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School classifications for 2014-15 IHSWCA State Duals


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Here are the classification assignments for the 2014-15 State Duals.  There are 312 schools--104 per class. There are several small changes from last year's assignments:

 

--Muncie Southside and Muncie Central are combining into one school (called Muncie Central) for next year; that school becomes 3A for this list

 

--Indianapolis Arlington out

 

--Indiana Deaf and Lafayette Central Catholic in (both 1A)

 

--Roncalli up to 3A (because of previous IHSAA misprint of their enrollment)

 

--Northview down to 2A (because of shifting of other schools)

 

--North Posey up to 2A (because of additions of smaller schools)

 

We have one week until sectionals.  PLEASE NOTIFY ME IMMEDIATELY if you know of another school consolidation or feel there is some error with this information.

 

Even if a listed team does not bring an individual to sectional, they are entered in the IHSAA's entry list and will remain in their assigned classification.

 

This information will be considered final once it is edited for the final time before sectional. 

 

1 Ben Davis 4687 3A

2 Carmel 4685 3A

3 Warren Central 3589 3A

4 North Central 3402 3A

5 Penn 3401 3A

6 Lake Central 3271 3A

7 Pike 3031 3A

8 Hamilton Southeastern 3009 3A

9 Portage 2640 3A

10 Noblesville 2637 3A

11 Crown Point 2620 3A

12 Avon 2608 3A

13 Franklin Central 2586 3A

14 Fishers 2582 3A

15 Lawrence Central 2504 3A

16 Indianapolis Arsenal Tech 2398 3A

17 Center Grove 2387 3A

18 Brownsburg 2370 3A

19 Merrillville 2339 3A

20 Lawrence North 2309 3A

21 Homestead 2260 3A

22 Fort Wayne Northrop 2181 3A

23 Perry Meridian 2181 3A

24 Valparaiso 2178 3A

25 Warsaw 2138 3A

26 Southport 2107 3A

27 Jeffersonville 2080 3A

28 Carroll (Fort Wayne) 2051 3A

29 Columbus North 2034 3A

30 Chesterton 2019 3A

31 New Albany 2005 3A

32 Lafayette Jefferson 1935 3A

33 Terre Haute North 1929 3A

34 Decatur Central 1922 3A

35 Castle 1920 3A

36 LaPorte 1892 3A

37 Anderson 1884 3A

38 Kokomo 1879 3A

39 Fort Wayne Snider 1865 3A

40 Muncie Central 1842 3A

41 Westfield 1821 3A

42 Bloomington South 1813 3A

43 Goshen 1811 3A

44 McCutcheon 1809 3A

45 Zionsville 1808 3A

46 Terre Haute South 1805 3A

47 Michigan City 1802 3A

48 Elkhart Memorial 1793 3A

49 Huntington North 1750 3A

50 Elkhart Central 1745 3A

51 Harrison (WL) 1740 3A

52 South Bend Adams 1736 3A

53 Whiteland 1725 3A

54 Franklin Community 1713 3A

55 Fort Wayne North Side 1683 3A

56 Floyd Central 1660 3A

57 Bedford North Lawrence 1641 3A

58 Evansville North 1569 3A

59 Bloomington North 1563 3A

60 Munster 1560 3A

61 Martinsville 1550 3A

62 Concord 1523 3A

63 Richmond 1516 3A

64 Mishawaka 1514 3A

65 Fort Wayne Wayne 1504 3A

66 Jennings County 1496 3A

67 Plainfield 1489 3A

68 Fort Wayne South Side 1479 3A

69 Columbus East 1461 3A

70 Greenfield Central 1446 3A

71 Evansville Reitz 1373 3A

72 South Bend Clay 1372 3A

73 Evansville Central 1358 3A

74 East Central 1353 3A

75 Mooresville 1334 3A

76 Pendleton Heights 1316 3A

77 Northridge 1291 3A

78 Hobart 1278 3A

79 Logansport 1245 3A

80 East Chicago Central 1240 3A

81 Indianapolis Cathedral 1238 3A

82 Seymour 1235 3A

83 South Bend Riley 1230 3A

84 East Noble 1227 3A

85 South Bend Washington 1226 3A

86 Lowell 1220 3A

87 Evansville Harrison 1200 3A

88 Indianapolis Northwest 1191 3A

89 Hammond Morton 1185 3A

90 DeKalb 1171 3A

91 Gary Westside 1163 3A

92 Marion 1159 3A

93 Highland 1147 3A

94 Connersville 1142 3A

95 Greenwood 1136 3A

96 Roncalli 1127 3A

97 Mount Vernon (Fortville) 1119 3A

98 Jay County 1113 3A

99 Plymouth 1112 3A

100 New Castle 1108 3A

101 Shelbyville 1108 3A

102 New Palestine 1107 3A

103 Jasper 1099 3A

104 Evansville Mater Dei 493 3A

 

