Coach Nieman

I just want to brag on my guy a bit. Aaron Black from Greensburg placed 8th at 182 as a first year wrestler. I couldn't be more proud of the work he puts in every day. Way to go Aaron!!

I just want to brag on my guy a bit. Aaron Black from Greensburg placed 8th at 182 as a first year wrestler. I couldn't be more proud of the work he puts in every day. Way to go Aaron!!

Rose vs. Viduya as well. I thought Gavin had him when he hit the banana split

Rooks and Masconi are wrestling 38 at Super 32, I'll take both of them over both

Arms length from this issue is WAY too close!

You are describing the same level, BSU has beaten IU in football so many times IU wont schedule them now. IU isnt even on par with the upper tier MAC teams. Just like their wrestling program.

The boilers are a pretty young team too based on starting lineups I've seen. Tons of potential still

Now we've gone from calling out the integrity of the official to questioning the honor of the coach of the winning wrestler?  You guys need to really check yourselves. 

Maybe the Banker's Life ushers should crack down on seat saving. If you see a big blanket taking up multiple seats -  tell them to take it down. The people who get there early and wait in line absolutely have a right to their seat - but not seats for 15 of their friends.

I like my individuality and refuse to conform to society's norms,  but I do agree that we  need to confirm if the wrestlers get a pound tomorrow.

Mike Goebel says, mike Goebel says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.

Problem solved, Don't sell general admission.  Charge a little more for lower level and less for upper.   Im sure there's reason some silly reason we don't do it now.

Coon must have him by 50 lbs -  the only way to take him down is a low single or a chain saw

I'm just trying to get my posts up so I don't stay a regional qualifier forever. 

Wrestling will survive in a multi-class system or in a single class system.
The question is better versus best. Class wrestling seems to help develop depth this seems fairly quantifiable considering 1) surrounding states such as Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, Minnesota, Iowa, Pennsylvania, and New York are historically considered better wrestling states than Indiana; 2) it exposes more kids to college coaches, giving more student-athletes the opportunity to compete in college, gain experience, earn a degree and go back to their community and contribute to their local wrestling community. 
If wrestling wants to grow in numbers its about promotion. Does specializing in a sport hurt the overall sport? I think this is to be determined. 
Indiana is battling against history. However, wrestle-backs throughout the state tournament would help improve an already great state tournament dramatically (no intention to open pandoras box with this sentence).  It is ingrained in the fan base that they want a single class with "one true state champion." However, none of our systems are set up that way look at the NCAA. There are division I, II, III national champions as well as NAIA national champions. Depending on the size of the school even at the collegiate level they are afforded more resources and opportunities. And I highly doubt Mr. LeFever the four time national champion doesn't consider himself a "true national champion." 
The reality in life is not everyone can be doctors, or lawyers, or politicians, or professional athletes but all can optimize their potential given their specific skill set and exceed their perceived limitations. Wrestling is a sport that helps promote mental, physical, and emotional toughness and if classing the sport gives more individuals opportunities to further develop those skill sets then it should be considered. 
Also, success leads to growth. People love being part of a successful movement. If some of the smaller schools start to have more success eventually the community and students will get behind them because it is exciting to be part of a winning tradition or a foundation that leads to a winning tradition. 
One thing that I will say is special about this message board and Indiana wrestling fans in general is that they are passionate and truly want to grow the sport. As someone who has lived in Indiana, Arizona, and now Texas - I wish the great state of Texas had a community as passionate about yours as growing the sport. 
 
 
 
 

When it comes to Class wrestling there is no right or wrong. But if there is a way for more children to get into the Sport of Wrestling I am all for it. If it takes handing out ribbons and medals to every one then so be it. The Class idea isn't simply to help the "Small" schools be competitive in a watered down version of State. It also may help the larger inner City Schools attract one more guy. At the Perry regional this weekend there were several Schools barely represented that would not be in the same "Class" size wise as Perry, Roncali, Warren Central etc.  Wrestling has absolutely made a huge impact on my life personally. I would not be where I am today without it. I can assure you it wasn't easy to get my ass handed to me over and over. I wanted to kill my buddy for talking me into it. Turns out I am thrilled that he did. If there is a way to get more people into the Sport then I say please do. If there is another way then do that also.

I won't go so far asbury4040 as to insult you. I know you and you know me and I respect your opinion and I do appreciate the statement that kids are soft. I agree with that statement. I will, however, rebut by saying this. If wrestling, by itself, is a tough sport, and kids these days are soft, shouldn't we do what we can to get more kids to wrestle?
I would go so far to say that even the kids that wrestle for 4 years and never make it to state, or never win their conference, or never have a winning record, are still better off in life because they've experienced walking on the mat and going to battle one on one with another person. They gain confidence and drive by working through the daily grind. My argument is simply that more kids would wrestle and kids at small schools or even programs that can only get half of a roster together, will maybe be more driven when they can see a goal that is attainable. 

I wonder if California has a wrestling board that debates class wrestling like this

My memory may be fading but I believe the opposite happened in the Doherty-Lund match. Doherty hit that nasty headlock twice to go up big then Lund came rallying back and almost won it

Might want to pick the mic back up...
The original post stated based on high school accomplishments only.

The only thing I am scared of anymore is a fart.  That has to do with age.

Meh, my efforts failed. Wrong sequence and accidentally lost poll. I am so lame.

Lol if my girlfriend ever came down to state with me I hope she'd be okay with about 25 minutes of attention all weekend.