trackgopher

And to answer a question a question that some might have, if they know who/what I am about.  I am 100% for TW, but I am further 100% for wrestling in general.  I have watched events on Flo, their FloDocs are great.  I just would never use them.  But that is because I am who I am.  I do not hate anyone for using them.
Also one other thing to clear up, Track and Flo had a great relationship.  If you search Justin Tritz on Flo, you get an interview of the CEO of TrackWrestling.  There were some issues that occurred and Flo began Arena and the whole relationship ended.  There is much much much more to the story, but if anyone remembers events being on Flo for video and Track for administration it was working just fine. 
I am also more than willing to still run IHPO for Joe even though he is working with the dark side here.  (Hopefully I don't get thrown out again this year by a guy I have nothing but respect for).  In this instance, Joe believes that Flo has a better product and platform to show the world what Indiana has.  I disagree, but that does not mean I am right or Joe is.  No hard feelings there.
 
Last thing, if anyone is willing to teach me how to run a wrestling tournament, I would kindly accept that help.  I was told this year that I did not know how to run a wrestling tournament by a parent at Frosh-Soph State North Qualifier.  If that person wanted to show me how to run a wrestling tournament I would be more than happy to accept that training!  Just wanted to throw that out there.
-That nameless Portage guy that everyone has seen, but no one knows.

And to answer a question a question that some might have, if they know who/what I am about.  I am 100% for TW, but I am further 100% for wrestling in general.  I have watched events on Flo, their FloDocs are great.  I just would never use them.  But that is because I am who I am.  I do not hate anyone for using them.
Also one other thing to clear up, Track and Flo had a great relationship.  If you search Justin Tritz on Flo, you get an interview of the CEO of TrackWrestling.  There were some issues that occurred and Flo began Arena and the whole relationship ended.  There is much much much more to the story, but if anyone remembers events being on Flo for video and Track for administration it was working just fine. 
I am also more than willing to still run IHPO for Joe even though he is working with the dark side here.  (Hopefully I don't get thrown out again this year by a guy I have nothing but respect for).  In this instance, Joe believes that Flo has a better product and platform to show the world what Indiana has.  I disagree, but that does not mean I am right or Joe is.  No hard feelings there.
 
Last thing, if anyone is willing to teach me how to run a wrestling tournament, I would kindly accept that help.  I was told this year that I did not know how to run a wrestling tournament by a parent at Frosh-Soph State North Qualifier.  If that person wanted to show me how to run a wrestling tournament I would be more than happy to accept that training!  Just wanted to throw that out there.
-That nameless Portage guy that everyone has seen, but no one knows.

And to answer a question a question that some might have, if they know who/what I am about.  I am 100% for TW, but I am further 100% for wrestling in general.  I have watched events on Flo, their FloDocs are great.  I just would never use them.  But that is because I am who I am.  I do not hate anyone for using them.
Also one other thing to clear up, Track and Flo had a great relationship.  If you search Justin Tritz on Flo, you get an interview of the CEO of TrackWrestling.  There were some issues that occurred and Flo began Arena and the whole relationship ended.  There is much much much more to the story, but if anyone remembers events being on Flo for video and Track for administration it was working just fine. 
I am also more than willing to still run IHPO for Joe even though he is working with the dark side here.  (Hopefully I don't get thrown out again this year by a guy I have nothing but respect for).  In this instance, Joe believes that Flo has a better product and platform to show the world what Indiana has.  I disagree, but that does not mean I am right or Joe is.  No hard feelings there.
 
Last thing, if anyone is willing to teach me how to run a wrestling tournament, I would kindly accept that help.  I was told this year that I did not know how to run a wrestling tournament by a parent at Frosh-Soph State North Qualifier.  If that person wanted to show me how to run a wrestling tournament I would be more than happy to accept that training!  Just wanted to throw that out there.
-That nameless Portage guy that everyone has seen, but no one knows.

I know these aren't duals but Portage and Avon also wrestled Ohio and Michigan teams at Brecksville and both finished in the top 6 of the 48 team tournament.  Again, I know this does not fully show what both teams would do in duals, but it is still important to look at nonetheless. 