1 Northview 1087 2A

2 Columbia City 1086 2A

3 New Haven 1068 2A

4 Kankakee Valley 1054 2A

5 Lebanon 1049 2A

6 Bishop Dwenger 1025 2A

7 Madison 1022 2A

8 Angola 938 2A

9 Boonville 935 2A

10 Wawasee 933 2A

11 Leo 932 2A

12 Franklin County 916 2A

13 Scottsburg 914 2A

14 South Dearborn 900 2A

15 Griffith 898 2A

16 Hammond Clark 886 2A

17 South Bend St. Joseph 869 2A

18 New Prairie 865 2A

19 Owen Valley 858 2A

20 NorthWood 853 2A

21 Hammond Gavit 847 2A

22 Frankfort 837 2A

23 Beech Grove 824 2A

24 Danville 819 2A

25 Norwell 810 2A

26 Vincennes Lincoln 808 2A

27 Western 808 2A

28 Delta 803 2A

29 Culver Academies 797 2A

30 Rushville 792 2A

31 Mount Vernon (Posey) 787 2A

32 Yorktown 785 2A

33 Hammond 778 2A

34 Evansville Bosse 776 2A

35 Bellmont 772 2A

36 Gary Wallace 760 2A

37 Twin Lakes 760 2A

38 Evansville Memorial 752 2A

39 Edgewood 748 2A

40 Mississinewa 748 2A

41 Corydon Central 737 2A

42 Charlestown 736 2A

43 Batesville 732 2A

44 Washington 730 2A

45 Indianapolis Bishop Chatard 726 2A

46 West Lafayette 721 2A

47 Brebeuf Jesuit 717 2A

48 West Noble 717 2A

49 Guerin Catholic 714 2A

50 Hamilton Heights 714 2A

51 Indianapolis Marshall 694 2A

52 Mishawaka Marian 681 2A

53 Lakeland 679 2A

54 Gibson Southern 678 2A

55 Fort Wayne Concordia 675 2A

56 Brown County 667 2A

57 Crawfordsville 662 2A

58 Heritage 658 2A

59 Maconaquah 653 2A

60 Princeton 652 2A

61 Greensburg 646 2A

62 Hanover Central 636 2A

63 Peru 627 2A

64 Glenn 625 2A

65 Tri West 622 2A

66 Greencastle 611 2A

67 Heritage Hills 611 2A

68 North Montgomery 611 2A

69 Garrett 604 2A

70 Calumet 599 2A

71 Tippecanoe Valley 599 2A

72 West Vigo 599 2A

73 Bishop Luers 590 2A

74 Fairfield 589 2A

75 Salem 588 2A

76 Jimtown 586 2A

77 Eastbrook 585 2A

78 Indian Creek 584 2A

79 Mitchell 581 2A

80 Knox 577 2A

81 Whitko 576 2A

82 Lawrenceburg 564 2A

83 Pike Central 564 2A

84 Rochester 564 2A

85 Blackford 563 2A

86 Western Boone 562 2A

87 Northwestern 558 2A

88 Andrean 557 2A

89 Wheeler 555 2A

90 Southridge 552 2A

91 Benton Central 548 2A

92 Tipton 544 2A

93 Indianapolis Washington 538 2A

94 Boone Grove 536 2A

95 Rensselaer Central 536 2A

96 Sullivan 536 2A

97 South Vermillion 535 2A

98 North Putnam 532 2A

99 Delphi 524 2A

100 Southmont 523 2A

101 Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter 521 2A

102 Centerville 518 2A

103 Oak Hill 515 2A

104 North Posey 513 2A

 

1 Woodlan 510 1A

2 Indianapolis Broad Ripple 503 1A

3 Lewis Cass 502 1A

4 Eastern (Pekin) 500 1A

5 Frankton 500 1A

6 Hammond Bishop Noll 496 1A

