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    #Wrestling Wednesday: Faulkens opens up about wrestling

    By STEVE KRAH

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    Robert Faulkens is the face of wrestling at the Indiana High School Athletic Association office.

     

    As an assistant commissioner, he administers IHSAA wrestling (as well as football and boys and girls track and field).

     

    Faulkens, who also sits on several National Federation of State High School Associations committees, oversees an annual online rules meeting for IHSAA wrestling officials and coaches.

     

    He also likes to take advantage of face-to-face opportunities, like the recent St. Joseph Valley Officials Association gathering in Granger. There, Faulkens got a chance to address a roomful of mat referees and area coaching staffs.

     

    Faulkens, who defines his job as someone who must be equitable to all 4,000 wrestlers and all 309 programs in Indiana and not just the elite, covered many topics and had a dialogue with those in attendance. Much of the discussion were on areas relating to participation.

     

    “Wrestling’s been in a decline for about four or five years,” Faulkens said of dropping participation numbers.

     

    He said the only thing propping up participation in Indiana is girls wrestling, which had about 300 competing on boys squads throughout the state last season. It’s a number too low to make it a separate sport. But if the numbers continue to rise it could happen in the future.

     

    “My guess is we’re eight or 10 years from pulling girls out and making it a separate sport,” Faulkens said. “the number of teams that have girls wrestling is very small. There are pockets of girls wrestling (currently, Lafayette Jeff and Crispus Attucks each have more than a dozen girls in their programs). Either you have them or you don’t. Very rarely do you have one girl wrestling. Normally you have four or five.”

     

    Faulkens sits on the national rules writing committee for the National Federation. The committee met last April and considered and approved a new two-piece uniform with a tight shirt and shorts. The rules regulators at the next level turned down the proposal, saying there was no uniformity in the specifications nor was there time to approve the change by October.

     

    “In April (2017), we’ll probably do it all over again and have to be more specific,” Faulkens said. “I think we’re about three years away (from the two-piece uniform).”

     

    What’s wrong with the singlet?

     

    “Kids are not wresting because they are a little bit embarrassed to wear the singlet,” Faukens said. “Participation numbers have dropped and that’s one of the reasons kids have decided they don’t want to wrestle.”

     

    What are some of the other reasons?

     

    The long weekend events have become a grind to many young athletes.

     

    Faulkens noted that there no joy in spending all day on a Saturday and losing five times and wrestling all of six minutes.

     

    “Why as a high school kid would I give up seven weekends to not have fun?,” Faulkens said.

     

    Many schools have schedules made up mostly of Saturday super duals or tournaments. The suggestion has been made from some in Indiana to increase the number of weeknight dual meets.

     

    Another reason is parents don’t want their kids to wrestle because they equate the sport with brawling.

     

    “They see wrestling as MMA or as Ultimate Fight Club,” Faulkens said. “As scholastic wrestlers we’re trying to distance ourselves from those two entities because of the negative connotation.”

     

    That’s why he resists calling the lower part of the two-piece uniform “fight” shorts.

     

    Faulkens talked about the relationship between football and wrestling — a natural partnership in some communities, but not in all places.

     

    He is a fan of multi-sport participation.

     

    “Those schools that share kids among sports are normally the ones who are successful over a long period of time,” Faulkens said. “We have some hard-headed football coaches that believe a kid should just play football in the fall and lift weights in the winter and spring.

     

    “It goes against everything we know about kids. They need to do different sports at different times of the year. If they do the same thing all the time, they risk burnout and injury. Those two things are not good for any kid.”

     

    The assistant commissioner noted that 75 percent of the teams in the IHSAA football state championships have athletes who participate in another sport.

     

    At schools where wrestling coaches are having a hard time getting football players (or those specializing in one sport) to join their teams, Faulkens said their must be a conversation between the coach and their athletic director and and principal.

     

    Faulkens pointed out the differences in the gridiron and mat, noting that football is anaerobic and wrestling is aerobic “and never the twain shall meet.”

     

    “If you try to get a kid to go from quick bursts and a lot of rest to a sport that’s a continual expenditure of energy, it’s very difficult,” Faulkens said. “Wrestling is not an easy sport. We’ve got a group of kids that don’t want to work that hard. They really don’t. They’re going to take the path of least resistance. It’s just the mindset of our kids.”

     

    While many will argue that more mat time is always a good thing, Faulkens sees a trend coming from his involvement with the National Federation’s sports medicine advisory committee that calls for a reduction in the number of matches.