The AD at HC is a former Portage AD, probably part of the reason it is on TW, which I know I can celebrate!

There are numerous strong programs like this in the state with in-program club feeder systems. In those situations, it makes complete sense why the coach would expect to have some input or control over the off-season training of their athletes. The generalizations being made in this post of high school coaches as "part-time" and academy coaches as "professionals" are disappointing. Indiana is blessed with many high school coaches who are "good enough to make a living" at coaching and still choose to coach high school and club programs over starting or working for academies. Moreover, many of these same coaches do continue to dedicate themselves to their wrestlers (all their wrestlers, not just the ones who can afford the costs of a private academy) year-round by training and taking kids to off-season tournaments for much less than the academy coaches are earning.

This is from coach Tonte:
I don’t have an account, but this is something I wanted to make sure I said something about.  I have many friends that run academies and don’t think any of them would consider guys like us as part time coaches.  We and countless other coaches running successful programs do not consider ourselves to be part timers.

So a couple things in Re: to the streaming at the Team State Duals.  I am going to put it all together in one place since there are a couple of posts regarding videos from team state.
First, it was a hectic time as we had different camera/computer/table set ups at each table.  TrackWrestling set up a standard for using TrackCast, and unfortunately only 7 of the mats that were streamed had the full TC equipment from TW.  The week before, Mark Durham had rented TC kits (as well as used his own 6 computers) from TW for the DII grind of a tournament, Midwest Classic.  Those computers and streams had very little issues.  Unfortunately for this tournament they used some ISWA computers and video cameras that caused for some spotty video.  For those that were complaining about Mat 10 during the event, this was one of the locations where the computer/camera combo were failing us and we had to put a new setup in mid event, which hopefully helped.
The good news in this is that we streamed the event, still had many colleges looking at the videos based on the paywall, and it seems like the tournament admins want to rent video equipment from TW for next year. 
Second, the archives.  We were told that archives were not supposed to happen, unfortunately it is automatically archived on TW and when we found that out we had to contact them to stop the archiving of matches.  So this means that the first 2-3 rounds (depending on teams) are archived and available to watch for free.
This is a major college recruiting tool that has helped Indiana kids get offers from schools.  If the tournament hosts do not care, I can archive the rest of the matches. It is hard to see how this is a bad thing for our wrestlers because of scouting.  If you know anything about high school wrestling then you should know that coaches trade film to scout.  In this case, at least you have the ability to watch all of the matches.
Third, not having anyone manning the cameras.  We knew this was going to be an issue.  There are a couple solutions that we have went through on how to make sure that the cameras are focused on the action.  Having a manager from one of the teams run the camera, getting more help for the tables, whatever we need to do.  We know there was a water bottle in the view of the Brownsburg v. Portage match, unfortunately.  We are working to fix as many issues as we can while hoping to be able to bring streams to the Indiana Wrestling community next year.
No solution for this yet, but we are working toward finding a solution.
The mats were setup for 1-6 (finals and 3rd place mats) to have the best streaming equipment (the ones that came from TW).  That is why the 3A schools were having the spotty computers/cameras.  This is something that was decided while setting up and honestly it was probably for the best that we kept those cameras there as it would have delayed the tournament even more if we hadn't.
Next year, we are hoping to rent another 5 video kits so that the streams are corrected.
 
I am sure there are more things that you would like answered, so if you would like, go ahead and ask and I can help.

