SWINfan Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 Red and Micic both won their consolation matches. I'm out of here until tonight MUSKEEWRESTLER, Cricket21 and FCFIGHTER170 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butt Drag Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Purdue coaches blew it with Penola in that last match. He had no issue getting away on the bottom in the first period, but they had him go neutral in the 3rd? Don't agree with that. FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJimmy Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Extremely bummed for Chad red. Congrats on the caeeer. Butt Drag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 I did not see what happened, but Chad Red lost by fall to Grant Willits in the blood round. Chad was ahead 3-2 after the first period and took down. I looked away following the RBY - Desanto match and it was over. Never saw the fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Congrats to Nick Lee as he is back under the lights to defend his title Butt Drag and SWINfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Micic is done as he lost in SV-1 10-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, 1prouddad said: Micic is done as he lost in SV-1 10-4 Was just about to post that. I completely missed his match so not sure how it happened. Obviously a takedown to his back to get to 10-4, but missed seeing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJimmy Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 I like Cormier on the call but gibbons seems to not say anything and I like what he brings to the commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 Lucas Davison and Mason Parris are All-Americans! Mason with a nice bounce back beat Tate Orndorff of OSU 11-1 Lucas gets an 8-2 dec over Gary Traub of Oregon State Congrats to both! Each has one more match tonight to determine their Placement Match 1prouddad, FCFIGHTER170 and RAJR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Disappointing day for Purdue. Another year without an All-American for Ersland. Has Ersland ever had an AA at Purdue? He puts some competitive dual teams up, but, just can't break through the ceiling. He's recruited some good talent, but where's that Ipwa tourney magic that he experienced under Gable? Hope he finds that someday. Butt Drag and Disco 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) Davison gets a 2-1 win over Christian Lance Mason Parris wins 11-5 over Tony Cassioppi. On to the consolation semifinals in the morning! - Parris will face Greg Kerkvliet - Davison will face Jordan Wood of Lehigh Edited March 19, 2022 by SWINfan FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 What a match of the big fellas in Schultz and Wood. Crazy ending to a solid match. And what a class act Gable is. Shows respect to all and can’t wait to see how he ends his illustrious college career. Said he’s going to put on a show. And then to show the utmost respect, I believe I heard he’s laying the shoes in the middle of the mat afterwards. Can’t wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 I have always found it interesting that when an NCAA wrestler gives an interview he is usually bleeding and or bruised. When you look at NCAA basketball players that give interviews they usually don't have a scratch on them. Nick Lee's interview after Semifinals was a good example, I remember Andrew Howe being beat up pretty good after one of his matches and talking about tempo and wrestling his match. Basketball players get fouled a few times and call it a "physical game" . You have to love this sport! FCFIGHTER170 and SWINfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Ahawkeye said: I have always found it interesting that when an NCAA wrestler gives an interview he is usually bleeding and or bruised. When you look at NCAA basketball players that give interviews they usually don't have a scratch on them. Nick Lee's interview after Semifinals was a good example, I remember Andrew Howe being beat up pretty good after one of his matches and talking about tempo and wrestling his match. Basketball players get fouled a few times and call it a "physical game" . You have to love this sport! You don't play wrestling! RAJR, Ahawkeye, SWINfan and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Sorry that I am so late to the conversation, but I have to stay away from here until after I am able to watch the action. DVR's are great but it does mean I have to avoid this site until I have caught up with the action. The stall call on Red against Rivera is very unfortunate. I truly dislike that call in general. College wrestling is not Free-Style. Why is merely pushing your opponent off the mat rewarded? It is my understanding that if you simply push your opponent off the mat it is stalling against the pusher. There is a difference between a wrestler fleeing the mat to avoid a takedown attempt & simply getting pushed out. Another beef I have with the push out stall call... When starting from the down position & the bottom wrestler stands up, why is the top man not called for stalling when they simply ride them out of bounds instead of attempting to return them to the mat? But my biggest beef with the push out stall call is how inconsistent it is from official to official. The biggest majority of officials would not have awarded Rivera that point. FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butt Drag Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 11 hours ago, Wrestling Scholar said: Disappointing day for Purdue. Another year without an All-American for Ersland. Has Ersland ever had an AA at Purdue? He puts some competitive dual teams up, but, just can't break through the ceiling. He's recruited some good talent, but where's that Ipwa tourney magic that he experienced under Gable? Hope he finds that someday. bingo Wrestling Scholar - no AA on the mat since 2013. The COVID may have given him more time; guys were awarded NWSCA AA based on seed. Have Concerns