Y2CJ41 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 103 Elmore HH- FF FWN Harmon BG- Adams NC Westerfield Bate- Fehler BNL Luster TC- Unger Carr Ofarrell CON- FF We Johnson CEN- Swift SD Devine CATH- McGinley RON FF BR- Buckley VAL FF NE-Krumlauf DEK Aldridge EVN- Collier PH Moore GFC- FF UC Condo FC- Houghton HAG Speaker COLN-FF Preb Wilson ARL-Blessing IC Talbott LEB-Hand MI FF RI- Kuhn ER 112 Phillips UC- FF NE Bryan BATE/Speaker COLN Byrd BNL/Davis BG Duncan TC/Ables CARR Querry WE/Hummel CATH Tipton CENN/Gaut NC Frane DEK/Hinton EVN FFT PREB/King RON Gettinger CONN/FFT RICH Johns EVR/Miller FWN Orschell FC/Mullins GFC Shook HAG/Staebler HAMH Gonzalez ARL/Scott BR Gatton IC/Noah LEB George VALPO/Meyer MI FFT SD/Todd PH 119 Vanhook EVR/FFT FWN Jefferson BR/Mix DEK Koury BATE/Bravo VALPO Schmith BG/Wilmer CARR Miliron CENN/Braye EVN McFarland CONN/Apsley FC Shepherd WE/Stewart TC FFT BNL/Julien LEB FFT PREB/Farrell GFC Bailey RON/Cox HAG Money MI/Ford ARL Dotson HAMH/Evans SD Fuller UC/Myah NC Guard NE/Gomez COLN Hupp IC/Lowe PH FFT RICH/Venesizia CATH 125 Kieffer RON/Gartenman BATE Fehler BNL/Raab SD Browder BG/Blanchard CARR Cahill VALPO/Larson CATH Britten WE/Green CENN Stansberry UC/Poynter DEK Locke GFC/Straber TC Powell EVN/Port RICH Garcia FWN/Wilson PREB Lakin FC/Foley PH Bottomley CONN/Wages NE Purtha HAG/Mwiinga NC Powell HAMH/Harrell COLN Landers ARL/Henry MI Mansfield BR/Campbell LEB Lyman IC/Moody EVR 130 Harvey CATH/FFT FC Gray RICH/Tobert IC Celaya BATE/Hinkle WE Bennington BNL/Taresh CENN Louzon BG/Malcolm CARR Miller VALPO/McMaken DEK Williams EVN/Hartman UC FFT NE/Campbell LEB FFT PREB/Ray PH Schnarr EVR/Miller SD Mayhugh GFC/Lashley COLN Harts HAMH/Vance BR Duncan ARL/McNeelan MI Malby HAG/Ford FWN Muller NC/Ader RON FFT TC/House CONN 135 Raley IC/FFT PREB Matherhict BR/Strub BATE Rosario VALPO/Magers BNL Clark CARR/Braden WE Hass CATH/Garrod UC Miller TC/Handley NE Utterback SD/Smith NC Roberts BG/Dowdy EVR Hunter HAMH/Brummett DEK Killon CENN/Woodall CONN Sartain HAG/Camacho EVN Braun FN/Thomas ARL Hale LEB/Young GFC Beard MI/Bowman COLN McCool PH/Young FC Richardson RICH/Kieffer RON 140 Reuger EVR/Harney ARL Doehrman BATE/Whitely PH Fields BNL/Louzon BG McGaha COLN/Yatsko MI Lefever CARR/Campbell CENN Jones NC/Avery BR Hufford VALPO/Adame DEK Corsaro CATH/Eldridge EVN Gaston FWN/McCoy FC Hoskins GFC/Scott HAG Hodson HAMH/Lynn IC Wright LEB/Degroat CONN Bieker NE/Dougherty PREB Day RICH/Shaw SD Shepherd WE/Mohr TC Frasur UC/Kieffer RON 145 Schildmeier HAMH/Edwards NC Miller TC/Appell EVR Lenahan CATH/Zielnskie RON Shepherd WE/Allen ARL Ruff GFC/Stevens RICH Timmerman CARR/Wethington IC Grinstead PH/Feller FC McClurg BG/Wilson HAG Mouras BNL/Edwards UC Helms BR/Trammill EVN Aimers COLN/Turner VALPO Nunlist BATE/Mason DEK O'Neal MI/Barron SD Gordon FWN/Boardman CENN Beard LEB/Finney NE Maple CONN/Weller PREB 152 Lefever CARR/FFT NE Bogan EVR/VanCamp LEB Hamm CATH/Puente BATE Neal VALPO/Blackwell BNL Hoffrogge MI/Rodriguez FWN Stickford TC/Smith COLN Gesell UC/Rhodus CENN Day CONN/Snodgrass IC Mason DEK/Emerson SD Dickens EVN/Gellinger RICH Precht FC/Rojas RON Nuckols GFC/Mcintosh PREB Cox HAG/Stevenson PH Sloderbeck HAMH/Fuller ARL Ford NC/Earl BR Sevion BG/Lenahan WE 160 Lefever CARR/FFT NE Sloderbeck HAMH/Kelly NC Deal BATE/Bowman TC Young BNL/Pinkiston BG Todderud CATH/Baldwin VALPO Rivers DEk/Wright EVN Love WE/Ison MI Gross RICH/Huffman CONN Harnsihfeger FC/McGinley GFC Fox HAG/Day ARL Lloyd BR/Snodgrass IC Ridge LEB/Nicholson PH Ardizzone RON/Hess PREB Thies SD/Krom UC FFT CENN/Holt COLN 171 Willis CATH/FFT HAG Berger UC/Bland COLN Wiechmann WE/Raines HAMH Howard BATE/Hartmann NE Roberts BNL/Prather MI Woehler BG/Enrietto CARR Bell CENN/Henke VALPO Wilson BR/King EVR Manning SD/Cooper TC Early GFC/Grabow PREB Knick DEK/Campbell EVN Johnson FWN/O'Neal FC Bolos CONN/Perdue ARL Peiffer IC/Showalter LEB Gipson PH/Albertson RON Tout RICH/Smith NC 189 Stevenson IC/FFT HAG Flores ARL/Nickell RON Gunter BATE/Richard PREB Ramsey BNL/Mueller BG Giles CATH/Davis VALPO Fletcher CENN/Shoffner WE Stilwell PH/Clark DEK Grimes UC/Lane EVN Marvel CONN/Castle BR Elbarrassi TC/James EVR Mathias SD/Davidson FC Sprinkles RICH/Isaacs HAMH Jewett MI/Hogue NC Wilburn