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Lecount down by 1 with 30 seconds left, gets a reversal and locks up the inside cradle for the pin with 10 seconds on the clock. Wow

Sinkovics over Cottey 5-2, Forte and Lecount up now

At Mooresville: 126: McCormick (Yorktown) over Belden (Westfield) 1-0 152: Kelley (Evansville Central) over Carroll (Yorktown) 5-2

He is currently in surgery, any and all prayers are welcomed. He is in the thoughts and prayers of the Homestead wrestling family as well.

So you admit that IU is a below average Big 10 team (putting it nicely), but argue that they compare favorably to "mid-major" DI programs. However, the Big 10 comparison is the only one that matters. The only schools that the best of the best Indiana wrestlers are considering are Big 10 schools or other schools on the same competitive level (Big 12, etc.), and the fact remains that in comparison to those schools, IU is not a good program. As an IU student, I don't have any inside information and only follow the team casually, but I will say that I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have heard a positive statement about the head coach.

Kind of surprised no one has brought this up yet. For the 2016 Olympics in Rio, one weight class will be cut from men's freestyle and greco, and two will be added to women's freestyle, meaning there will be six weight classes in each style. According to the AP, FILA proposed the change in order to "create more equality as wrestling tries to remain in the Olympics for the 2020 Summer Games." Is this good for the sport or not? And which weight class will be cut? In my opinion, it would make the most sense to merge the 55 and 60 kg weight classes into a 58 kg class in order to avoid even larger gaps in the middleweights than there already are.

What a throw in his last high school match... Wow

And with that post, it looks like the discussion is pretty much closed, haha. Crazy that there have been 45 different weight classes over the years.

Once again, I'm extremely impressed with the stats that you obviously have saved in an Excel document on your desktop. However, if you were at least semi-intelligent, you would realize that you completely missed the point of my post. Of course, on AVERAGE (there's a statistical term for you), upperclassmen generally have the upper hand on underclassmen from weight to weight, due to "experience, physical maturity and mental maturity," as you said. However, if you actually look up from the statbook and watch wrestling, it is obvious that at the state level, the large majority of the underclassmen at the lighter weights are more skilled than the large majority of the upperclassmen at the heavier weights. This is simply due to the fact that a greater PERCENTAGE (there's another one) of lightweights spend much more time developing their wrestling skills than do heavyweights. I'm sure you could do a statistical analysis of all the posts on this site begging for wrestlers to fill upperweight spots on teams competing in offseason tournaments to prove that point. My question was why you automatically consider the lighter weights to be weaker than the heavier weights simply because they consist of a greater number of underclassmen, all of whom are "factually" inferior to upperclassman heavyweights (according to you) only because underclassmen don't "account for an equal amount of placings and qualifiers at state" across all weights. I know you have a much more firm grasp on numbers than common sense, but sometimes it'd serve you well to use the latter.

Just one more quick question, why are juniors and seniors automatically considered "better" wrestlers than freshmen or sophomores? Here we go again with the lightweight vs. heavyweight debate, but I can't resist saying something every time it comes up. Just to keep this post somewhat on topic though, I'll go out on a limb and say that, as a freshman, Jason Tsirtsis was a more skilled wrestler than any heavyweight that has ever wrestled in Indiana at any point in his high school career. Edit: Powerline, you might have just become my favorite poster on this board.

This might be the most immature and pathetic d!#k measuring contest I've ever seen on the internet, and that's really saying something.

This is true, but did Alex have the resume that Jason does at this point in his career? Jason just gave the national champ a heck of a match at the Midlands last season, losing 7-5. Of course if he struggles with injury everything changes, but if he stays healthy I don't see how he won't get at least one national title.

Jason Tsirtsis beat a soon-to-be Junior Freestyle champion at the state tournament as a freshman and a former DI national champion in freestyle as a senior... Hard to argue with those kind of results. Although for my money, Andrew Howe was the most dominant wrestler I've ever seen in Indiana.

Another couple of classic "we don't want to spread any rumors" posts that actually make the rumors worse by not specifying what allegedly happened. Why even bring it up in the first place?

Any specifics on what happened? This has piqued my interest