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    Perseverance got a reaction from Matdad in Worst draw   
    Great point Jeremy.  It aligns with Silas and I's philosophy to a "T".  Being fairly new to the sport of wrestling compared to many on this site (7yrs). I would grow a little more perturbed every year as I would hear parents/coaches/wrestlers complaining about draws, or hoping they had an easy road through.  I can tell you this......that was rarely an issue with the Doah coaches.  Slivka, Gary Jr & Sr each had a "bring it on mentality".  Being cut from that similar cloth, is a major factor of our growing so close off the mat as well.  I'll only add that Coach Barbosa has carried on that same approach. It comes natural for him being from the south side of Muncie. ?  Assistant Coach Walker is no different.
    The Allred outlook is simple......Those who worry about the draw are entertaining fear & self doubt.  Hoping for an easy path is reserved for individuals whose bartering for podium spots.  Not for those whose goal is its peak.  Cressel & Walton are both very deserving of all the recognition and success they've worked so hard for.  They're well coached and their college commitments speak for themselves.  However.....these are matches we've wanted all season.  But we'll focus on beating Moore Friday night first.
    Bottom line......We love the draw.  Awesome opportunity to make a LOUD statement!  And they'll be dealing with a hungry youngster whose well prepared, well studied, unafraid to lose.....and wrestling free with no pressure. The best 182lb'er in the State will stand on top of the podium this weekend regardless of their bracket pairings.  And it could be any 1 of 16 young men in the bracket.  We genuinely wish everyone competing a great week of practice, continued good health and to just enjoy the moment.  Go to war, have fun and score points.  Never lose sight of how much of a blessing it is to be there.
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    Perseverance got a reaction from John Vredeveld in Worst draw   
    Great point Jeremy.  It aligns with Silas and I's philosophy to a "T".  Being fairly new to the sport of wrestling compared to many on this site (7yrs). I would grow a little more perturbed every year as I would hear parents/coaches/wrestlers complaining about draws, or hoping they had an easy road through.  I can tell you this......that was rarely an issue with the Doah coaches.  Slivka, Gary Jr & Sr each had a "bring it on mentality".  Being cut from that similar cloth, is a major factor of our growing so close off the mat as well.  I'll only add that Coach Barbosa has carried on that same approach. It comes natural for him being from the south side of Muncie. ?  Assistant Coach Walker is no different.
    The Allred outlook is simple......Those who worry about the draw are entertaining fear & self doubt.  Hoping for an easy path is reserved for individuals whose bartering for podium spots.  Not for those whose goal is its peak.  Cressel & Walton are both very deserving of all the recognition and success they've worked so hard for.  They're well coached and their college commitments speak for themselves.  However.....these are matches we've wanted all season.  But we'll focus on beating Moore Friday night first.
    Bottom line......We love the draw.  Awesome opportunity to make a LOUD statement!  And they'll be dealing with a hungry youngster whose well prepared, well studied, unafraid to lose.....and wrestling free with no pressure. The best 182lb'er in the State will stand on top of the podium this weekend regardless of their bracket pairings.  And it could be any 1 of 16 young men in the bracket.  We genuinely wish everyone competing a great week of practice, continued good health and to just enjoy the moment.  Go to war, have fun and score points.  Never lose sight of how much of a blessing it is to be there.
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    Perseverance got a reaction from mDL in Worst draw   
    Great point Jeremy.  It aligns with Silas and I's philosophy to a "T".  Being fairly new to the sport of wrestling compared to many on this site (7yrs). I would grow a little more perturbed every year as I would hear parents/coaches/wrestlers complaining about draws, or hoping they had an easy road through.  I can tell you this......that was rarely an issue with the Doah coaches.  Slivka, Gary Jr & Sr each had a "bring it on mentality".  Being cut from that similar cloth, is a major factor of our growing so close off the mat as well.  I'll only add that Coach Barbosa has carried on that same approach. It comes natural for him being from the south side of Muncie. ?  Assistant Coach Walker is no different.
