Penn04 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Penn 19 PM 31. Duals were 6 to 8. Perry used zero reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornton Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Penn 19 PM 31. Duals were 6 to 8. Perry used zero reserves. Did Penn use the best team they could? If so, what is your point? Penn wrestled the best they could and were still 12 points short. Be happy with their effort, but don't try to denegrate Perry Meridian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn04 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 I stated three facts that I thought people might be interested. Good lord. Little on edge are ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn04 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 If I was trying to denIgrate them, I'd say Penn was two overtime points away from beating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornton Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 You did state 3 facts, but why omit a 4th fact...Penn put their best team on the mat? Defiinely not on edge here...just want everyone to get the full picture. It was a great match and a great effort by Penn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Penn 19 PM 31. Duals were 6 to 8. Perry used zero reserves. What was the head to head results ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwrestler Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 The amount of excuses Penn fans have made for their team this year, win or lose, is unreal. "We were two overtime points away from winning," "we wrestled a bunch of JV guys," etc., etc. I don't think Coach Harper would put a lineup on the mat that he thought didn't give Penn its best possible chance to win. Seems to me that you guys have a pretty bad inferiority complex, must have something to do with all those years spent playing second fiddle to Mishawaka... You've got a solid team that's having a good season, but I'm sorry to say you're not on Perry's level. Try making fewer excuses and enjoying it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn04 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 Everything I've said is a statement of fact. Just because my name has Penn in it doesn't mean I'm making excuses. I mean do you understand the difference between a fact and an excuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwrestler Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Everything I've said is a statement of fact. Just because my name has Penn in it doesn't mean I'm making excuses. I mean do you understand the difference between a fact and an excuse? Y2's patented "I'm only stating facts, this isn't an opinion" defense. What you're doing is picking and choosing "facts" to state in order to make the implication that Penn "deserved" to win the match. For example, by stating the "fact" that Perry wrestled "zero backups," you're making the implication that Penn wrestled "backups" (when in actuality, Penn makes a lot of rotations in their lineup, and your heavyweight hasn't been able to make weight for most of the season, so it's really irrelevant.) So, even though you repeatedly say you're just "stating facts" we all know that what you're really saying is "Penn didn't wrestle their best lineup and Perry did, so their win is less meaningful." Which is an opinion, and an excuse. I'm not exactly sure if you think I'm stupid, or are just a smug d-bag. My opinion is it's the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Good lord, sounds like u all need to put down the five energy drinks and chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachpierson Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Everything I've said is a statement of fact. Just because my name has Penn in it doesn't mean I'm making excuses. I mean do you understand the difference between a fact and an excuse? lets not say anything about the 3 overtime matches you won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingmhs Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 How many Blue Rings does Penn have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 It was a very good dual and a fun one to watch... tied with three matches left and then PM winning two of those matches in OT..... as a fan of the sport it was very exciting .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssfan Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 It was a very good dual and a fun one to watch... tied with three matches left and then PM winning two of those matches in OT..... as a fan of the sport it was very exciting .... Sounds great, any match by match details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixofus Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Ageed it was a amazing Dual! I don't believe anyone is disrespecting Perry they are ranked and deservedly so #1...but today a very solid Penn Team pushed ...and then a very solid Bloomington South team beat Penn Is it not alright to want to push and compete and yes hopefully one day beat Perry? Until this point "untouchable" was always the feeling I think if nothing else today showed one of these teams could upset Perry--not today maybe not this year but it should give hope to all the other teams in the state. Isnt that what will make Indiania a great wrestling state? Wrestlingmhs ..crawl back in your cave and it wasnt until the last two years that perry won theirs but that doesn't mean Penn can't work towards that type of accomplishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn04 Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 Y2's patented "I'm only stating facts, this isn't an opinion" defense. What you're doing is picking and choosing "facts" to state in order to make the implication that Penn "deserved" to win the match. For example, by stating the "fact" that Perry wrestled "zero backups," you're making the implication that Penn wrestled "backups" (when in actuality, Penn makes a lot of rotations in their lineup, and your heavyweight hasn't been able to make weight for most of the season, so it's really irrelevant.) So, even though you repeatedly say you're just "stating facts" we all know that what you're really saying is "Penn didn't wrestle their best lineup and Perry did, so their win is less meaningful." Which is an opinion, and an excuse. I'm not exactly sure if you think I'm stupid, or are just a smug d-bag. My opinion is it's the latter. Everything stated here is so ridiculous that I don't know where to start. I did not imply that Penn deserved the win. NEVER did I even come close to implying that. If Penn deserved the win, they would have won. The scoring rules for a team in a dual format in folkstyle wrestling are cut and dry. In saying that PM wrestled no back ups, I was INFORMING anyone reading that it was their full line up. Immediate reaction to a score that close with Perry could be that they wrestled back ups. I was simply denouncing that in advance. The overtimes notation was a reaction to a comment, not a hint that Penn should have won. But please continue with the name calling. That's he only accurate and entertaining part of your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Penn I agree, thanks for the info. You reported the facts, Guys like Thornton? These are the trolls on the board. You have every right to report the facts as you see them.Again thanks, keep posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Anybody else split 6-8 with Perry this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDeedsWrastlin Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 If anyone has the individual results could you please post them. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn04 Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 Anybody else split 6-8 with Perry this year? Based on their results this year, I can't believe that anyone else has taken 6 off them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn04 Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 If anyone has the individual results could you please post them. Thanks Top of my head: Stasiak dec Koehring Woods dec An Winfield dec Stohler Hildebrandt dec Johnson Davis dec Cottey Kenney dec Beam James TF Selis LeCount maj Curcio Bova maj Reinhardt Mammolenti maj Fagan Manspeaker dec Cooper McClurg dec Osborn Warman dec Wiseman Masengale pin Hummel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki27 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 They are on broadcastsport.net round 3 mat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornton Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Penn I agree, thanks for the info. You reported the facts, Guys like Thornton? These are the trolls on the board. You have every right to report the facts as you see them.Again thanks, keep posting. I don't know who you are, but let me give you a bit of background on this "troll". I have been a teacher and coach at Perry Meridian high school for 20 years. The reason that I have not been more visible at events the past couple of years is because I have been battling colon cancer. I have been an obvious Falcon supporter for those 20 years, but am also recognized as an unbiased and knowledgeable observer, even when Perry is involved. You say Penn04 "reported the facts". Well there is a reason that when in court you are instructed to give the truth, THE WHOLE TRUTH, and nothing but the truth. The reason is because only presenting some of the facts leads to an incomplete picture...something less than what actually happened. By reporting less than the whole truth you expose your ulterior motive of wanting to delegitimize Perry's win and elevate Penn's status when simply giving a full report would elevate them to the #2 ranking (in my opinion). Penn wrestled a great match. They did everything they could have to win and came up a little short. Don't try to make it any more than that. And if you grant to Penn04 "every right to report facts as you see them" (which would really be opinion, as opposed to factual reporting), then that courtesy should be extended to all, even those with whom you disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I more fact Penn lost to BS. So Penn isn't no.1 or2 or even3 so we can put this sudject to rest .A question did Penn wrestle the same lineup against B S as they did PM. Also great job by the falcons success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMWC2009 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Anybody else split 6-8 with Perry this year? Does it matter how many matches you win, if you still lose the Dual?? If Penn won 9 matches by decision and Perry won 5 by pin, who wins the match?? If it's and but's were CANDY and NUTS, we would all have a Merry Christmas!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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