GFC/Gregory FWN Martin LEB/Teague COLN FFT NE/Rahypole CARR 215 Reese IC/FFT HAG Hutchinson ARL/Gearlds FC Cambron COLN/Kreuzman BATE New BNL/Nava VALPO Garcia BG/Andis CARR Hilsky CONN/Halcomb MI Bernard CATH/Babcock CENN Coleman DEK/Tucker RON Powell EVN/McDorman WE Schnarr EVR/Rader UC Davis FWN/Reeser TC Brown FC/McCance HAMH Jones BR/Ryle SD Butler LEB/Weireter RICH Wilson NC/Davis PREB Crigler NE/Smitherman PH 285 Henson NC/FFT NE Clark COLN/Schapker EVR Wright RICH/Babb PH Harrison BNL/Schooler VALPO McClure CARR/Penning WE Kinney CATH/Ramsey UC Calderon CENN/Huffman TC Phillips CONN/Hooten BATE Decker BG/Shoemaker DEK Case SD/Jones EVN Pawlecki RON/Walker FWN McIntosh PREB/Widmer FC Pencil LEB/Porter HAMH Watson MI/Dorsey ARL Johnson BR/Wysong HAG Beeson GFC/Stevenson IC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Wrestler 2006 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I can guarantee that these brackets will not be the same.....every year people change weight classes the morning of and some of the weight classes will have to be re-drawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just1guy Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Hey Joe who did you bribe to get the brackets? Or did your 007 spy finally get out of enemy territory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 24, 2010 Author Share Posted December 24, 2010 I can guarantee that these brackets will not be the same.....every year people change weight classes the morning of and some of the weight classes will have to be re-drawn. There will be minor changes with names, but I am pretty confident that there will only be name changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogoplata89 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Yeah..those look like a total blind draw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 it seems to me like the just tried to keep the former state qualifiers and ranked wrestlers seperated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RankingsGuy Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 it seems to me like the just tried to keep the former state qualifiers and ranked wrestlers seperated also known as seeding... : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 also known as seeding... : I don't think it's competely seeded some weight classes look like only the top 2 or 3 are seeded. For example at 285 it looks like the top 3 are seeded but at the spot where tyhe 4th seed would be spotted neither on of the wrestlers would be a 4th seed but 112 looks like they seed the top 4. I'm not even sure if 145 is even seed based on the other brackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theckman Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 What team is PREB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numberz Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 I believe PREB is Preble Shawnee, OH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogoplata89 Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 To me, and this is just my opinion and may not mean anything, but I believe they need to seed the damn thing or do a totally blind draw. If you are gonna separate kids just seed it and have a meeting so coaches have a chance to get their kids the best opportunity to place high. Or do a complete blind draw that way it is fair to everyone and not just keep a few kids out and draw everyone else. Everyone should have a fair shot if the tourney is not seeded. I don't know the whole thing of separating a few kids and then drawing and calling it a "blind draw" is sketchy to me. I think if it is gonna be a "blind draw" every kid should have the same chance to wrestle any kid, so what if Todd and Phillips, and whom ever have to wrestle in the first round? That is the nature of the beast. If they are gonna separate they might as well seed. No sense in doing it half way just for a few kids. Like I have said, the Al smith can seed, so can Connersville, but if they are going to do it, they need to do it right. End rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hawaiian Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 What team is CENN folks? Looks seeded to anyone who knows the top