    The Allred outlook is simple......Those who worry about the draw are entertaining fear & self doubt.  Hoping for an easy path is reserved for individuals whose bartering for podium spots.  Not for those whose goal is its peak.  Cressel & Walton are both very deserving of all the recognition and success they've worked so hard for.  They're well coached and their college commitments speak for themselves.  However.....these are matches we've wanted all season.  But we'll focus on beating Moore Friday night first.
    Bottom line......We love the draw.  Awesome opportunity to make a LOUD statement!  And they'll be dealing with a hungry youngster whose well prepared, well studied, unafraid to lose.....and wrestling free with no pressure. The best 182lb'er in the State will stand on top of the podium this weekend regardless of their bracket pairings.  And it could be any 1 of 16 young men in the bracket.  We genuinely wish everyone competing a great week of practice, continued good health and to just enjoy the moment.  Go to war, have fun and score points.  Never lose sight of how much of a blessing it is to be there.
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    Perseverance reacted to grappleapple in Worst draw   
    The first round draws aren't so bad here, but 182 is loaded on one side of the bracket. You have No. 1 Walton, No. 2 Cressell and No. 3 Allred all right there together.
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    Perseverance reacted to 3xStateChamp in Worst draw   
    Pistol is “blind” in one eye cause of that rascal Wyoming Cowboy mascot shot my eye out with a with a 357 magnum. That’s way Pistol always mean mugging everybody.  Pistol was quick on the trigger with a quick “draw” Custom made Colt 45 (not the drink fellas, I’m quick at that to) shot that wannabe fake mascot rascal of Pistol drop dead. Woooooo .... Bang ! Bang ! Bang !
    The Great John Smith says Congrats and Goodluck to all the IHSAA State Finalists ! 
    Pistol Pete 
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    Perseverance reacted to maligned in Worst draw   
    Because of that loaded bracket, if rankings hold true, Brenden Moore or Jamari Washington would have to beat #'s 1, 2, and 3 before facing #4 in the state championship. Not sure it can be statistically harder than that to have a tougher road!!
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    Perseverance reacted to Y2CJ41 in State Brackets: State Finals   
    Sectional: State Finals
    Click here for brackets
    Other Info: Friday, Feb. 16, 2018 First Round | 6 pm ET (Gates open at 4:30 pm ET)
    Saturday, Feb. 17, 2018 Quarterfinals | 9:30 am ET with semifinals to follow (Gates open at 8 am ET) Consolations | 5 pm ET (Gates open at 4 pm ET) Finals | 7:30 pm ET

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    Perseverance got a reaction from devildog47959 in If wrestling was a class sport........   
    Speaking solely from a 1A selfish standpoint.  If wrestling became classed......I'd likely transfer my son to a larger school.  Because in my opinion.....without a "Tournament of Champions", most of the time kids from the larger schools would be perceived as better.  Yes......I realize national accolades would separate a wrestlers worth to recruiters.  However....I personally feel a 1 class system is one of the beauties of this sport here at home.
    In regards to a wrestler becoming more successful......they simply need to have the hunger & drive to accomplish those things.  My personal feeling......is that there is no difference between a kid at a small school vs a kid at a larger school in regards to becoming "elite".  You have the same opportunities at open rooms, club training, ISWA events, national events, etc.  Ultimately it's a choice.  How hard is a kid willing to work on & off the mat at ALL the attributes that define a great athlete.....and not just someone whose athletic.  Now, becoming "good" is a different story.  
    Having better practice partners in season, larger room (more partners), wrestling a tougher schedule, etc., will all play a factor in kids who primarily wrestle from Nov to Jan/Feb. in distancing themselves from peers at smaller programs.  But that's a much different animal than truly pursuing future wrestling goals.
    Ill be the first to admit I don't have all the answers.  And I'm sure it could possibly help grow the sport some on a lower level.  But I'm fairly confident that "classing" things would create an influx of your better wrestlers (including youth) beginning to gravitate more towards larger programs.  Again....this is just my perspective on one facet of "class wrestling".  I understand that there are other angles that I've not spoken on.  But ultimately.....this is an individual sport within a team concept.  So weakening competition so more kids can be successful who aren't putting in the work.....seems counter-productive to everything this sport stands for. Of which....is a major reason an old baseball guy like me has fallen in love with it.  No excuses....and nobody to blame but the man in the mirror.  
