LionsFan Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I am curious to know what other schools' weightlifting classes do on match day or game days. Do your PE/strength and conditioning /weightlifting classes lift on match or game day? If so, what is the rationale? If not, what modifications are made? I would appreciate feedback from anyone, but specifically from coaches who are also PE/lifting teachers. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Never lifted or had my kid do so on game day... you're not gonna get any stronger..if anything are putting yourself at higher risk of injury.. the work should be done by then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sslaymon Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Since our school is football focused, they sometimes have our guys doing max outs day before or day of meets. Not a fan of that but some lifting is fine. Some select lifts and proper reps could help loosen up some muscles before matches though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 When I was in school whenever there was a competition, the people competing that day would do lower weights/less intense workouts. Just enough to stretch out a bit. Everyone else would be business as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskanMountie Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Our APC teacher is the head football coach and he makes my guys do a full workout on meet days. When I spoke to him about altering their plan he said if he does for the wrestlers he will have to do it for all sports which leads to logistical chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Cooper Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Absolutely 100% workout/lift on game/meet day. Of course it's bball, but research some of Michael Jordan's game day workouts. TheNextDynasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstruck Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 absolutely - think how far kids would be behind if they were a three sport athlete and they took off every game three seasons a year.........look up "Texas Rangers batting averages" as a study they did on the batting average of their players that lifted on game day - pretty interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) I'm not sure the question should be "to lift or not to lift," but rather how to best utilize the time in the weight room on a game day. From what I have seen a lifting teacher doesn't have to make some personalized plan for every student as an earlier post suggested. Sure there are sports specific lifts to emphasis but that would be a lot of work to balance all of those routines in the space most weight rooms have. But a good lifting teacher should have the time and ability to recognize what he/she is asking of the students and how that may affect certain athletes who are competing later that day. A good teacher may allowing competition athletes to have some minor adjustments to the lifting routine depending on the normal lifting plan for that day. This would be no different than giving some modifications on an assignments for some students, so I'm sure a teacher that cares to make an effort would be able to handle this. Sadly though I have heard of a few instances where the lifting teacher either did recognize a particularly taxing routine would cause an issue or just didn't care enough to allow for some minor adjustments to me made. I think this is where good communication between the teacher, coaches, and athletes is helpful. But also rather than telling the teacher to not let the athlete lift at all the coach should be open minded to the teacher approach if he/she has a solid background on the subject and can show proof of that their plan is successful to athletes. Many days the regular lifting routine would be fine for those having a game or not. Heck in many case the lifting teacher isn't asking athletes to push it to the ultimate limit within the hour of actual workout time most of them have. Nor are most students really trying to push themselves to the breaking point over the course of that same hour. Realistically trying to get most of the students to just lift with maximum effort and proper form is a daunting task for most. However, on a few of those class days the style of lifting could indeed cause some minor issues for an athlete who will have a game later that day. For that the teacher could easily ask those athletes to make a minor adjustment to the number of lifts, the amount of reps, the amount of weight, skip/substitute one of the lifts in the rotation, etc. A lifting teacher with a decent background in exercise science should be able to recognize when he/she has assigned a particularly taxing routine and know what adjustments would be warranted for completion athletes. So yes based on what I have seen before getting in a good lifting routine and sweat going is helpful to most athletes on game day. Especially when you consider most athletes are spending the majority of the day rest in a school desk. I'm not exercise science expert, but have seen enough lifting plans and talked to enough exercise science guys to know that it more helpful than harmful to do some exercise on a game day. However, a good teacher should be mindful enough of what he/she is planning to know if that routine could be a possible detriment to the athletes competition performance. Edited September 12, 2017 by MattM leggin89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BClark Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 On 9/9/2017 at 10:46 AM, sslaymon said: Since our school is football focused, they sometimes have our guys doing max outs day before or day of meets. Not a fan of that but some lifting is fine. Some select lifts and proper reps could help loosen up some muscles before matches though. Pretty sure Whiteland has sport specific APC classes so they receive modified routines? Doesn't football have it's own class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosgrove Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Never bothered me to lift on the same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sslaymon Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 20 hours ago, BClark said: Pretty sure Whiteland has sport specific APC classes so they receive modified routines? Doesn't football have it's own class? The Strength and Conditioning coach we have now (new as of 2 years ago) has all athletes on the same routines. Right now our wrestlers are doing the same workouts as all APC athletes, which do the same workouts whether in season or not. So any wrestler, basketball, swimmer that is in APC during winter season will continue with the typical APC workouts, which in winter is a lot of power lifting/bulking routines but still has a mix of lifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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