7 Cascade 495 1A

8 Speedway 489 1A

9 Bremen 485 1A

10 South Spencer 482 1A

11 Wabash 477 1A

12 Bluffton 476 1A

13 Paoli 474 1A

14 Prairie Heights 474 1A

15 Elwood 471 1A

16 Indianapolis Manual 466 1A

17 North Newton 464 1A

18 Alexandria 463 1A

19 Monrovia 461 1A

20 Winchester 459 1A

21 Crawford County 458 1A

22 Providence 457 1A

23 Eastern (Greentown) 456 1A

24 Union County 456 1A

25 Triton Central 448 1A

26 Central Noble 447 1A

27 Madison Grant 447 1A

28 Forest Park 446 1A

29 Lapel 445 1A

30 Manchester 436 1A

31 Switzerland County 435 1A

32 Milan 426 1A

33 North Judson 426 1A

34 Tell City 424 1A

35 Southwestern (Hanover) 422 1A

36 Taylor 422 1A

37 Park Tudor 421 1A

38 Churubusco 420 1A

39 River Forest 420 1A

40 Shenandoah 416 1A

41 Knightstown 415 1A

42 Eastside 413 1A

43 Cloverdale 408 1A

44 Whiting 408 1A

45 North Knox 402 1A

46 Adams Central 400 1A

47 Westview 399 1A

48 Winamac 395 1A

49 Fountain Central 394 1A

50 Lake Station Edison 394 1A

51 South Putnam 394 1A

52 Seeger 393 1A

53 Northeastern 384 1A

54 Fremont 373 1A

55 Indianapolis Crispus Attucks 372 1A

56 South Adams 369 1A

57 Southwood 364 1A

58 LaVille 359 1A

59 Wapahani 356 1A

60 Hagerstown 353 1A

61 Indianapolis Scecina 351 1A

62 Eastern Hancock 349 1A

63 Sheridan 349 1A

64 Indianapolis Howe Academy 346 1A

65 Cambridge City Lincoln 346 1A

66 Northfield 344 1A

67 Hebron 340 1A

68 Clinton Central 329 1A

69 North Miami 318 1A

70 Carroll (Flora) 314 1A

71 Triton 312 1A

72 Monroe Central 311 1A

73 Tri Central 303 1A

74 Rossville 285 1A

75 North White 282 1A

76 Clinton Prairie 281 1A

77 Pioneer 279 1A

78 Covington 278 1A

79 Southern Wells 277 1A

80 Attica 275 1A

81 Wes-Del 275 1A

82 New Washington 274 1A

83 Union City 263 1A

84 West Central 263 1A

85 Caston 261 1A

86 Wood Memorial 260 1A

87 South Newton 259 1A

88 Tecumseh 259 1A

89 Tri 257 1A

90 Culver Community 254 1A

91 Rockville 246 1A

92 Frontier 241 1A

93 Daleville 235 1A

94 Lafayette Central Catholic 233 1A

95 North Vermillion 232 1A

96 Christian Academy 204 1A

97 Blue River Valley 201 1A

98 Oldenburg Academy 200 1A

99 Faith Christian 199 1A

100 Randolph Southern 173 1A

101 Turkey Run 156 1A

102 Indiana School for the Deaf 112 1A

103 Howe School 71 1A

104 Indiana School for the Blind 59 1A

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Just my opinion, but if a team fails to field three wrestlers at sectional, they aren't even allowed to be counted as forfeits for team scoring at sectional. I'm not sure if it makes sense to count them here either.

