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    ontherise219 got a reaction from sudden death 7 in merrillville vs valpo   
    Merrillville 40 Valpo 20 from what I heard but nothing in the paper
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    ontherise219 reacted to hook and half in Conversation with 1954 State Champion, Vernon Rohr of Lafayette Jefferson   
    Ask any Indiana high school wrestlers from the 1950's what the greatest rivalry between two grapplers was and they will likely point you to the heavyweight match-ups between Vernon Rohr of Lafayette Jefferson and Bill Trainer of Evansville Mater Dei. The following contains excerpts from "We are MD...A History of Mater Dei Wrestling" and conversations I had with Vernon Rohr.

    Entering the 1953 State Championship, Mater Dei coach, Gus Peters, was concerned about the readiness of Bill Trainer. Trainer was undefeated entering the State Meet, and had only been pushed a couple of times. Consequently, Coach Gus Peters was concerned about Trainer’s mental and physical toughness. Trainer’s first round opponent was Tony Corrado of Howe Military Academy. Trainer won, 8-0. In the round of four, Trainer advanced to the final by virtue of a 6-0 win over Kokomo’s Blaine Merrell.

    Trainer’s title opponent, Vernon Rohr of Lafayette Jefferson, was also undefeated. The pair was amazingly similar in physique. Rohr tipped the scales at 192 pounds, only giving him a two-pound advantage over Trainer.

    “I wore 32-inch waist pants,” said Vernon Rohr. “I was all upper body and legs. We (Trainer and Rohr) were mirror images.”

    The two were the smallest heavyweights in the field. Rohr had redemption on his mind. In 1952, as a sophomore, Rohr contracted pneumonia. Rohr’s doctor advised against wrestling and gave him a shot of penicillin. His physical state diminished, Rohr entered the sectional and managed to advance to the final against Crawfordsville’s Keith Stephens, but lost by decision. Stephens proceeded to place third at the State Meet. Rohr had an uncle who resided in Bloomington and attended the sectional to scout his potential opponents.

    “He called me and said ‘This Trainer kid is really good,’” said Rohr. “I had never heard of Evansville Mater Dei. How good could they be?”

    Moments before the match, Trainer was extremely nervous.

    “I feel shaky and weak,” said Trainer to coach Gus Peters. “I’m not sure I can even wrestle.”

    The title match was the closest of Trainer’s State Series tournament. The first period did not yield a score.

    “Trainer was terrible on his feet,” said Rohr. “At that time, I was too. Trainer liked to tie up.”

    Rohr won the toss and got on the scoreboard first with a reversal and rode Trainer most of the period before Trainer scored an escape before the buzzer to make it 2-1. Trainer chose down in the third period and promptly reversed Rohr, followed by a quick escape by Rohr.

    With time winding down and the score knotted at 3-3, Lafayette Jeff’s coaches made a crucial error.

    “They yelled ‘You’ve got him on riding time,’” said Rohr. “I stayed away and thought I had the match.”

    The riding time was not counted, throwing the outcome to a referee’s decision. The head referee conferred with the two side judges. With tension mounting, the referee slowly walked back to the center of the mat, clasped each wrestler’s wrist and raised Trainer’s hand. A winner by referee’s decision, Bill Trainer became Mater Dei’s first State Champion.

    “It was also a great moment for dad,” said Donald Peters, Gus’ son. “He was very proud of Trainer.”

    It was a rough day for the Lafayette Jeff coaching staff.

    “It was really tough on my coaches,” said Rohr. “They took it very hard.”

    For Vernon Rohr, the loss triggered a 365-day march.

    “From that night (the evening of the loss) on, I wrestled Trainer every night (in my mind),” Rohr said. “It was a mountain to climb. I had lost one match in two years, and it was on a referee’s decision.”

    Rohr trained hard for the meeting.

    “I didn’t get much competition my senior year,” he said. “Purdue’s wrestling coach, Claude Reek, contacted me and asked if I wanted to train with them. I worked on a lot of wrestling from my feet. A Purdue guy I trained with was the Big Ten champ that year. Another guy was runner-up in the NCAAs. From then on, no one could compete with me from my feet. That was the push I needed.”

    Still stung over the crucial, 1953 coaching mistake, the Lafayette Jeff staff allowed no room for error.

    “The night before the tournament,” said Rohr. “My coach called my mom and said ‘I’d like to have Vern come and spend the night with me, I don’t want him going out with his girl tonight.’ It didn’t happen. Mom made sure that I stayed at home.”

    Lafayette Jefferson High School was packed for the State Championship on February 20. Bill Trainer opened his day with a 10-2 win over Smock of Broad Ripple. South Bend Central’s Ed Nailon fell to Trainer in the semifinal, 9-3.