     
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    Perseverance got a reaction from Kookie953 in If wrestling was a class sport........   
    Speaking solely from a 1A selfish standpoint.  If wrestling became classed......I'd likely transfer my son to a larger school.  Because in my opinion.....without a "Tournament of Champions", most of the time kids from the larger schools would be perceived as better.  Yes......I realize national accolades would separate a wrestlers worth to recruiters.  However....I personally feel a 1 class system is one of the beauties of this sport here at home.
    In regards to a wrestler becoming more successful......they simply need to have the hunger & drive to accomplish those things.  My personal feeling......is that there is no difference between a kid at a small school vs a kid at a larger school in regards to becoming "elite".  You have the same opportunities at open rooms, club training, ISWA events, national events, etc.  Ultimately it's a choice.  How hard is a kid willing to work on & off the mat at ALL the attributes that define a great athlete.....and not just someone whose athletic.  Now, becoming "good" is a different story.  
    Having better practice partners in season, larger room (more partners), wrestling a tougher schedule, etc., will all play a factor in kids who primarily wrestle from Nov to Jan/Feb. in distancing themselves from peers at smaller programs.  But that's a much different animal than truly pursuing future wrestling goals.
    Ill be the first to admit I don't have all the answers.  And I'm sure it could possibly help grow the sport some on a lower level.  But I'm fairly confident that "classing" things would create an influx of your better wrestlers (including youth) beginning to gravitate more towards larger programs.  Again....this is just my perspective on one facet of "class wrestling".  I understand that there are other angles that I've not spoken on.  But ultimately.....this is an individual sport within a team concept.  So weakening competition so more kids can be successful who aren't putting in the work.....seems counter-productive to everything this sport stands for. Of which....is a major reason an old baseball guy like me has fallen in love with it.  No excuses....and nobody to blame but the man in the mirror.  
     
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    Perseverance got a reaction from Raven27 in If wrestling was a class sport........   
    Speaking solely from a 1A selfish standpoint.  If wrestling became classed......I'd likely transfer my son to a larger school.  Because in my opinion.....without a "Tournament of Champions", most of the time kids from the larger schools would be perceived as better.  Yes......I realize national accolades would separate a wrestlers worth to recruiters.  However....I personally feel a 1 class system is one of the beauties of this sport here at home.
    In regards to a wrestler becoming more successful......they simply need to have the hunger & drive to accomplish those things.  My personal feeling......is that there is no difference between a kid at a small school vs a kid at a larger school in regards to becoming "elite".  You have the same opportunities at open rooms, club training, ISWA events, national events, etc.  Ultimately it's a choice.  How hard is a kid willing to work on & off the mat at ALL the attributes that define a great athlete.....and not just someone whose athletic.  Now, becoming "good" is a different story.  
    Having better practice partners in season, larger room (more partners), wrestling a tougher schedule, etc., will all play a factor in kids who primarily wrestle from Nov to Jan/Feb. in distancing themselves from peers at smaller programs.  But that's a much different animal than truly pursuing future wrestling goals.
    Ill be the first to admit I don't have all the answers.  And I'm sure it could possibly help grow the sport some on a lower level.  But I'm fairly confident that "classing" things would create an influx of your better wrestlers (including youth) beginning to gravitate more towards larger programs.  Again....this is just my perspective on one facet of "class wrestling".  I understand that there are other angles that I've not spoken on.  But ultimately.....this is an individual sport within a team concept.  So weakening competition so more kids can be successful who aren't putting in the work.....seems counter-productive to everything this sport stands for. Of which....is a major reason an old baseball guy like me has fallen in love with it.  No excuses....and nobody to blame but the man in the mirror.  
     
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    Perseverance got a reaction from bomber_bob in If wrestling was a class sport........   
    Speaking solely from a 1A selfish standpoint.  If wrestling became classed......I'd likely transfer my son to a larger school.  Because in my opinion.....without a "Tournament of Champions", most of the time kids from the larger schools would be perceived as better.  Yes......I realize national accolades would separate a wrestlers worth to recruiters.  However....I personally feel a 1 class system is one of the beauties of this sport here at home.