 

Some of these teams at the bottoms don't even have coaches, they have one or two wrestlers that practice with other teams but wrestle under their schools name.

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Just my opinion, but if a team fails to field three wrestlers at sectional, they aren't even allowed to be counted as forfeits for team scoring at sectional. I'm not sure if it makes sense to count them here either.

 

The sectional scoring rule makes sense because of how a team tournament is scored, but teams' having large numbers of forfeits isn't, in itself, a reason not to classify them.  People have wanted this to be an "all-in" tournament, so the state duals committee decided from the start to classify everyone.  I'm sure if there were ideas proposed for future years for how the issue of very small teams could be managed, they would be looked at.

 

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Here is the list the IHSAA publishes on its website as its official numbers to determine classes for team sports for 13-14 and 14-15.  They also distributed this same list, except for an error with Roncalli, to ADs back in February. 

 

http://www.ihsaa.org/Portals/0/ihsaa/documents/quick%20resources/Boys%27%20Basketball%20Classifications%202013-15.pdf

 

I'm not sure how they calculate it (perhaps 12-13 enrollment), but it's been slightly off for others that have told me their current enrollments as well.  At some point that was the number the IHSAA locked in for you guys for 13-14/14-15, so the committee felt it was the one that had to be used for qualifying for this year and next year's events, unfortunately.

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My impression in talking with the coaches is that the desire is to maintain the philosophical stance that the tournament is "all-in".  If you want to maintain this philosophy, it's hard to look at an isolated situation and say, "that's not really a team."  Where do you draw the line?  Are 2 wrestlers a team?  How about 3...or 5?

The kids from very small teams are representing their schools and scoring points for their schools, so the "all-in" philosophy (to this point) has been enough for the coaches to say they want to classify everyone.

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It makes for an even weaker 1A tournament when you have "teams" with 3 or less kids in the field. Even in Ohio's system they have a minimum number of wrestlers that qualifies a team for their series.  This "all-in" doesn't help the product and puts a few teams in classes they shouldn't be in due to teams that field very little.

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My impression in talking with the coaches is that the desire is to maintain the philosophical stance that the tournament is "all-in".  If you want to maintain this philosophy, it's hard to look at an isolated situation and say, "that's not really a team."  Where do you draw the line?  Are 2 wrestlers a team?  How about 3...or 5?

The kids from very small teams are representing their schools and scoring points for their schools, so the "all-in" philosophy (to this point) has been enough for the coaches to say they want to classify everyone.

 

Why not draw the line at 8? If you don't have at least 8 wrestlers, you can't win a dual meet because you would be giving up more forfeit points than you could make up even if you pinned everybody else.

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Why not draw the line at 8? If you don't have at least 8 wrestlers, you can't win a dual meet because you would be giving up more forfeit points than you could make up even if you pinned everybody else.

 

I would say there are a good number of 1A schools that struggle to fill at least 8 weights, especially without bumping kids to a non-optimal weight,  on a yearly basis.

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Maligned, I understand your reasoning, but I feel the IHSAA has offered us some guidance through team scoring rules in the winter bulletin.

 

I also think that if you look at the historical sectional alignments, you'll see that the IHSAA has no problem giving some teams an 8 team sectional and others 13. They know that some of those programs don't really have teams.

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I'd say it should be at least 8 wrestlers to be considered eligible. Not only would it eliminate 1A schools, but you could also have some schools in the bigger classes that could be eliminated. That way you can actually filter in all the remaining schools into 3 classes. The whole part of this Duals Event is to find the best dual team among an equal class. You aren't a dual team with only a couple wrestlers. And as it has been stated, it all factors on how well this year's team does on whether or not you qualify for next year's event. Even if that team somehow has the best 9 wrestler team in the state the next year, it doesn't matter cause they didn't get it done this year.