about a few guys go have regressed. I liked the addition of Shopp and Vega but they need another big guy animal assistant. penola got jobbed - they challenged the wrong takedown - he was up 8-2 when there was takedown at edge of mat, but it was clear they were out of bounds and there was no challenge - the dam broke after that. concerned about Kendall Coleman - looks hurt this year AA’s in Big Ten Illinois - 1 Iowa - 5 Michigan - 6 Minnesota - 3 Nebraska - 5 Northwestern - 4 Ohio State - 4 Penn State - 6 Rutgers - 2 Wisconsin - 3 Indiana - 0 Maryland - 0 Michigan State - 0 Purdue - 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, SIACfan said: Sorry that I am so late to the conversation, but I have to stay away from here until after I am able to watch the action. DVR's are great but it does mean I have to avoid this site until I have caught up with the action. The stall call on Red against Rivera is very unfortunate. I truly dislike that call in general. College wrestling is not Free-Style. Why is merely pushing your opponent off the mat rewarded? It is my understanding that if you simply push your opponent off the mat it is stalling against the pusher. There is a difference between a wrestler fleeing the mat to avoid a takedown attempt & simply getting pushed out. Another beef I have with the push out stall call... When starting from the down position & the bottom wrestler stands up, why is the top man not called for stalling when they simply ride them out of bounds instead of attempting to return them to the mat? But my biggest beef with the push out stall call is how inconsistent it is from official to official. The biggest majority of officials would not have awarded Rivera that point. I agree with the inconsistency. I didn't see Red's match and only caught the last seconds as they were going out of bounds. It didn't seem to warrant a stalling call to me and the inconsistency sucks. I am not a rules expert, but as I understand it, that stalling call is very subjective. The wrestler in control can't just push them out without attempting to score but the other wrestler has to try to circle back in and not just be pushed out. I can see the logic behind calling wrestling for stalling as he didn't try to stay in, but I just can't see that being a call you make in that moment. I don't think it would have been called if Chad hadn't already been hit for stalling not long before. But sometimes as an official you have to swallow your whistle somewhat and allow the moment and the athletes to decide the outcome. It's a fine line because you could argue is it fair to the other wrestler if you don't call something you might call at a different point of the match. That's why, no matter how people want to argue the rules and be pseudo experts, officiating requires a feel as well as knowledge and mechanics. I do want to go back to watch the whole match though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) Some good, tough matches this morning. The Peyton Robb - Jacori Teemer match echoed what AHawkeye and FCFighter said earlier, but in a slightly different way. Both buys were completely spent at the end. See the short video of the end of the match. Definitely worth a quick look!Leaving it all on the Mat - Twitter Edited March 19, 2022 by SWINfan added tweet with video FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) If we can't get the video to work, these 2 stills tell the story. They both eventually rolled over and shook hands while still on the mat, before getting up. Good stuff! Edited March 19, 2022 by SWINfan FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 I could watch Bryce Andonian and Austin Gomez wrestle twice a day, everyday. Man those guys are fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 Sadly, we have 2 familiar names squaring off against each other, as Mason Parris and Lucas Davison wrestle for 5th Place. Parris gets the 8-5 decision in a really tough match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan74 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 My first thought on Chad Red is why is everyone so surprised. He was 15-8 coming in. He’s just not one of the elites at this stage of his career. Seems like every time he gets beat it’s either he’s hurt, he’s sick, or he got screwed I know this won’t be a popular post to most people on here, but the truth hurts sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butt Drag Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 19 hours ago, UncleJimmy said: I like Cormier on the call but gibbons seems to not say anything and I like what he brings to the commentary. Because Cormier can’t shut up. I’d rather see Jordan Burroughs who is more measured and thoughtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butt Drag Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Justafan74 said: My first thought on Chad Red is why is everyone so surprised. He was 15-8 coming in. He’s just not one of the elites at this stage of his career. Seems like every time he gets beat it’s either he’s hurt, he’s sick, or he got screwed I know this won’t be a popular post to most people on here, but the truth hurts sometimes. 141 & 133 are deep every year, probably the deepest weights every year. that’s why. There are rarely easy matches in the Big Ten. On top of that, 15-8 in the Big Ten with Lee, Lee, Eireman, Bergland (AA), Micic, Rivera, Filius, (probably 20 All-Americans right there), and figure in you can see those guys 3-4 times every year at duals, Cliff Keen, Big Tens, and NCAA’s. That is unbelievably brutal. cripes, there are no slump-busters… Edited March 19, 2022 by Butt Drag FCFIGHTER170 and Easytofind 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Crowd of 100,000 erupts as Lee and Clarke get in a nice scramble. Clarke had 1st takedown and after that, it was Nick Lee show after that heading into 3rd period. lee up 7-2 with massive riding time Justafan74 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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