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I totally agree it can be done if everyone works together. I was just trying to state there are different dynamics between schools the sizes of AC (374 kids)  and Brownsburg (2643). Different opportunities as well, good and bad. I feel we are lucky to have our student athletes be able to participate in multiple sports. 3 of my wrestlers were recognized on some level for All State in football.  I had 80% of my HS wrestlers playing a fall sport. Not sure if Brownsburg had that many or not. The challenges are different, that is what I was getting at. 
We had 3 kids in our normal varsity line up not play a fall sport. of those, one was a first year wrestler that was the only kid I could find in the high school that could make 106 and another had played football up until his this year. 
Those kids that play multiple sports at the 6A level are just plain athletes and will compete in which ever sport they choose to participate. 
Not trying to argue, just stating that there are inherent challenges that we have to overcome to be competitive. 
Tony Currie

I have not read the entire thread, so if I missed it I apologize...
With the implementation a classed dual state championship, that allows for small schools to be celebrated, why have numbers continued to fall? 

132 Asa Garcia from Avon has accepted!

Before I get.... "but your kid goes to a big school"!!! Please note that I spent many years creating opportunities and leading teams for kids from all over the state to wrestle on the national stage as youths. I really want to see every kid that wants to go to college to wrestle to do so. I am just giving my best advice to help. And.. I get that national trips are expensive and getting national exposure is expensive in general. with that said, please see number 7. Start a GoFundMe, ask your local club, ask family, etc... 
Dang it Joe!!! I couldn't even get my disclaimer out before you busted me out!!!! 
Really.. I am just trying to put out some heart felt advice.
Other advice for small town kids.... Get ahold of Bryan Bailey and get to a national event. He has spots for you. 

Until this year my son was a one time state qualifier that got pinned on Friday night. He still got a good number offers from schools from all divisions of college wrestling. Sure high school wrestling helps, but I assure you that coaches look at WAY more than that. Get in the car and go find good kids to beat. Regardless of where you finish at high school state, if you go to a major tourney or a good dual and show out your email and phone will blow up. I assure you that 20 times as many college coaches are at super 32, flonationals, Virginia beach, Fargo, National duals, and even Disney duals. Go there and make a statement. 
True story.. I took  team to Disney duals this year. My team went out there and warmed up by themselves. It was a nice hard warm up. Very few teams were moving and getting after it like we were. We were not in an All star division mind you. I hade three college coaches before we wrestled come up and give me cards and ask who was uncommitted before we wrestled a match. I has Jalen Comer form Mooresville on my team. I pointed him out to a JUCO coach. The kid was preparing to enter the work force after high school. Long story short he signed with that team! Jaden did get 4th at state. 
Another one.. Sam Osho from Avon. Sam was committed to go into the military after high school. I asked Sam if he would hold off and keep wrestling and come to Disney duals with the team. He started to go with Mason Miranda to workouts at Marian. The nest thing you know Sam is wrestling at Marian and is a NAIA national qualifier a year later. Sam never made it to state. 
With all of that said, there are different routes for all of these kids. The way you finish at state is a very small part of the college process. My biggest advice for kids that want to wrestle at the next level is as follows:
1. Take your ACT or SAT early and often. After you take them get the results and practice taking the test over and over. From the end of your sophomore year on take Khan Academy or other study programs at least 30 mins a day 5 days a week until you score high. A high SAT or ACT can make things very easy for a college to sign you.
2. Keep you GPA above a 3.5. See above.
3. Stop putting dumb crap on social media. After grades that is the next thing these guys will check. Be squeaky clean or just delete it all together.
4. Wrestle as much as possible. Surround yourselves with like minded college prospects and find good competition.   
5. Reach out to the colleges first. Let them know that you are interested in them. Keep them updated on your career. 
6. Take your time and ask questions. I assure you that you will know when its right. Look at Osho and Comer. They waited until after school and found spots. 
7. If you put in the work. Wrestle 24/7/365 and keep improving, there will be an opportunity. Believe in yourself and make it happen. Don't be too proud to ask others to help.  
BTW.. what about big school wrestlers that have big school studs in front of them in the line up. Our back up 132 just won Indy Nationals. I assure you that he wants to wrestle in college too! I works both ways.

And get a watered down medal from a tournament nobody attended.  Leave it alone.  It's the best high school event in the nation.  
If you're worried about your kid getting recruited, get to the national tournaments and do some marketing with where you want to go.  There's not a whole lot of full-ride wrestling money anyway.
Side note Joe...just IMHO a chance to "medal" is not going to be the deciding factor of whether a kid wants to wrestle or not.  You either like this sport or you don't, and no amount of hardware is going to change a kid's mind.  So forfeits won't go down simply because the tournament is classed.  The only thing that goes down is the excitement in mid-Feb.

I took a kid to a school in Michigan who told me our one class system was awesome, because you could really get an idea of the level of our kids. 
Eric Guerrero said similar things at our fall clinic a few years back.

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If our main issue is the increase in forfeits, instead of classing the schools, why don't we just eliminate a weight class or two? Seems to me that would possibly alleviate that issue than hoping if small school students see their buddies walking around with a medal it will make them want to go out?
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Not my favorite way, but I'd settle for that. I say 3 classes - Big, Small, Private.

In less then 10 years : 6 Schools    12 IHSAA State Champions 
7 IHSAA State Runner Ups 
4x IHSWCA Dual State Champions 
IHSAA Team State Champion 
3x IHSAA Team State Runner Ups 
 75- IHSAA State Medals
 
 #TheCounty  
 
Edited forgot got a Runner Up

......Annnnnnnnndddddd we have our first clinician booked!