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I'd say it should be at least 8 wrestlers to be considered eligible. Not only would it eliminate 1A schools, but you could also have some schools in the bigger classes that could be eliminated. That way you can actually filter in all the remaining schools into 3 classes. The whole part of this Duals Event is to find the best dual team among an equal class. You aren't a dual team with only a couple wrestlers. And as it has been stated, it all factors on how well this year's team does on whether or not you qualify for next year's event. Even if that team somehow has the best 9 wrestler team in the state the next year, it doesn't matter cause they didn't get it done this year.

 

I'm not saying I completely disagree with you on this point, but something to consider would be how that teams wrestlers will help or hurt outcome of the other teams still in contention.  If  Team A cannot use their entered wrestlers to gain point needed to advance in the IHSWCA Team State standing, then why should Team B be able to use their wrestlers wins over Team A's wrestler to help them advance to a spot which gains them more points towards the team event or be penalized because their Team B's wrestler was eliminated before additional points could be gained by someone from Team A.  It may creates additional conundrums when eliminating some teams from consideration even though their wrestlers will be a factor to the other teams involved.

 

A possible alternative, if the focus is on a good number of 1A team with low entry numbers, maybe to go away from the completely even split between the three classes.  Put additional teams in the 1A  class to help balance out things with the teams with extremely low wrestler numbers.  Then filter down teams from 3A to fill in those spots left by teams that left 2A.  That would still allow all teams in the event to be counted, but helps ensure some teams are not bumped up a Class due to some teams only have a few wrestlers participating that year.

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If you put a limit on the number of wrestlers to determine whether a team can participate or not wouldn't you have to reclassify teams every year? A team may have 10 wrestlers one year with most of them being seniors, so they only have 6 or 7 the following year. Or a team with only 5 underclassmen one year could get a lot freshmen out the next year or get back wrestlers who dropped out and jump up to 9 or 10. I thought the idea is to reclassify every other year like the other sports, but you can't do that if you base participation on the size of the squad.

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If you put a limit on the number of wrestlers to determine whether a team can participate or not wouldn't you have to reclassify teams every year? A team may have 10 wrestlers one year with most of them being seniors, so they only have 6 or 7 the following year. Or a team with only 5 underclassmen one year could get a lot freshmen out the next year or get back wrestlers who dropped out and jump up to 9 or 10. I thought the idea is to reclassify every other year like the other sports, but you can't do that if you base participation on the size of the squad.

 

Couldn't you take the average number from previous two years?

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VERY VERY slippery slope.  Be careful.  The numbers fall where they fall.  Some win, some lose.  Life isn't always fair...but at least you have concrete guidelines that everyone can turn to and say you stayed consistent.

 

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VERY VERY slippery slope.  Be careful.  The numbers fall where they fall.  Some win, some lose.  Life isn't always fair...but at least you have concrete guidelines that everyone can turn to and say you stayed consistent.

 

I agree with you sentiment. 

 

As far as following the standard put in place in other sports the IHSAA only does all-in events.  A lot of these same teams barely fill squads in football, basketball, soccer, etc and they count toward the classification totals. 

 

I also don't understand the concept that some teams deserve to be in class 1A and are somehow pushed out.  That only works if there was a certain number, say under 500 kids that would make class A.  Other than a situation like that there will always be teams that are close to the cutoff, and that could make the case that they would have faired better in the lower class.

 

Finally to say that half of the 1A schools would be taken out if the cut-off was set at eight is another problematic idea.  For one the goal of this event is to showcase schools of all sizes. Secondly I think that, that statement underestimates a majority of the teams in class 1A.  I know at team state and in our conference we faced off against small schools with full or nearly full teams all year long.

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