wrestlers, and no way is it fair to just seed a few in each weight class. Why shouldn't everybody have the same odds to draw the studs in the first round? The studs are the studs and should not need the advantage of the draw to not see other studs until the end, if Joe Smith doesn't get the same advantage. It's like Kolbe getting the benifit of the ref's calls when he's already the best player on the floor, he's already the best player and it's crap to get a unfair advantage that the average guy wont get. I would like to see it seeded myself but not just the top 2 - 4 guys!! It's flat wrong ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 It may be all seeded the same I dunno every wrestler in the tourney I just don't think every weight class is seeded the same. for example at 145 i'm pretty sure there's no state qualifiers from the past but I know of 4 semi-state qualifiers but based out the other brackets none of those semi-state qualifiers are seeded if that bracket is seeded. Edwards from NC is ranked in the state but all the other weight classes the one seed is the very top left but edwards is the top right. Maybe that's just the only weight class that they messed up where they placed the one seed but 145 hardly seems seeded compare to some of the other weight classes. I know at 285 the wrestler placed for the 4th seed is a freshman that is 200 pounds and I believe with a 2-6 record, now the guy he's facing could be the 4th seed but I don't think he even went to regionals last year. I agree though they should seed every weight class the same with at least 6 probably 8 seeds or don't seed any. I have no problems with it not being seeded if they're just going to give some wrestlers the advantage but not others. Plus to me it looks like some teams which I'm not going to name as the best draws for their wrestlers in every weight class. I'm pretty sure there's some teams that aren't matched up with any 1 seeds in the first 3 rounds. Though that team could have gotten extremly lucky. I also know there's a team that is matches up with a 1 seed with in the first 3 rounds in all but 2 weight class. which wouldn't be a problem if there wasn't a team with none. I know that's never happen to batesville back when none of it was seed. but I'm sure there's more teams in that situation. I just feel that it would be different if there was full seeds. sry it's late and I just ranted so everything I said is probably pointless. I just feel every weight class should be made the exact same way. I just got bored and did a lot of thinking. By the way Cenn is centerville I think based on the fact that centerville is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
119@88 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Finals predictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Here I go note that I have not seen everone wrestle and I'm goinf off of the past and I may leen towards the wrestling I've seen already this year. 103: Elmore over Kuhn 112: Philips over Todd 119: Farrel over VanHook 125: Kiefer over Moody 130: Harvey over House 135: Raley over Keiffer 140: Keiffer over Reuger 145: Feller over Maple (this weight class could be wrong I just don't know who's all the best... I have Feller beating Edwards though) 152: Levever over... Rojas I guess I don't know a whole lot about this one either 160: Levever over Holt 171: Willis over Manning (I haven't seen Willis this year but Manning may beable to win this one) 189: Stevenson over Jewett (Jewett looks good this year I don't know much about the guy from Carrol so this might be him instead) 215: Reece over Smitherson 285: Henson over Stevenson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hawaiian Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Here I go note that I have not seen everone wrestle and I'm goinf off of the past and I may leen towards the wrestling I've seen already this year. 103: Elmore over Kuhn 112: Philips over Todd 119: Farrel over VanHook 125: Kiefer over Moody 130: Harvey over House 135: Raley over Keiffer 140: Keiffer over Reuger 145: Feller over Maple (this weight class could be wrong I just don't know who's all the best... I have Feller beating Edwards though) 152: Levever over... Rojas I guess I don't know a whole lot about this one either 160: Levever over Holt 171: Willis over Manning (I haven't seen Willis this year but Manning may beable to win this one) 189: Stevenson over Jewett (Jewett looks good this year I don't know much about the guy from Carrol so this might be him instead) 215: Reece over Smitherson 285: Henson over Stevenson I have to disagree with your thought of Manning being able to beat Willis at 171lbs, because when Tyler is healthy it's going to take some kind of special athlete to beat him. I'll take Willis by a couple takedowns.