    In regards to a wrestler becoming more successful......they simply need to have the hunger & drive to accomplish those things.  My personal feeling......is that there is no difference between a kid at a small school vs a kid at a larger school in regards to becoming "elite".  You have the same opportunities at open rooms, club training, ISWA events, national events, etc.  Ultimately it's a choice.  How hard is a kid willing to work on & off the mat at ALL the attributes that define a great athlete.....and not just someone whose athletic.  Now, becoming "good" is a different story.  
    Having better practice partners in season, larger room (more partners), wrestling a tougher schedule, etc., will all play a factor in kids who primarily wrestle from Nov to Jan/Feb. in distancing themselves from peers at smaller programs.  But that's a much different animal than truly pursuing future wrestling goals.
    Ill be the first to admit I don't have all the answers.  And I'm sure it could possibly help grow the sport some on a lower level.  But I'm fairly confident that "classing" things would create an influx of your better wrestlers (including youth) beginning to gravitate more towards larger programs.  Again....this is just my perspective on one facet of "class wrestling".  I understand that there are other angles that I've not spoken on.  But ultimately.....this is an individual sport within a team concept.  So weakening competition so more kids can be successful who aren't putting in the work.....seems counter-productive to everything this sport stands for. Of which....is a major reason an old baseball guy like me has fallen in love with it.  No excuses....and nobody to blame but the man in the mirror.  
     
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    Perseverance got a reaction from base in If wrestling was a class sport........   
    Speaking solely from a 1A selfish standpoint.  If wrestling became classed......I'd likely transfer my son to a larger school.  Because in my opinion.....without a "Tournament of Champions", most of the time kids from the larger schools would be perceived as better.  Yes......I realize national accolades would separate a wrestlers worth to recruiters.  However....I personally feel a 1 class system is one of the beauties of this sport here at home.
    In regards to a wrestler becoming more successful......they simply need to have the hunger & drive to accomplish those things.  My personal feeling......is that there is no difference between a kid at a small school vs a kid at a larger school in regards to becoming "elite".  You have the same opportunities at open rooms, club training, ISWA events, national events, etc.  Ultimately it's a choice.  How hard is a kid willing to work on & off the mat at ALL the attributes that define a great athlete.....and not just someone whose athletic.  Now, becoming "good" is a different story.  
    Having better practice partners in season, larger room (more partners), wrestling a tougher schedule, etc., will all play a factor in kids who primarily wrestle from Nov to Jan/Feb. in distancing themselves from peers at smaller programs.  But that's a much different animal than truly pursuing future wrestling goals.
    Ill be the first to admit I don't have all the answers.  And I'm sure it could possibly help grow the sport some on a lower level.  But I'm fairly confident that "classing" things would create an influx of your better wrestlers (including youth) beginning to gravitate more towards larger programs.  Again....this is just my perspective on one facet of "class wrestling".  I understand that there are other angles that I've not spoken on.  But ultimately.....this is an individual sport within a team concept.  So weakening competition so more kids can be successful who aren't putting in the work.....seems counter-productive to everything this sport stands for. Of which....is a major reason an old baseball guy like me has fallen in love with it.  No excuses....and nobody to blame but the man in the mirror.  
     
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    Perseverance got a reaction from Juggernaut in If wrestling was a class sport........   
    Speaking solely from a 1A selfish standpoint.  If wrestling became classed......I'd likely transfer my son to a larger school.  Because in my opinion.....without a "Tournament of Champions", most of the time kids from the larger schools would be perceived as better.  Yes......I realize national accolades would separate a wrestlers worth to recruiters.  However....I personally feel a 1 class system is one of the beauties of this sport here at home.
    In regards to a wrestler becoming more successful......they simply need to have the hunger & drive to accomplish those things.  My personal feeling......is that there is no difference between a kid at a small school vs a kid at a larger school in regards to becoming "elite".  You have the same opportunities at open rooms, club training, ISWA events, national events, etc.  Ultimately it's a choice.  How hard is a kid willing to work on & off the mat at ALL the attributes that define a great athlete.....and not just someone whose athletic.  Now, becoming "good" is a different story.  
