Wrestlingfan182 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I would go with a 42-22 win for PM. That sounds about right who has scored the most points on Perry in the last Two years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overtime Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 From just being at the county tournament. I see WC having 5 wins against Perry. All five are their county champs. @20, 95, and 220 they could get bonus. Outside those five I guess they could say toss ups @82 and HWT since both went into OT's at the county. I would say Perry would win 9.5 times out of ten. I could see Warren putting up the most points bc of bonus. But Perry sticks @13, 26, 32, 38, 52, and 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 From just being at the county tournament. I see WC having 5 wins against Perry. All five are their county champs. @20, 95, and 220 they could get bonus. Outside those five I guess they could say toss ups @82 and HWT since both went into OT's at the county. I would say Perry would win 9.5 times out of ten. I could see Warren putting up the most points bc of bonus. But Perry sticks @13, 26, 32, 38, 52, and 60. I agree completely Perry is a Dynasty in the making amonst us, But!!! #2 is the question who has scored the most against PM the last two yrs?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somecoolguy Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 could the #2 team in the state be Perry's JV team?? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 could the #2 team in the state be Perry's JV team?? lol Tell ya the truth probably, I know a few years ago Varsity and JV was tight? Would love to see the practice room this season top comp. in the room. They work hard and are much deserving!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I agree with the title of this thread. Perry Meridian and Franklin are definitely the top 2 teams in the state. Decbell I'm a little curious to what you see in the common opponents to make you believe Franklin is #2 ? Perry Meridian -40 Penn- 15 Perry Meridian-46 Franklin - 11 Penn- 35 Bloomington S-26 Franklin - 29 Bloomington S - 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 If you think the only thing that goes into team rankings is comparing team dual scores, you are sorely mistaken. You can't rank teams without projections of matches and match ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapplette96 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Sounds to me like there needs to be a Franklin vs. Penn match up to settle this to find out who is really #2. Am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Sounds to me like there needs to be a Franklin vs. Penn match up to settle this to find out who is really #2. Am I right? Throw WC in there js Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 If you think the only thing that goes into team rankings is comparing team dual scores, you are sorely mistaken. You can't rank teams without projections of matches and match ups. Well give us the matchups and projected results then please . Heres mine 106- Franklin Major 4-0 113- Penn Dec 4-3 120- Penn Fall 4-9 126- Penn Dec 4-12 132- Franklin Dec 7-12 138- Penn Major 7-16 145- Penn Major 7-20 152- Franklin Dec 10-20 160- Franklin Major 14-20 170- Franklin Dec 17-20 182- Franklin Dec 20-20 195- Penn Dec 20-23 220- Franklin Major 24-23 285- Penn Fall 24-29 Each team wins 7 matches and Penn is your winner . Won't these two teams wrestle at Bellmont ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I know Penn comes to Bellmont. Franklin has not been there in the past, but I might be wrong. I have Franklin winning by 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I have Franklin vsWC 106 Fra 3-0 113 Fra 6-0 120 WC 6-4 126 WC 6-7 132 Fra 9-7 138 WC 9-10 145 WC 9-13 152 Fra 12-13 160 Fra 15-13 170 Fra 18-13 182 Fra 21-13 195 WC 21-17 220 WC 21-20 HWT WC. 21-26 WC Winning by 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PURDUEdad Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Franklin has their own Super Six the same weekend as Bellmont, Jan 5th. Penn came down to the other Franklin Super Six last year (Franklin won), but Franklin had to not schedule that this year to free up the matches for the state tournament last week. With all due respect, I think Franklin would win 8 or 9 matches if they wrestled this year. I also think Franklin would get more bonus points than the above scenario allowed for, especially at 106, 160 and 182. It's too bad that the teams in the winner's bracket didn't get to wrestle a round robin, like at the Traicoff. That extra match would've allowed Penn and Franklin to wrestle . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Franklin has their own Super Six the same weekend as Bellmont, Jan 5th. Penn came down to the other Franklin Super Six last year (Franklin won), but Franklin had to not schedule that this year to free up the matches for the state tournament last week. With all due respect, I think Franklin would win 8 or 9 matches if they wrestled this year. I also think Franklin would get more bonus points than the above scenario allowed for, especially at 106, 160 and 182. It's too bad that the teams in the winner's bracket didn't get to wrestle a round robin, like at the Traicoff. That extra match would've allowed Penn and Franklin to wrestle . . . Not to make excuses , but Penn was without a couple starters last year . And no way Franklin takes 8-9 matches . What did they take from Perry this year 3 ??? Penn took 5 from Perry . You could be right about Franklin getting more bonus points , but Penn could get falls at 138, 145 and 195 as well . Smith is a stud at 106 but I don't see him pinning or tech falling Hildebrandt, I'll stick with the major . Franklins best shot at a fall might be 160 but again I'll stick with the major as Kriech and Seth Seitzinger from Bloomimgton South seem to be pretty even wrestlers . Seitzinger beat Penn's Osborn 11-3 . And at 170 , I gave the decision to Franklin , but it would be close . Franklins wrestler lost to Perry's Warman , where Penn's Jeff Wiseman beat Warman 7-2 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I know Penn comes to Bellmont. Franklin has not been there in the past, but I might be wrong. I have Franklin winning by 5. Give us your weights that Franklin wins . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Spires Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 106 - Franklin maj. 4-0 113 - Franklin dec. 7-0 120 - Penn maj. 7-4 126 - Penn dec. 7-7 132 - Penn dec. 7-10 138 - Penn maj. 7-14 145 - Penn fall. 7-20 152 - Franklin dec. 10-20 160 - Franklin tech. 15-20 170 - Penn dec. 15-23 182 - Franklin fall. 21-23 195 - Penn dec. 21-26 220 - Franklin dec. 24-26 285 - Penn fall. 24-32 My take on what it might look like if they faced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 There is a lot of discussion about who should be #2.... Perry is far out in front right now that 2nd or 3rd is almost irrelevant because of the gap... Warren, Penn, Franklin and Bloomington South can all make cases for their team to be #2.... Do any of these schools wrestle in a dual this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 There is a lot of discussion about who should be #2.... Perry is far out in front right now that 2nd or 3rd is almost irrelevant because of the gap... Warren, Penn, Franklin and Bloomington South can all make cases for their team to be #2.... Do any of these schools wrestle in a dual this year? Looks like BS and WC will face off at the North Montgomery duals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 There is a lot of discussion about who should be #2.... Perry is far out in front right now that 2nd or 3rd is almost irrelevant because of the gap... Warren, Penn, Franklin and Bloomington South can all make cases for their team to be #2.... Do any of these schools wrestle in a dual this year? Penn and Franklin both beat Bloomington South at the Ihswca team state last weekend . At one point in the Penn BS match , the score was like 30-3 . Penn wrestled 3 JV wrestlers in that match . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1oldwrestler Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Penn and Franklin both beat Bloomington South at the Ihswca team state last weekend . At one point in the Penn BS match , the score was like 30-3 . Penn wrestled 3 JV wrestlers in that match . Im all for teams that are big enuff to have a varsity and "jv" teams travel the state on the same weekends but gotta say im sick of the fans of those teams getting on here and stating how, at a high quality dual, a team had x number of jv wrestlers going. I call b.s. Whatever kids were going at that iswca tourney were varsity. No way harper wouldnt have put his best wrestlers out there that would give him the best chance to win. One of the best teams in IL, Carl Sandburg, lists 20 varsity wrestlers on thier squad. Kind puts to rest this jv/varsity b.s. They just rotate those 20 during thier dual competitions and get the best match ups possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuneFan Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I think you would have to add Crown Point into the discussion as to the number 2 team. True, they did loseto Franklin at the Traicoff, but it came down to the last match at 152. Crown Point's Dusty Schurg was still out with a concussion he suffered against last years Illinois state champ at the Stagg. The score was 2 to 1 when they bumped heads. Other than that his only other loss was 8-7 against a ranked kid from Lyons Twp in Illinois. AlsoCrown Point's number 1 285lber was still out with a concussion he suffered at the Warsaw invite. At this invite he got the fastest pin of the year at that weight. I don't think they will do all that well at individual state, but as a dual team they should be in the fray for number 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Now with WC beating BS they should jump to 4th I would think .It really don't matter from here on out If Perry wasn't so dominate this could be very intesting. I think with already having Team state it takes some of the excitement out of the duals all we have now is what ifs!! Penn,Franklin, and WC are all right even would be nice to see who is really 2. Should at Ind State do it like college and add the scores up there?? There needs to be something for Teams awarding them at the end of the season . It don't matter this year cause the dominance of Perry but years to come might be different. like in ten years maybe someone might catch up with the Falcons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 That previous post is solid gold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Now with WC beating BS they should jump to 4th I would think .It really don't matter from here on out If Perry wasn't so dominate this could be very intesting. I think with already having Team state it takes some of the excitement out of the duals all we have now is what ifs!! Penn,Franklin, and WC are all right even would be nice to see who is really 2. Should at Ind State do it like college and add the scores up there?? There needs to be something for Teams awarding them at the end of the season . It don't matter this year cause the dominance of Perry but years to come might be different. like in ten years maybe someone might catch up with the Falcons Franklin still #2 buddy. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Franklin still #2 buddy. Sorry Maybe?? But barely squeked by EMD today.Why even keep track from here out nothing will change know matter what.The dual season might as well be over nothing is goin to change now cause the teams 2-4 will not meet again so in your head Franklin is.Someone else its Penn??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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