So a couple things in Re: to the streaming at the Team State Duals.  I am going to put it all together in one place since there are a couple of posts regarding videos from team state.
First, it was a hectic time as we had different camera/computer/table set ups at each table.  TrackWrestling set up a standard for using TrackCast, and unfortunately only 7 of the mats that were streamed had the full TC equipment from TW.  The week before, Mark Durham had rented TC kits (as well as used his own 6 computers) from TW for the DII grind of a tournament, Midwest Classic.  Those computers and streams had very little issues.  Unfortunately for this tournament they used some ISWA computers and video cameras that caused for some spotty video.  For those that were complaining about Mat 10 during the event, this was one of the locations where the computer/camera combo were failing us and we had to put a new setup in mid event, which hopefully helped.
The good news in this is that we streamed the event, still had many colleges looking at the videos based on the paywall, and it seems like the tournament admins want to rent video equipment from TW for next year. 
Second, the archives.  We were told that archives were not supposed to happen, unfortunately it is automatically archived on TW and when we found that out we had to contact them to stop the archiving of matches.  So this means that the first 2-3 rounds (depending on teams) are archived and available to watch for free.
This is a major college recruiting tool that has helped Indiana kids get offers from schools.  If the tournament hosts do not care, I can archive the rest of the matches. It is hard to see how this is a bad thing for our wrestlers because of scouting.  If you know anything about high school wrestling then you should know that coaches trade film to scout.  In this case, at least you have the ability to watch all of the matches.
Third, not having anyone manning the cameras.  We knew this was going to be an issue.  There are a couple solutions that we have went through on how to make sure that the cameras are focused on the action.  Having a manager from one of the teams run the camera, getting more help for the tables, whatever we need to do.  We know there was a water bottle in the view of the Brownsburg v. Portage match, unfortunately.  We are working to fix as many issues as we can while hoping to be able to bring streams to the Indiana Wrestling community next year.
No solution for this yet, but we are working toward finding a solution.
The mats were setup for 1-6 (finals and 3rd place mats) to have the best streaming equipment (the ones that came from TW).  That is why the 3A schools were having the spotty computers/cameras.  This is something that was decided while setting up and honestly it was probably for the best that we kept those cameras there as it would have delayed the tournament even more if we hadn't.
Next year, we are hoping to rent another 5 video kits so that the streams are corrected.
 
I am sure there are more things that you would like answered, so if you would like, go ahead and ask and I can help.

So a couple things in Re: to the streaming at the Team State Duals.  I am going to put it all together in one place since there are a couple of posts regarding videos from team state.
First, it was a hectic time as we had different camera/computer/table set ups at each table.  TrackWrestling set up a standard for using TrackCast, and unfortunately only 7 of the mats that were streamed had the full TC equipment from TW.  The week before, Mark Durham had rented TC kits (as well as used his own 6 computers) from TW for the DII grind of a tournament, Midwest Classic.  Those computers and streams had very little issues.  Unfortunately for this tournament they used some ISWA computers and video cameras that caused for some spotty video.  For those that were complaining about Mat 10 during the event, this was one of the locations where the computer/camera combo were failing us and we had to put a new setup in mid event, which hopefully helped.
The good news in this is that we streamed the event, still had many colleges looking at the videos based on the paywall, and it seems like the tournament admins want to rent video equipment from TW for next year. 
Second, the archives.  We were told that archives were not supposed to happen, unfortunately it is automatically archived on TW and when we found that out we had to contact them to stop the archiving of matches.  So this means that the first 2-3 rounds (depending on teams) are archived and available to watch for free.
This is a major college recruiting tool that has helped Indiana kids get offers from schools.  If the tournament hosts do not care, I can archive the rest of the matches. It is hard to see how this is a bad thing for our wrestlers because of scouting.  If you know anything about high school wrestling then you should know that coaches trade film to scout.  In this case, at least you have the ability to watch all of the matches.
Third, not having anyone manning the cameras.  We knew this was going to be an issue.  There are a couple solutions that we have went through on how to make sure that the cameras are focused on the action.  Having a manager from one of the teams run the camera, getting more help for the tables, whatever we need to do.  We know there was a water bottle in the view of the Brownsburg v. Portage match, unfortunately.  We are working to fix as many issues as we can while hoping to be able to bring streams to the Indiana Wrestling community next year.
No solution for this yet, but we are working toward finding a solution.
The mats were setup for 1-6 (finals and 3rd place mats) to have the best streaming equipment (the ones that came from TW).  That is why the 3A schools were having the spotty computers/cameras.  This is something that was decided while setting up and honestly it was probably for the best that we kept those cameras there as it would have delayed the tournament even more if we hadn't.
Next year, we are hoping to rent another 5 video kits so that the streams are corrected.
 