    Having better practice partners in season, larger room (more partners), wrestling a tougher schedule, etc., will all play a factor in kids who primarily wrestle from Nov to Jan/Feb. in distancing themselves from peers at smaller programs.  But that's a much different animal than truly pursuing future wrestling goals.
    Ill be the first to admit I don't have all the answers.  And I'm sure it could possibly help grow the sport some on a lower level.  But I'm fairly confident that "classing" things would create an influx of your better wrestlers (including youth) beginning to gravitate more towards larger programs.  Again....this is just my perspective on one facet of "class wrestling".  I understand that there are other angles that I've not spoken on.  But ultimately.....this is an individual sport within a team concept.  So weakening competition so more kids can be successful who aren't putting in the work.....seems counter-productive to everything this sport stands for. Of which....is a major reason an old baseball guy like me has fallen in love with it.  No excuses....and nobody to blame but the man in the mirror.  
     
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    Perseverance got a reaction from Juggernaut in Toughest semi-state???   
    Top 5's by Semi-State
    New Castle) 22
    Evansville) 21
    Ft Wayne) 8
    East Chicago) 20
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    Perseverance got a reaction from Cosgrove in If wrestling was a class sport........   
    Speaking solely from a 1A selfish standpoint.  If wrestling became classed......I'd likely transfer my son to a larger school.  Because in my opinion.....without a "Tournament of Champions", most of the time kids from the larger schools would be perceived as better.  Yes......I realize national accolades would separate a wrestlers worth to recruiters.  However....I personally feel a 1 class system is one of the beauties of this sport here at home.
    In regards to a wrestler becoming more successful......they simply need to have the hunger & drive to accomplish those things.  My personal feeling......is that there is no difference between a kid at a small school vs a kid at a larger school in regards to becoming "elite".  You have the same opportunities at open rooms, club training, ISWA events, national events, etc.  Ultimately it's a choice.  How hard is a kid willing to work on & off the mat at ALL the attributes that define a great athlete.....and not just someone whose athletic.  Now, becoming "good" is a different story.  
    Having better practice partners in season, larger room (more partners), wrestling a tougher schedule, etc., will all play a factor in kids who primarily wrestle from Nov to Jan/Feb. in distancing themselves from peers at smaller programs.  But that's a much different animal than truly pursuing future wrestling goals.
    Ill be the first to admit I don't have all the answers.  And I'm sure it could possibly help grow the sport some on a lower level.  But I'm fairly confident that "classing" things would create an influx of your better wrestlers (including youth) beginning to gravitate more towards larger programs.  Again....this is just my perspective on one facet of "class wrestling".  I understand that there are other angles that I've not spoken on.  But ultimately.....this is an individual sport within a team concept.  So weakening competition so more kids can be successful who aren't putting in the work.....seems counter-productive to everything this sport stands for. Of which....is a major reason an old baseball guy like me has fallen in love with it.  No excuses....and nobody to blame but the man in the mirror.  
     
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    Perseverance got a reaction from wchew20 in If wrestling was a class sport........   
    Speaking solely from a 1A selfish standpoint.  If wrestling became classed......I'd likely transfer my son to a larger school.  Because in my opinion.....without a "Tournament of Champions", most of the time kids from the larger schools would be perceived as better.  Yes......I realize national accolades would separate a wrestlers worth to recruiters.  However....I personally feel a 1 class system is one of the beauties of this sport here at home.
    In regards to a wrestler becoming more successful......they simply need to have the hunger & drive to accomplish those things.  My personal feeling......is that there is no difference between a kid at a small school vs a kid at a larger school in regards to becoming "elite".  You have the same opportunities at open rooms, club training, ISWA events, national events, etc.  Ultimately it's a choice.  How hard is a kid willing to work on & off the mat at ALL the attributes that define a great athlete.....and not just someone whose athletic.  Now, becoming "good" is a different story.  