    Trainer's win guaranteed a rematch with Rohr, the most-anticipated one of the tournament. The State Champ against the runner-up—the pair having only produced a single loss between them in two seasons.

    Rohr’s off-season work from his feet paid off, as he scored a quick, first period takedown and a third period reversal for a 4-1 win. It was Trainer’s first loss since his sophomore year.

    “Dad was bitter about Trainer’s loss,” said Donald Peters, Gus’ son. “Bill had a girlfriend that he spent a lot of time with. Dad did not approve. He thought that you needed to stay home, go to bed early and train hard; there would be time for a girlfriend when the season was over.”

    Author’s Notes: Calendar-wise, Bill Trainer’s winning streak is the second-longest in Mater Dei’s history. Had Trainer won the 1954 State Title, he would have equaled Matt Coughlin’s winning streak of two entire seasons. When Matt Coughlin’s hand was raised in 2005 at Indianapolis’ Conseco Field house, signifying his second consecutive State Championship, Trainer’s 51 year-old record was broken.

    ***

    Trainer was recruited by many colleges, including Indiana University, to play football and wrestle. He opted to join the Marine Corps.

    Having found only one person who attended the Trainer/Rohr match-ups, I felt compelled to learn a more complete accounting of one of Mater Dei’s greatest champions. As a result, Vernon Rohr was the only Mater Dei antagonist interviewed for this book. The effort to find and interview him was rewarded in spades. I called him, introduced myself and told him of my project. I asked him if he remembered a guy named Bill Trainer. The question was followed by a pregnant pause, then the reply: “You bet I do!” The 78-year-old Rohr lives with his wife in Greenwood, Indiana. I found him to be genial, gracious and an engaging storyteller.

    The similarities between Rohr and Trainer are startling. Both were undersized heavyweights with huge hands and tremendous physical strength. Both were outstanding tackles on their respective football teams. Rohr was recruited to wrestle and play football at Notre Dame, Michigan, Purdue and Iowa. Like Trainer, he opted out of college. Neither Rohr nor Trainer produced any sons; in this category, Rohr possesses a slight edge. Rohr sired four daughters while Trainer claimed three.

    Rohr eventually attended Purdue University and became a successful entrepreneur. In 2011, a granddaughter attending Lafayette Jeff High School called him.

    “Grandpa!” she said excitedly. “You’re in the Hall of Fame.”

    Unbeknownst to him, he had indeed been inducted into the Lafayette Jeff Athletic Hall of Fame. 60 years, or 22,000 days, have followed the Trainer/Rohr match-ups.

    Bill Trainer is still on Vernon Rohr’s mind.

    “A least once a week it happens,” said Rohr. “You know how when you go to bed and you are about half asleep? It comes to mind. When it happens, there is no getting back to sleep. I rehash it. It takes me about 30 minutes to wind down and go back to sleep.”

    Rohr recalled to me, in splendid detail, his 1953 loss to Trainer. However, the minutia of his 1954 State Championship win over Bill Trainer is not part of his conscience. He was not even sure of the final score of his greatest victory. So goes the life of a wrestler…