Don't miss out next Thursday - Feb. 28th at 6PM!


 
Showing technique will be:

Silas Allred

STATE CHAMPION

2018 Cadet Folkstyle National Champion

Super 32 All-American

Fargo All-American

Ranked 5th in the Country

University of Nebraska Commit


Don't miss out and live with regrets. 
Come take a ride on the #PainTrain and get to the next level!

Snyder

Well.... a little history lesson. It was 2015 when the four founding fathers @JMILL @DLane @TeamGarciaand @Mattyb were in a really meaningless group text and came up the (numbersign)TheCounty. Since then, our area has been on a rise on the high school level (after years of success at the youth level). Some call it a coincidence, but.... the numbers don't lie.
Thank you to @Y2CJ41 for always having our backs and being our number one fan!
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Seriously... Really cool stats. Thanks for putting it all together. 

Garcia..... better be glad that MD92 was outed... He would have trolled you hard on that post ^^^^^ 

In 10 years 
9 State Champions 
4x IHSWCA Dual State Champions 
IHSAA Team State Champion 
62 State Medals 
Giving the size of Hendricks County compared to our neighbors like Marion it’s not even close. I’m pretty Proud of TheCounty of what they accomplished. The State knows Hendricks County Wrestling is a Powerhouse . When you look at the west side of Indy you know where TheCounty is . You drive around 465 or 74 and you see Avon/Brownsburg/Plainfield exits you know it’s a Wrestling County. We’re bring our best to a High School near you . “Hendricks County Westside Best”
 
The Notorious 
TheCountyPride

Fake news... I’m sure Garcia can give you an exact number but Hendricks has way more than 4. 

Everybody wish Jim Tonte a happy birthday

Pretty good job by @Sig40 on last years rankings 

Man, I really hate it when families decide to move for a better future for everyone. Not sure why am MD fan would be upset...🙄🙄

I like this story. He may or may not have had what sounds like very little previous experience in wrestling, but either way I dont find it any less impressive.  Sure we want the neat movie script version where the nuance and detail are scrubbed away in the name of the story, but life is messy and rarely ever linear. If his career record equals his 2018-19 record, like what was reported during the intro, then that's good enough for me. And even if the two are ever so slightly different, count me still impressed.

Dorian never wore a singlet in high school until this year as far I understand it.  I have never filled out the finals form for announcements, but we should have said something like “his first time wearing a singlet in high school was this year”.  His first match this year he was one locked hands from from a disqualification.  A few weeks before the sectional he asked me, “So coach how do these overtime rules work”.  He just said and asked some of the most ridiculous questions for someone having so much success.  It’s kind of an inside thing on our team and seemed to get Dorian wrestling even better...and it cracked us up because he really didn’t know the answers or why the questions were funny.   When he would ask a very basic question, guys would same something like “dude if you weren’t a rookie you would know that”.  Again, an inside thing we had going with Dorian.  Kind of had to be there. Lol. 
Snyder 

Have to admit......I entertained the idea with Silas.  But ultimately.....had I done so, I would’ve outwardly been setting an example of athletics overriding academics.  And that’s a major breach of the Allred’s household priority line.
Being fully transparent.....Regardless of my sons success through relentless hard work, I still frequently think on the “what if’s”.  He could legit be a sophomore right now and not such a young junior.  Increased accolades in-state and Nationally would undoubtedly be attained.  But ultimately....if athletics isn’t the back up plan to education/career, we’re setting our kids up for misaligned values.  Make no mistake.....Silas plans to take the sport as far as his health, work ethic and God allows.  But one reality we’ve embraced.....is that the events of tomorrow can never be fully predicted.  And in retrospect......being young for his class and having to work harder to compensate for the age gap, has likely benefited his long term success and character much more than any medal could.  And rest assured, as it pertains to the topic of age/success/recruiting......programs are very aware of an athletes age/projection. So in most instances.....being young and successful is even more appealing to recruiters.  And that “success” I refer to here.....goes far beyond what an athlete accomplishes in their particular sport.  Character & Classroom has to come first.

My son is a QB that has done camps in GA and CA with kids from all over the country. Every QB parent that I have ever talked to from California, and many from Texas, had held their kid back. I was even given a tutorial on how/when to do it. We elected to stay the course and keep him in his natural grade even though he is on the young side. It has put him at a disadvantage in some cases, but he'll be fine either way.

Brownsburg will take anyone especially from Evansville

Interesting tidbit I learned about this subject from my daughter.  We were watching the Finals on Fox Sports Indiana, and the 120 lbs group comes up.  And my daughter, who is a freshman says "Oh cool!  There's Kysen!  He was in my Spanish class.  Dad did you know that he and I have the same exact birthday?"
I reply "Oh cool, the same date?" And she responds "No, dad...the exact same day.  Like the same year.  Not the same hospital though."
So we had a choice when my daughter was entering kindergarten to either have her be one of the youngest or one of the oldest in her class, and we choose the latter.  Obviously, since Kysen is a sophomore placer, he was in the former group and could "naturally" be a freshman right now like my daughter.  But he's a 2X state placer, which is commendable due to the whole "Greyshirt / Redshirt" idea.
The funny thing was my son, who is a wrestler in 7th grade, immediately piped in with "Well, clearly Kysen's parents didn't want him to be any good in wrestling."  

Btw ... keep going