Jayruss Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I wanted to start my own thread because I believe this is a topic that deserves some focused discussion and that is the SIAC being down this year. SIAC will always be spearheaded by MD, but if you take a look at the bracket and the rankings for EVV semi state, you won’t find many SIAC wrestlers there. I get that Castle has injuries, Reitz seems to be declining, Memorial isn’t having a good year, North is solid and on the rise, Central can’t field a team, and Harrison hasn’t been good for years. Is this a one off year, or is this a sign of things to come ? Is the pipeline being refilled ? I need answers… SIwrestling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Unfortunately, I don't see this as just a one off year. But admittedly, I do not have a finger on the pulse of the pipeline. The SIAC used to be one of the tougher conferences in the entire state. As you said, they have been lead by MD for decades. But Reitz, Castle, Memorial, Central & Harrison are just not producing the same level of talent they used to. Maybe it is just a one off for Castle & Memorial. But Reitz, Central & Harrison seem to be in a decline over the last several years or longer. The addition of Jasper & Vincennes Lincoln should help some, but Reitz & Central used to have really solid programs & Harrison would always have a few solid individuals. I think the emergence of the elite wrestling academies has a lot to do with it. There is a bigger gap between the "dedicated wrestlers" & the "guys who wrestle". The good athletes that are "guys who wrestle" use to more easily have success a the state level. Now it pretty much takes a "dedicated wrestler" to even qualify for state. Maybe I am off, but that is how I see it. Cricket21 and Jayruss 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Ratliff Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 It's hard to find many results from that area. Maybe coaches need to take some time to put those in. I'm sure there are some wrestlers that will contend. It seems like hardly anyone uses trackwrestling down there and not many results posted on indianamat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 In all honesty all the big city schools have declined significantly over the past 15 years. Fort Wayne, South Bend, and Evansville city schools have not been very good recently. It's not a good trend. In 2015 there were 10 wrestlers from the city schools that qualified for state, in 2019 only ONE did! The South Bend city schools have not had a state qualifier since 2018. frigginhurts, GrecoSupreme, Alex Skipper and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn04 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Y2CJ41 said: The South Bend city schools have not had a state qualifier since 2018. A real-life modern-day tragedy. Alex Skipper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC123 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 hours ago, Jayruss said: I wanted to start my own thread because I believe this is a topic that deserves some focused discussion and that is the SIAC being down this year. SIAC will always be spearheaded by MD, but if you take a look at the bracket and the rankings for EVV semi state, you won’t find many SIAC wrestlers there. I get that Castle has injuries, Reitz seems to be declining, Memorial isn’t having a good year, North is solid and on the rise, Central can’t field a team, and Harrison hasn’t been good for years. Is this a one off year, or is this a sign of things to come ? Is the pipeline being refilled ? I need answers… It’s not going to get much better. It is a sign of things to come. Jayruss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Skipper Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said: In all honesty all the big city schools have declined significantly over the past 15 years. Fort Wayne, South Bend, and Evansville city schools have not been very good recently. It's not a good trend. In 2015 there were 10 wrestlers from the city schools that qualified for state, in 2019 only ONE did! The South Bend city schools have not had a state qualifier since 2018. Coaching at the South Bend schools is tough. Almost as tough as living in South Bend. Y2CJ41 and Joshua Olsen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awill0352 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Rumor has it that this is Castle coach Harmon’s last year. Been there a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdcats1 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I do see a decline this year as well. After looking at all the rosters, there are only 2 teams that have 4 seniors on them. All the other schools have less than 4. Maybe this has an impact on why we think there is a decline? Jayruss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 1/18/2024 at 6:04 PM, Alex Skipper said: Coaching at the South Bend schools is tough. Almost as tough as living in South Bend. That’s why you pick Mish…jokes aside this stuff always goes in cycles, not all programs can be a constant power house like EMD so I do believe it’s probably a down year or years but it will come around Joshua Olsen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Skipper Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 3 hours ago, Fabio Jr. said: That’s why you pick Mish…jokes aside this stuff always goes in cycles, not all programs can be a constant power house like EMD so I do believe it’s probably a down year or years but it will come around Being from a South Bend school, I’d like to think positively like that. Lack of admin support. Lack of interest. Limited feeder school support. Then you have my biggest issue, coaches have to live in South Bend. Joshua Olsen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awill0352 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 33 minutes ago, Alex Skipper said: Being from a South Bend school, I’d like to think positively like that. Lack of admin support. Lack of interest. Limited feeder school support. Then you have my biggest issue, coaches have to live in South Bend. All coaches for South Bend schools have to live in SB?! Who made that rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyStJ Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 9 hours ago, Alex Skipper said: Being from a South Bend school, I’d like to think positively like that. Lack of admin support. Lack of interest. Limited feeder school support. Then you have my biggest issue, coaches have to live in South Bend. Looking on the bright side, there are almost certain to be several retirements among South Bend HS coaches over the next couple of years. An ambitious young coach willing to take it on the chin for a while would have an open field to work with. Joshua Olsen and Alex Skipper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Skipper Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 9 hours ago, awill0352 said: All coaches for South Bend schools have to live in SB?! Who made that rule? It’s a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awill0352 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Alex Skipper said: It’s a joke. As in it’s not true type joke or it’s so crazy it’s true joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Olsen Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 1/20/2024 at 10:29 AM, awill0352 said: As in it’s not true type joke or it’s so crazy it’s true joke? Skipper is joking about how bad it is to live in South Bend. Most, if not all, South Bend coaches live in that area. Coaches don't have to live there to coach. Alex Skipper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/19/2024 at 10:58 PM, Alex Skipper said: Being from a South Bend school, I’d like to think positively like that. Lack of admin support. Lack of interest. Limited feeder school support. Then you have my biggest issue, coaches have to live in South Bend. South Bend has some nice areas but its very dependent on what Notre Dame deems worthy of being fixed up they run that town like a Mafiaoso. That coming from a ND fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awill0352 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 17 hours ago, Fabio Jr. said: South Bend has some nice areas but its very dependent on what Notre Dame deems worthy of being fixed up they run that town like a Mafiaoso. That coming from a ND fan. I am in Evansville so I only get up there for ND games. Which means a night or two at a time usually once a year. Mishawaka seems better overall than South Bend. What are the locals' thoughts? Although there are some really cool areas in SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyStJ Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 20 hours ago, Fabio Jr. said: South Bend has some nice areas but its very dependent on what Notre Dame deems worthy of being fixed up they run that town like a Mafiaoso. That coming from a ND fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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