family connection, being close to his family was absolutely #1. They are also very close with the Tsirtsis family and Stevan spends allot of time with Jason and Alex. I think Iowa and OSU may have wanted him at 133. Stevan is a 4.0 student as well He will definitely be getting an excellent education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerline Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I think they chose NU first for the educational value then the family connection, being close to his family was absolutely #1. They are also very close with the Tsirtsis family and Stevan spends allot of time with Jason and Alex. I think Iowa and OSU may have wanted him at 133. Stevan is a 4.0 student as well This kid is 125 for four years. Doubt he is cutting to make 126 now. 125 lb D1 guys are big, and 133 guys are huge compared to 125, some of these guys Coming down from 145-150+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfordmatlock Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I know the focus is on the front runners, but I just heard a rumor that the #5 ranked Denton is out this weekend at minimum. Any news on this or is it just rumor? If it is true it would be a shame as a small school like that rarely sends kids let alone places... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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