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 I have to disagree with your thought of Manning being able to beat Willis at 171lbs, because when Tyler is healthy it's going to take some kind of special athlete to beat him. I'll take Willis by a couple takedowns.... I didn't say Manning was going to I said he MIGHT beable. Like I said I haven't seen Willis wrestle this year but I'm seen Manning and Manning might be that special athlete in fact I predicted Willis to win but I wouldn't count Manning out. Manning is probably the hardest work I've seen so far this year not to take away from the other wrestlers I've seen. If any one is going to beat Willis at connersville it's Manning. I haven't seen Willis this you so he might be out of Mannings reach but if he can beat Manning by a couple of takedowns he's my pick to win 171 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatheroftriplets Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Okay newbie Dad here wondering if at Connersville they wrestle the first day until they have the final 4 in winner's bracket and final 4 in the wrestleback bracket? OR is it just see how it goes kind of deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANMAN Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 If I remember correctly, its 2 rounds of championship bracket, followed by 3 rounds of consi's , the next day starts with I think 2 more rounds of championship bracket followed by consi's until final placements. The top 8 in each bracket are all wrestled at the same time. Hope this helps you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatheroftriplets Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Wow that makes for a long 2nd day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 If I remember correctly, its 2 rounds of championship bracket, followed by 3 rounds of consi's , the next day starts with I think 2 more rounds of championship bracket followed by consi's until final placements. The top 8 in each bracket are all wrestled at the same time. Hope this helps you. I believe that sounds right. I just remember you win your first two matches and you had a nice relaxing evening. You lose one of your first two matches and it will be a long night if you want to make it to day two. Nothing like winning your first two, going back to sleeping comfortably at the hotel early only to have your HWT (who worked his way to day 2) walk in the dark room, throw you off the bed, and claim the bed as his. The flood just doesn't help you get those extra moments of sleep you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 If I remember correctly, its 2 rounds of championship bracket, followed by 3 rounds of consi's , the next day starts with I think 2 more rounds of championship bracket followed by consi's until final placements. The top 8 in each bracket are all wrestled at the same time. Hope this helps you. first day is right... second day is quater finals, wrestle backs, Semi championship and quaterfinal consi at the same time, semi consi, finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatheroftriplets Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 So much for everyone,s bold predictions.....Phillips from Union County is out with the flu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Wrestler 2006 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Todd didn't come....heard he was too much over and coach sent him home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 28, 2010 Author Share Posted December 28, 2010 So both Phillips and Todd are MIA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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