    Having better practice partners in season, larger room (more partners), wrestling a tougher schedule, etc., will all play a factor in kids who primarily wrestle from Nov to Jan/Feb. in distancing themselves from peers at smaller programs.  But that's a much different animal than truly pursuing future wrestling goals.
    Ill be the first to admit I don't have all the answers.  And I'm sure it could possibly help grow the sport some on a lower level.  But I'm fairly confident that "classing" things would create an influx of your better wrestlers (including youth) beginning to gravitate more towards larger programs.  Again....this is just my perspective on one facet of "class wrestling".  I understand that there are other angles that I've not spoken on.  But ultimately.....this is an individual sport within a team concept.  So weakening competition so more kids can be successful who aren't putting in the work.....seems counter-productive to everything this sport stands for. Of which....is a major reason an old baseball guy like me has fallen in love with it.  No excuses....and nobody to blame but the man in the mirror.  
     
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    Perseverance got a reaction from WOC in If wrestling was a class sport........   
    Speaking solely from a 1A selfish standpoint.  If wrestling became classed......I'd likely transfer my son to a larger school.  Because in my opinion.....without a "Tournament of Champions", most of the time kids from the larger schools would be perceived as better.  Yes......I realize national accolades would separate a wrestlers worth to recruiters.  However....I personally feel a 1 class system is one of the beauties of this sport here at home.
    In regards to a wrestler becoming more successful......they simply need to have the hunger & drive to accomplish those things.  My personal feeling......is that there is no difference between a kid at a small school vs a kid at a larger school in regards to becoming "elite".  You have the same opportunities at open rooms, club training, ISWA events, national events, etc.  Ultimately it's a choice.  How hard is a kid willing to work on & off the mat at ALL the attributes that define a great athlete.....and not just someone whose athletic.  Now, becoming "good" is a different story.  
    Having better practice partners in season, larger room (more partners), wrestling a tougher schedule, etc., will all play a factor in kids who primarily wrestle from Nov to Jan/Feb. in distancing themselves from peers at smaller programs.  But that's a much different animal than truly pursuing future wrestling goals.
    Ill be the first to admit I don't have all the answers.  And I'm sure it could possibly help grow the sport some on a lower level.  But I'm fairly confident that "classing" things would create an influx of your better wrestlers (including youth) beginning to gravitate more towards larger programs.  Again....this is just my perspective on one facet of "class wrestling".  I understand that there are other angles that I've not spoken on.  But ultimately.....this is an individual sport within a team concept.  So weakening competition so more kids can be successful who aren't putting in the work.....seems counter-productive to everything this sport stands for. Of which....is a major reason an old baseball guy like me has fallen in love with it.  No excuses....and nobody to blame but the man in the mirror.  
     
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    Perseverance got a reaction from Westforkwhite in If wrestling was a class sport........   
    Speaking solely from a 1A selfish standpoint.  If wrestling became classed......I'd likely transfer my son to a larger school.  Because in my opinion.....without a "Tournament of Champions", most of the time kids from the larger schools would be perceived as better.  Yes......I realize national accolades would separate a wrestlers worth to recruiters.  However....I personally feel a 1 class system is one of the beauties of this sport here at home.
    In regards to a wrestler becoming more successful......they simply need to have the hunger & drive to accomplish those things.  My personal feeling......is that there is no difference between a kid at a small school vs a kid at a larger school in regards to becoming "elite".  You have the same opportunities at open rooms, club training, ISWA events, national events, etc.  Ultimately it's a choice.  How hard is a kid willing to work on & off the mat at ALL the attributes that define a great athlete.....and not just someone whose athletic.  Now, becoming "good" is a different story.  
    Having better practice partners in season, larger room (more partners), wrestling a tougher schedule, etc., will all play a factor in kids who primarily wrestle from Nov to Jan/Feb. in distancing themselves from peers at smaller programs.  But that's a much different animal than truly pursuing future wrestling goals.