    Click here to view the article
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    ontherise219 reacted to ontherise219 in Harvest Classic   
    Some possible match ups SS rankings included
    106: triana(2) Bautista(3) cavanaugh(4) poynter(6)
    113: hildebrant(1) Rodriguez(2)
    120: reitz(1) black(2) slates(4)
    126: torres(1) colza(5)
    132: truver(3) Joseph(6) selis(8)
    138: fattore(1) beam(2)
    145: lawrence(1) Krzyston(3)
    152: swank(2) Gonzalez
    160: christenson(5) prentice(6) larson(7)
    170: sopko(1) mammolenti(2)
    182: osborn(1) kleimola(4) Guerrero(8)
    195: woods(1) hedrick(2) fowler(5) zamora(8)
    220: Schultz
    285: Hopkins Christman Murillo
    Some possible match ups SS rankings included
    106: triana(2) Bautista(3) cavanaugh(4) poynter(6)
    113: hildebrant(1) Rodriguez(2)
    120: reitz(1) black(2) slates(4)
    126: torres(1) colza(5)
    132: truver(3) Joseph(6) selis(8)
    138: fattore(1) beam(2)
    145: lawrence(1) Krzyston(3)
    152: swank(2) Gonzalez
    160: christenson(5) prentice(6) larson(7)
    170: sopko(1) mammolenti(2)
    182: osborn(1) kleimola(4) Guerrero(8)
    195: woods(1) hedrick(2) fowler(5) zamora(8)
    220: Schultz
    285: Hopkins Christman Murillo
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    ontherise219 reacted to jchas in NC Semi-State Rankings   
    If you really want rankings.  Have all the teams post there wins and losses on the board.  Not the team scores but all the scores.
    It would make the process so much easier!
    Or at least post your full roster.
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    ontherise219 reacted to Cosgrove in Harvest Classic   
    Yes oh yes harvest is in four more days
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    ontherise219 reacted to NICfan in Merrillville Semi State Rankings   
    What happened to Laughlin? Was it just an oversight when moving people around or something else?
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    ontherise219 got a reaction from Hornet Coach in Who's the top 106 this year?   
    Or Murphy from warren central
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    ontherise219 reacted to BClark in Fort Wayne Semi-State Rankings   
    Saturday at the Wawasee Duals: Whitko senior Zach Baughman went undefeated at 5-0 including a win over Columbia City's Tristan Anglin 4-3.
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    ontherise219 got a reaction from FASTMarine in Who's the top 106 this year?   
    Or Murphy from warren central
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    ontherise219 reacted to zachpierson in New Castle Thanks giving   
    Not as easy as you thought huh jchas. Looks like hse will have their best year ever
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    ontherise219 reacted to PAJDZIK135 in War on the Wabash   
    Seth Meyer from Harrison dropped a 5-4 match to Goshen
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    ontherise219 reacted to fcwrestler in New Castle Thanks giving   
    Luster from FC will be at 113
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    ontherise219 reacted to nosoccermomhere in New Castle Thanks giving   
    He feels great at 138#.  It will be a fun weight class to watch. Good luck to all competitors!
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    ontherise219 reacted to wrestler60160 in New Castle SS   
    So Howie will be the Asst. Rankings guy? It's hard to believe that Zack walked away from a pay check that size....lol.
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    ontherise219 reacted to SWINfan in Evansville Semi State Rankings   
    One note at 126:  Griffin Schermer finished 5th at State last year and beat Alex Johnson 2 out of their 3 matches (SS and State).
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    ontherise219 reacted to jchas in Notable matches 11-22   
    Stansberry over Timberman in a even match.  Stansberry won on penalty point.
    I would have liked to see it go into overtime!
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    ontherise219 reacted to bluemonster in Capitol City Classic   
    I thought Perry looked strong from top to bottom. Very impressed w Brett Johnson, he seems to get stronger as the match goes on! Freshman Noah Warren did not disappoint in his debut, all falls I believe. Uk downing #7 McGee, another senior waiting his turn after being behind James and Cottey in past years. TONTE picked up where he left off last year. Johnson Korvah, very solid program kid.
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    ontherise219 reacted to FASTMarine in Noticeably Absent on 11/22   
    Klayton wasnt able to make weight. Not to make any excuses but being a type I Diabetic he has never "dropped weight" before. The 1st being the Grand river rumble and later IHPO. Obviously Klay's health is the most important thing to his family and coaches. His exercise, weight & blood sugar are closely monitored and he should be good to go vs Avon next week.
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    ontherise219 got a reaction from Drewsgma in Northern Indiana Challenge   
    Black Crary Cauffman at 120 should be a good weight
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    ontherise219 got a reaction from zachpierson in Notable matches 11-22   
    I was at the NiC today and saw some solid matches
    106- Triana d dembrowski. 7-0
    Friday night. Triana d dembrowski Ot
    113 franklin d cody Crary 6-4 OT
    126 Jason Crary wins over dembrowski(2) and raypole
    220 Meyers d kukurongya Valpo 5-3
    Just some notables I also saw
    113 Holmes d white 5-4
    126 uk d McGee
    132 James d McKinney( mckinney d Vaughn)
    152 Johnson d smiley and Herrick
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    ontherise219 reacted to TripleB in Evansville Semi State Rankings   
    Pre-season rankings complete, I see the difference in weights between state rankings and SS rankings. I'll work on that next week. I'm working on getting clarifications on some things. 
     
    post here anything that jumps out, or you can always email me at dubentz@gmail.com
     
    Link
    http://indianamat.com/index.php/page/individual_rankings.html/_/evansville-pre-season-semi-state-rankings-r6
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    ontherise219 reacted to GrecoCoach in New Foxcatcher Trailer   
    I'm thinking you should do one of your Google Hangouts during it with the camera pointed at the screen
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    ontherise219 reacted to M109R in Harvest Classic   
    Your right(good memory ) Osborn's backup Mitch Slatton wrestled. I believe he beat Sopko and was state ranked afterward.
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    ontherise219 got a reaction from leggin89 in Harvest Classic   
    I think adding portage brings a lot of depth to the tourney with penn being down a couple guys from football I think it will be closer then last year.
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    ontherise219 reacted to LCHSCoachAlb in Harvest Classic   
    Harvest Classic, December 6th @ LCHS
     
    Andrean, Brother Rice, Calumet, Griffith, Hammond Clark, Hammond Morton, Hanover, Highland, Hobart, Lake Central, Lake Station, McCutcheon, Portage, Penn, River Forest, and South Bend Washington (16)
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