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  1. Thornton
    Brandon James wins 6-3.
  2. Thornton
    I know I am a broken record with this topic, but Gil Journey (Perry Meridian) was 3rd, 2nd, 2nd.
  3. Thornton
    I'm pretty sure Greg Schaefer was state champion at 119 pounds in 1997 or 1998 (he won against Shaun Richardson of Perry Meridian). Impressive list.
  4. Thornton
    I think Gelen wrestled Donte in the offseason before Donte's senior year and I think Donte won that one. Donte was very tough to score on.
  5. Thornton
    The match between Wes and Donte would be another UTB...whoever has choice gets the win.
  6. Thornton
    Perry Meridian: 1) Nathan Moore : 2-time champ, Fargo National champ, 1-time qualifier 2) Cody Lecount : 2-time champ, 2nd 3) Jared McKinley : 2-time champ, 4th, Q 4) Chico Adams : 2-time champ, 8th 5) Nick Walpole : champ, 2-time 3rd, DII National champ HM: Frank Hammond : Champ, 2nd Gil Journey : 2nd, 2nd, 3rd
  7. Thornton
    You would be correct that we do not recruit or cheat. Jim Schoettle has constructed an alternate history of events that simply never happened. He says he doesn't want to use the kids names but the truth is there is nothing to tell. Nothing will be exposed because there is nothing to expose.
  8. Thornton
    I just talked to Matt at lunch and he said he has no idea what you are talking about.
  9. Thornton
    So now you are taking a personal shot at my intelligence? I changed the font size on your quote, but your embedded font size for your S was smaller. It wasn't meant as a slight to you. You say I am not being civil. Pot meet kettle.
  10. Thornton
    This post is seething with arrogance. And you are a liar about Perry recruiting and cheating.
  11. Thornton
    Couldn't agree more!!
  12. Thornton
    Jim, read your post. It is seething with inaccuracies and nonsense. As a professional educator, I learn new things all of the time. If you come up with something to teach me, I'll be happy to listen. Waiting patiently.
  13. Thornton
    look back a few posts when you mentioned BG, LN, Elwood, FC...did you have another BG in mind other than Beech Grove? Which of our titles would we not have won, but for move in?
  14. Thornton
    First, you never asked me not to mention names and even if you did, I am a grown man and don't need to take directions from you. As for needing to elaborate, yes you need to elaborate. You get on this board and make veiled accusations about a program I have devoted 21 years to, with no specifics and, dare I say, no proof. You say we are not a clean program. Don't mince words...spit it out. What are you accusing us of? I am also still curious where you get this claim of my being arrogant. If you say bragging about the titles, I will once again say I only brought that up when another post hinted that we could not compete with the big dogs. Air the dirty laundry, if you can find any.
  15. Thornton
    I don't remember anyone saying anything about Riley coming here. I guess it became an issue when he became a state champion here. Cody is a Perry Meridian kid...he wrestled in our middle school. I think you may have the Center Grove moves going the wrong direction: it has been our kids going there...as for Corny, he lived in Perry Township last year and only wrestled at FC due to a personal issue and his success was only realized after he came here. As for Brandon, his family made a choice to send him here. Three years ago, only Cody was varsity (of the wrestlers mentioned). That is a pretty thinly stacked deck with 0 move ins. Two years ago only Cody and Brandon were varsity. Kids like Cottey, Kenny, Bova, McKinley, Masengale, 2 Coopers, Tasseff, Winfield, Johnson...all Perry guys...thats where we won those titles...last year we added Riley, who did win it all, but still Cottey was 5th, Bova 7th, Masengale 2nd, Lecount and Winfield both champions with our dreaded move in James finishing 5th. You say we stacked the deck, implying something nefarious. I say we made a state championship team just that much stronger. To summarize, the title in 2011 was all PM kids. The title in 2012 was won with Brandon's help. The title in 2013 was won with Riley and Brandon's help. I contend we would have won these titles without move ins...it was more fun winning with them. This team, this program has been built thorugh hard work and countless weekends competing and coaches there every step of the way. If others come here of their own volition, we can't stop it. But it is not part of some illegal or unethical plan.
  16. Thornton
    First nickname that comes to mind is related to the moniker of Edmund Dantes...are you ready...Cody Lecount of Monte Cristo...sorry, I'm a book nerd.
  17. Thornton
    I only mentioned math because you broached the subject...I'll let it go if you wish. I still fail to see my alledged arrogance. Pride in one's achievements is a hallmark of mankind, not something of which to be ashamed. With all due respect to C.S. Lewis, there are sins far worse than Pride...like harming a child or how about murder. I have always encouraged our kids to win with class because winners let their actions speak for themselves. But when someone insinuates that we can compete with "the big dogs", I like to respectfully disagree and use facts to support my argument. Now if the fact that we have won the last 3 state titles is a irritation for you, I can do nothing about that. I will not apologize for our success. Now if you could explain how we won with a "stacked deck", I would enjoy continuing this conversation. Finally, thank you for the prayers...the man upstairs must be listening because he is taking care of me.
  18. Thornton
    Didn't the Fishers kid at 182 last year get 4th at New Castle, then place 4th at state?
  19. Thornton
    First of all Jim, I don't know what admission you feel is so earth-shattering that it requires inclusion in your "files". What math game would you like to play? Also, I don't know where you get the idea that I am arrogant. I taught your son and have always been a humble servant to my community.
  20. Thornton
    The reason I wrote that was because you were reponding to a Perry person, so I took it as a shot at us. As I stated, no rules were broken...and I don't begrudge you sending Wes to Cathedral. As you stated, both you and Matt went there (but Matt and Nolan also both went to Perry)...that is your choice. My point was that we at Perry don't see nearly the volume of move-ins that Cathedral does because virtually everyone at Cathedral is a "move in". They don't have a district, per se...they can pull students from as far as they are willing to travel (I assume). We at Perry have tried to build our program with a strong elementary program, a great middle school, a top-notch high school complete with deep greco and fs roots. If others come here, they do it on their own, but that is not our focus. I would say this, however...we do have a large number of move outs as well.
  21. Thornton
    Bob, I think our 3 state titles prove we can play with the big boys. And while we have had a couple of move ins, you can't really equate that with what Cathedral can do. No one is saying it is against the rules...we just operate in 2 different worlds.
  22. Thornton
    To whom do you refer?
  23. Thornton
    Cathedral's cupboard will hardly be bare next year. They have Bailey, Turner, Harvey, Stewart and Rypel among others returning. The Irish will be strong again next year.
  24. Thornton
    at 120 - Red, Sinkovics or Knapp - you got the middle draw at 132 - you got the worst draw at 138 - Covaciu, Pruitt or Ellinger - you got probably the best draw at 145 - Forte, Loe or Lecount - Loe would have been best, but only 1/3 chance of that at 160 - you got Hiestand, would you have preferred Mammolenti or Corsaro? at 170 - Jackson may have been better, but Osborn would have been worse not the best draws, but not the worst either...at this point not only has the wheat been sperated from the chaff, but some of the wheat has been left behind as well. So I guess I would agree with the original poster that SOME of the draws are awful.
  25. Thornton
    Can't we have the best of both worlds??? Let Hartman appear as a state qualifier and walk in the parade of champions. AND let Black do the same and compete in that spot. This solution harms no one and everyone involved gets something positive.
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