    Ill be the first to admit I don't have all the answers.  And I'm sure it could possibly help grow the sport some on a lower level.  But I'm fairly confident that "classing" things would create an influx of your better wrestlers (including youth) beginning to gravitate more towards larger programs.  Again....this is just my perspective on one facet of "class wrestling".  I understand that there are other angles that I've not spoken on.  But ultimately.....this is an individual sport within a team concept.  So weakening competition so more kids can be successful who aren't putting in the work.....seems counter-productive to everything this sport stands for. Of which....is a major reason an old baseball guy like me has fallen in love with it.  No excuses....and nobody to blame but the man in the mirror.  
     
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    Perseverance reacted to maligned in 1A Team State Qualification Scores (unofficial through sectional)   
    Here are unofficial 1A Team State Qualification scores through sectional. They remain unofficial because Evansville semi-state teams haven't gone through a full cross-check and because we are trying to get the facts about Indianapolis Public School consolidation plans for next year that could affect the classification of a couple teams.
    Remember from previous years that 1A scores are very significant already at this stage. All of the contenders for one of the 10 automatic bids already have good scores at this point and no one will score large amounts of points from here on out.
    Rank Class 1A Teams Score Left 1 Prairie Heights 174 12 2 Attica 166 10 3 Adams Central 162 11 4 Wabash 161 10 5 Frankton 158 8 6 Eastside 154 7 7 Knightstown 153 11 8 Churubusco 152 4 9 Centerville 143 7 10 Shenandoah 141 8 11 Central Noble 139 10 12 Eastern (Pekin) 138 8 13 Boone Grove 136 6 14 North Posey 134 9 15 Milan 130 7 16 Cass 129 6 17 Southern Wells 126 5 18 Tell City 125 6 19 Elwood Community 123 5 20 Indianapolis Scecina Memorial 119 2 21 Carroll (Flora) 116 2 22 Triton 116 6 23 Triton Central 114 5 24 Lapel 113 3 25 Eastern (Greentown) 108 6 26 West Central 105 6 27 Alexandria Monroe 105 3 28 South Adams 104 7 29 Rossville 103 2 30 Lafayette Central Catholic 102 5 31 Bluffton 102 3 32 Delphi 101 1 33 Eastern Hancock 101 5 34 Madison Grant 99 4 35 North White 98 7 36 Daleville 98 6 37 River Forest 96 5 38 Seeger 95 1 39 Hagerstown 93 6 40 Cambridge City Lincoln 89 5 41 LaVille 87 5 42 North Putnam 85 1 43 Southwood 85 3 44 Winchester Community 82 5 45 South Spencer 79 5 46 Tri-Central 77 3 47 North Knox 76 5 48 Clinton Prairie 75 0 49 Crawford County 75 4 50 Lake Station Edison 74 3 51 Parke Heritage 74 2 52 Northfield 74 4 53 Hebron 73 2 54 North Newton 73 5 55 Fountain Central 73 1 56 Paoli 73 3 57 Union City 73 2 58 Sheridan 72 2 59 Cascade 72 4 60 West Washington 71 1 61 Southwestern (Hanover) 70 3 62 Monroe Central 66 3 63 Winamac Community 65 5 64 Woodlan 64 2 65 Clinton Central 63 3 66 Tecumseh 63 3 67 Northeastern 58 4 68 Union County 58 1 69 North Miami 57 2 70 North Judson-San Pierre 55 3 71 Faith Christian 52 1 72 Whiting 52 3 73 Indianapolis Lutheran 51 3 74 Providence 51 4 75 Cowan 51 4 76 Fremont 50 2 77 Frontier 49 2 78 Indianapolis Arlington 49 1 79 North Vermillion 49 2 80 Wes-Del 49 4 81 Cloverdale 48 1 82 South Putnam 48 0 83 South Newton 46 1 84 Westview 44 1 85 Indiana School for the Deaf 42 2 86 Tri 39 3 87 Caston 39 1 88 Wood Memorial 38 1 89 Mitchell 36 2 90 New Washington 36 2 91 Switzerland County 36 1 92 Forest Park 34 1 93 Covington 33 2 94 Providence Cristo Rey 32 2 95 Bremen 31 2 96 Oldenburg Academy 29 0 97 Randolph Southern 25 1 98 Pioneer 17 1 99 Indianapolis Broad Ripple Magnet 17 0 100 Wapahani 16 1 101 Taylor 14 0 102 Tri-County 9 0        
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    Perseverance got a reaction from wrestler32 in If wrestling was a class sport........   
