Raven27

I wouldn't score the pool wrestling just the tournament correct. Could coaches change the scoring wrestler after the pools were completed?

If they had multiple kids in the same weight class how did they do the team scoring?

I think we can run it fairly quick. We now have an auxiliary gym I am hoping to have 8 mats and each round take about an hour. 5 hours with a lunch break in the middle. Getting 5 matches in and out by 2 our 3 pm. Pools 1 and 2 in a Gym and 3 and 4 in a gym for 3 rounds. Last two rounds would be 1st and 5th place brackets in a gym and 9th and 12th place in another gym. Finding 8 officials would be the hard part.

Coming up with a good schedule to meet all the needs of my wrestlers has been a struggle. We have a gap of ability difference within our team. I have been thinking about hosting a 16 team Individual tournament that would allow each wrestler to have potentially 5 matches. We would allow JV's wrestlers in spots that did not have 16 spots taken. Example one team had a forfeit at 160 but team 2 had 2 160's we would plug the jv in the 160 spot with the forfeit. Each weight class would have 4 seeded pools seed 1,16, 8, and 9 would be pool 1. Seeds 2, 15, 7, and 10 would be pool 2. Seeds 3, 6, 11 and 14 would be pool 3. Then seeds 4, 13, 12 and 5 would be pool 4. All pools would wrestle each other once giving each wrestler 3 matches. All of the the wrestlers that finished 1st would go to the 1st place bracket and wrestle 2 matches winners would wrestle winners losers wrestle losers. I think this would help meet all wrestlers needs and still give everyone the same mat time. Would any schools be interested in a tournament like this. Only Awards to individuals no Team Award given. Would love to hear feedback

No I get it. It is really hard to coach when you're not in the building for sure. I was just giving you a hard time. It would be hard to turn down an opportunity to be at a big school for many reasons.

That's why we need small town athletes staying in small towns to coach.

I thought I would join the debate since they are so fun! I think everything you have stated is true. I think small schools are at a disadvantage I think larger schools have many things that benefit them over a small school. But, I think it is sooooo special when a kid from our size school makes it! What does it mean to go to state at Warren Central, Avon, Carmel ect.... not much, there have been several go! When a Courtney Duncan, or Luke Blanton go to State and even win a State title (even at 103) They are larger than life super stars. Our kids know every State Qualifier we've had. It is a huge deal. I believe Frankton has a shrine of Courtney in their Halls! It is celebrated. If we make it class all that goes away. We all love the underdog. People go nuts when Cathedral or Crown Point or Mater Dei is upset. Thats what is fun in my opinion. If you made class those things don't happen and it's not as celebrated. I embrace the uphill battle we have and want my kids to do it as well. They will be competing for a job soon, they won't be given out by class. You better go earn it. I want my wrestlers to go out and do something special that is remembered forever. Finding the right head coach will be hard and getting good assistants is also a challenge but we are figuring out a way to do it. It's hard work but anything worth having always is. I know we are on different sides of the aisle on this but it is always nice to hear your thoughts on the matter. I truly enjoy reading and hearing the "other" sides opinions.

Central Indiana Conference uses 75, 80, 85, 90, 95, 100, Then HS weight classes.

It makes it so hard for our kids to start learning weight management when weight classes are different every meet and places don't have weigh ins. We use for our home meets 70, 75, 80, 85, 90, 95, 100, 106 through HWT are HS weights. But our County Meet is different weight classes. 70-145 by 5's 155, 180, 195, 215, and 275 for HWT. We use our conference tournament weight classes for home duals. I really like using the HS weight classes it just makes sense to me. We do the 2lb allowance like the HS season does too.

Ahead of Silas?

I don't have a problem with giving 2lbs but we weigh in before all our home meets in middle school and there have been teams that had kids in weight classes that were more than 5 and some up to 10 lbs over. I don't believe the coach was trying to cheat I really think they didn't know. Why not just weigh in and get the right weights matched up. It's not fair to a kid and for 75 lb kid 5lbs is a lot. To me it's silly to not have weigh in. If they're close but a little over no big deal.

So if they aren't on weight should they be allowed to wrestle the kid that is?

I totally agree! Why are we doing it one way in High School and making sure kids get qualifying weigh ins and are adhering to rules but in Middle School it IS THE WILD WEST. I am debating on weather or not I should schedule teams in the future that don't weigh in. I want my middle school kids to learn the rules and play by them. How to manage their weight properly without being miserable. To learn discipline ect.. Not make them do it and then wrestle a kid that is 5 pounds heavier than them. Frustrating

Why would teams not weigh in before a dual and is it common practice in middle school to not weigh in for a weekday dual?