I am sure there are more things that you would like answered, so if you would like, go ahead and ask and I can help.

So a couple things in Re: to the streaming at the Team State Duals.  I am going to put it all together in one place since there are a couple of posts regarding videos from team state.
First, it was a hectic time as we had different camera/computer/table set ups at each table.  TrackWrestling set up a standard for using TrackCast, and unfortunately only 7 of the mats that were streamed had the full TC equipment from TW.  The week before, Mark Durham had rented TC kits (as well as used his own 6 computers) from TW for the DII grind of a tournament, Midwest Classic.  Those computers and streams had very little issues.  Unfortunately for this tournament they used some ISWA computers and video cameras that caused for some spotty video.  For those that were complaining about Mat 10 during the event, this was one of the locations where the computer/camera combo were failing us and we had to put a new setup in mid event, which hopefully helped.
The good news in this is that we streamed the event, still had many colleges looking at the videos based on the paywall, and it seems like the tournament admins want to rent video equipment from TW for next year. 
Second, the archives.  We were told that archives were not supposed to happen, unfortunately it is automatically archived on TW and when we found that out we had to contact them to stop the archiving of matches.  So this means that the first 2-3 rounds (depending on teams) are archived and available to watch for free.
This is a major college recruiting tool that has helped Indiana kids get offers from schools.  If the tournament hosts do not care, I can archive the rest of the matches. It is hard to see how this is a bad thing for our wrestlers because of scouting.  If you know anything about high school wrestling then you should know that coaches trade film to scout.  In this case, at least you have the ability to watch all of the matches.
Third, not having anyone manning the cameras.  We knew this was going to be an issue.  There are a couple solutions that we have went through on how to make sure that the cameras are focused on the action.  Having a manager from one of the teams run the camera, getting more help for the tables, whatever we need to do.  We know there was a water bottle in the view of the Brownsburg v. Portage match, unfortunately.  We are working to fix as many issues as we can while hoping to be able to bring streams to the Indiana Wrestling community next year.
No solution for this yet, but we are working toward finding a solution.
The mats were setup for 1-6 (finals and 3rd place mats) to have the best streaming equipment (the ones that came from TW).  That is why the 3A schools were having the spotty computers/cameras.  This is something that was decided while setting up and honestly it was probably for the best that we kept those cameras there as it would have delayed the tournament even more if we hadn't.
Next year, we are hoping to rent another 5 video kits so that the streams are corrected.
 
I am sure there are more things that you would like answered, so if you would like, go ahead and ask and I can help.

I do not want to hijack this thread more than I already have.
I understand your frustration with the cameras.  And believe it that the employees at TW do too.  There is nothing worse than having customers complain about a product that you are producing, but sometimes while trying to grow the sport as much as they can stuff happens.
But please understand that the only event that Flo has interest in covering in Indiana is IHPO.  And you will continue to see that Y2 utilizes TW for this event.  They contact him every year to ensure that he has all the help he needs.  Also the first event that had every match archived (yes, before Flo) was IHPO 2 years ago.  TW was also on site for the tournament last year utilizing their production studio to stream the finals.  This past IHPO, they had two employees onsite to ensure the tournament went off without a hitch as well.
Track will allow any tournament to stream their event if they want.  Now granted the quality of those streams are messed up by inexperienced individuals or bad internet within the venue, but TW is covering youth events every weekend, while Flo only cares about the big events.  It appears to me that all Flo cares about is money, while TW cares about customer service and growing the sport.  I believe that is why the NCAA utilizes TrackWrestling for all of it's big time events.  (NCAA DII, DIII Super Regionals) (NCAA DI, DII, DIII National Championships) As well as the 35 states in the country that utilize TW for their state finals.
Again, I appreciate that you are ranting because of lack of good experiences, but from where I stand Track actually cares and will do whatever they can to keep a customer happy.

For those who don't know we lost an Icon todaY. Official and Wrestlong fan Tom Clark passed away. I don't have many details But I just want to say how much Tom means to me as a coach wrestler and friend. He always gave me crap for being a short nobody. But he was always the first one to answer any interpretation questions I have. He was always there to put a smile on my face and when he was with his son you know he was with his bestn friend in the world. Tom I know your up there looking down and going to see a hell of a folkstyle state and NCAA tournament. I plan on giving out a lot of hugs tomorrow to the guys in stripes.
 