    Speaking solely from a 1A selfish standpoint.  If wrestling became classed......I'd likely transfer my son to a larger school.  Because in my opinion.....without a "Tournament of Champions", most of the time kids from the larger schools would be perceived as better.  Yes......I realize national accolades would separate a wrestlers worth to recruiters.  However....I personally feel a 1 class system is one of the beauties of this sport here at home.
    In regards to a wrestler becoming more successful......they simply need to have the hunger & drive to accomplish those things.  My personal feeling......is that there is no difference between a kid at a small school vs a kid at a larger school in regards to becoming "elite".  You have the same opportunities at open rooms, club training, ISWA events, national events, etc.  Ultimately it's a choice.  How hard is a kid willing to work on & off the mat at ALL the attributes that define a great athlete.....and not just someone whose athletic.  Now, becoming "good" is a different story.  
    Having better practice partners in season, larger room (more partners), wrestling a tougher schedule, etc., will all play a factor in kids who primarily wrestle from Nov to Jan/Feb. in distancing themselves from peers at smaller programs.  But that's a much different animal than truly pursuing future wrestling goals.
    Ill be the first to admit I don't have all the answers.  And I'm sure it could possibly help grow the sport some on a lower level.  But I'm fairly confident that "classing" things would create an influx of your better wrestlers (including youth) beginning to gravitate more towards larger programs.  Again....this is just my perspective on one facet of "class wrestling".  I understand that there are other angles that I've not spoken on.  But ultimately.....this is an individual sport within a team concept.  So weakening competition so more kids can be successful who aren't putting in the work.....seems counter-productive to everything this sport stands for. Of which....is a major reason an old baseball guy like me has fallen in love with it.  No excuses....and nobody to blame but the man in the mirror.  
     
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    Perseverance got a reaction from Numchuck Skills in Toughest semi-state???   
    Top 5's by Semi-State
    New Castle) 22
    Evansville) 21
    Ft Wayne) 8
    East Chicago) 20
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    Perseverance reacted to Wrestling Scholar in Toughest semi-state???   
    Average Genius Sectional Score by SS
    Evansville score NC score FW score ECC score   Avon 5 Lawrence Cent 5 Carroll 5 Lafayette Jeff 5   Bloomington  North 5 Elwood 5 Elk Memorial 5 Crown point 4   Mooresville 5 Frankfort 5 Jay  County 4 Griffith 4   Castle 4 Crawford 4 New haven 4 Laporte 4   Evansville  Cent 4 Franklin County 4 Oak hill 4 E Chicago 3   Jennings  County 4 Shelby 4 Peru 4 Mishawaka 3   Jeffersonville 3 Southport 3 Delta 3 Plymouth 3   Southridge 3 Tri 3 Westview 3 Twin Lakes 3     33   33   32   29                     Average Score 4.125   4.125   4   3.625  
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    Perseverance reacted to Thor in Toughest semi-state???   
    The top ranked 120 goes through FW
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    Perseverance got a reaction from piscis1956 in Toughest semi-state???   
    Broke down by weight........
    Top 5's
                          NC.   EV.   FW.   EC. 
    106-                 2.      1.     0.      2. 
    113-                 2.      1.     1.      1.   
    120-                 3.      0.     0.      2.  
    126-                 2.      2.     0.      1.  
    132-                 2.      1.     0.      2.   
    138-                 1.      2.     1.      1. 
    145-                 2.      2.     1.      1.   
    152-                 1.      2.     0.      2.    
    160-                 1.      2.     0.      2.   
    170-                 1.      2.     1.      1.  
    182-                 1.      2.     2.      0.  
    195-                 1.      2.     1.      1.  
    220-                 3.      1.     0.      1.  
    285-                 0.      1.     1.      3. 
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    Perseverance reacted to hogleg in Toughest semi-state???   
    Topic that comes up every year.  No mean to offend anyone, just a bragging rights type thing for each semi state.  It will come up again after State to see which one brought home the most hardware 
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