I know we have been having some petty issues recently but I want you all to know that I love each and everyone of you. Remember to hug your loved ones tonight because you never know what tomorrow brings.
 
 
Tom I miss you already. I know I'll miss your letters to Urban Meyer during football season. But I know you will have the beat seats in the shoe.
 
Love you man

And it's streaming today...so hope everyone watches.  #GrowTheSport

I want to thank everyone for attending this year's Indiana Frosh-Soph North Qualifier.  It was a VERY long day, but we made it through and learned a lot of what needs to happen for next year.  I want to open up the floor for anyone else to give suggestions of things we could work on for moving into next year.
 
Some things that I know we will look at:
 
More Mats/Having 5 actual mats More Officials (asked for 7 for 5 mats, but only got our 5).  Though thankfully we had a parent of one of our wrestlers that holds an IHSAA officials license that took his time out to break those officials for lunch/breaks. (If staying with only 5 mats) Moving 3 to one set of bleachers and 2 in front of the other so we can keep the floor clear on the spectator side.  I only know of a few problems with that. Moving weigh in time a little bit/Moving wrestling time. Better Trackwrestling Admin (suggestion from Y2) We also have a survey that I ask anyone who had a bad experience from the venue to please contact me (PM me here preferably) regarding it, so that I can accurately assist in making the event better for everyone.
 
Hopefully everyone enjoyed their day, while it was a late day I think it was highly successful.

This is just a clarification when it comes to Track and the records from there.  Now here is something that if you are worried about it, the match that the wrestler is injured during counts as an injury default, all subsequent matches should be Medical Forfeits, not ID's.  That tells the track system that a loss will be given for the Injury Default, but will not be counted for the Med FF.

This is just a clarification when it comes to Track and the records from there.  Now here is something that if you are worried about it, the match that the wrestler is injured during counts as an injury default, all subsequent matches should be Medical Forfeits, not ID's.  That tells the track system that a loss will be given for the Injury Default, but will not be counted for the Med FF.

Huh, I wonder if Crown Point will challenge if Littell trys to transfer??? 

You did not follow the prompts to add the results.  The results are there now, but next time you will go through the screens that say Import Matches, Verify Team, Match Teams, Match Athletes, Dump Matches and you too can add those results!

He is sure about that

Here here, trackgopher speaks the truth! 
 
With the location being where it is along with near Christmas time the IHSWCA is missing out on another revenue stream.

There were 873 subscriptions for TrackCast last year for the Individual State Finals (@ $10).  I am aware that some of that probably had to do with the Lee v. Red match but still that is a good amount of people we reached that were unable (or able to go and wanted to watch the replay of the matches).  
 
I would imagine that Evansville people would be more than happy to throw $30 towards a stream instead of driving, getting a hotel, and paying admission (which would be $30 for 2 people). Maybe I am wrong, but I do not actually see this harming our attendance as the people who were already planning to go, would.  And the people who were not, would have the ability to go. Now I am sure there will be teams periscoping, Twitter Live-ing, and Facebook Live-ing so that their fans back at home are able to watch.  
 
I just see it as a missed opportunity.

They wouldn't have the issue if they went first available mat. The same mat all day thing exploits this issue, but parents throw a hissy fit when you go first available.

This was an event that was in the works with Mark Durham (the guy who runs the IHSAA Finals) to run it after DII Midwest Regionals @ UIndy.  The logistics just did not work for this year, but this is definitely something that is being looked into more heavy in the coming years.  I love the people who think this is a bad thing.  Just think about it as another meet that our athletes are allowed to get some matches in.  We are into the part of the year where the athletes should be getting better and getting matches in.  In most of our days, we would have 75 folkstyle, 100-200 freestyle and greco matches during the offseason.  Now the kids are lucky to get 30 matches in the offseason.  I for one am always a proponent of getting athletes on the mat to get better.  Maybe I am a fool to believe that.