     

    “What we know is that at a certain point, there’s no return on improvement,” Faulkens said. “It’s likely that in a few years the maximum number of regular-season matches allowed per wrestler will be 25.”

     

    This will mean an adjustment in how schedules are made. There may not be as many two-day super duals with teams competing eight to 10 times in a weekend, knowing that they may be getting close to the maximum in a very short time period.

     

    A point of emphasis for Faulkens at each online rules meeting is the importance of being vigilant against infectious skin diseases.

     

    “Don’t share razors or soap and wash yourself everyday and wash your mats,” Faulkens said.

     

    Faulkens said showering after each practice and competition is suggested. But if coaches can’t enforce that they should at least have a bucket of antibacterial wipes for exposed skin when wrestlers get off the mat.

     

    Ideally, checking for skin lesions would be a daily occurrence, but every athlete should be checked at least once a week.

     

    A year ago, Faulkens said 70 schools had cases of infectious skin disease on their teams and five schools reported five or more cases.

     

    “Parents are not going to stand for it,” Faulkens said. “If you get a MRSA (methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus infection) in your room, that’s going to cost the parents $40,000. If they don’t have insurance, chances are they are not going to get the treatment that they need.”

     

    Faulkens notes that though he may come across as harsh when making his points about matters like this and with the proper administration of the weight management system (he got the athletic directors and athletic trainers involved four years ago), there’s a method to his madness.

     

    “We can’t lose wrestling because we can’t lose the lessons that wrestling gives us,” Faulkens said. “As coaches, you are in control of that.”

     

    As for the state of the sport as Faulkens heads into his seventh state tournament series, he likes what he sees.

     

    “We’re in good shape,” Faulkens said. “I love where we’re are in wrestling in the state of Indiana. I really do.

     

    “My job is to do what’s best for everybody.”

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    There is no cookie cutter solution and simply adding duals won't magically make wrestlers appear on your team.

     

    Coaches need to look into promotion of the sport in school and via social media(aka where kids are!). 

     

    There are many ways to help participation and adding duals is just one piece of the puzzle.

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    I think developing a crowd and a more intense atmosphere for week night or even weekend duals (Quads possibly) would be great for the sport.  My eyes were really opened to this just this year.  We (Floyd Central) hosted our HHC Duals on Friday and Saturday, we typically only host the Friday portion of the event and its always a fun atmosphere.  On Friday night 4 teams wrestle 2 duals. 1st Round Floyd vs Jeffersonville and New Albany vs Jennings County with the 2nd round be Floyd vs Jennings and Jeff vs New Albany.

     

    On Friday night our gym was packed with friends, family, and alumni from the 3 local schools.  So much so that people were having trouble finding places to sit.  The atmosphere was fun, loud and intense.  I talked to my AD that night I said man the crowd was awesome and that we might be in trouble for Saturday with seating since 4 more teams were coming with JVs.

     

    9am Saturday rolls around with the addition of 4 more teams and there was plenty of seating.  Yeah those friends and people trickled in throughout the day but the atmosphere was not nearly as fun as the night before.

     

    I am with the everyone else in that I don't want to drop a weekend dual like calumet where my wrestlers have a chance to see multiple state ranked teams and individuals.  But I do think there is something to be said for making wrestling more of a fan friendly sport and there has to be a happy medium.  A weekend quad or tri against tough teams might be solution.  I believe if we can get people to matches more consistently it would for sure help the numbers.

     

    Also as a coach when I try to think when my wrestlers get banged up and injured the most it is for sure after a long weekend and if it isn't the first its the 2nd or 3rd long weekend in a row we wrestle.

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    I've never understood the "More Weeknight Duals to Increase Participation Numbers" argument.  If it's about limiting matches and injury prevention, I totally understand that argument and support it 100%. 

     

    From a participation standpoint, however, the weeknight dual is not a brand new concept that will suddenly make wrestling more popular and save the sport.  I'd bet that nearly every single school that sponsors wrestling in this state already has at least one weeknight dual at home on the schedule.  

     

    I've traveled the state watching wrestling over the years and can tell you that the packed gym of community members and peers that is so often described to watch a wrestling match is the EXCEPTION, not the rule.  There are a few top notch programs in this state that can pack a gym when they wrestle another top notch program.  There are even some smaller schools that do a nice job of promoting their matches and getting people to come out and support (i.e. Bellmont and Prairie Heights).  However, most duals around the state are attended only by the parents of the athletes competing.  I was at a dual last year that began at 6:00pm and was over by 6:09pm.  There were 3 matches (all first period pins, 7 forfeits, and 4 double forfeits).  You mean to tell me, that if we have more of those, that will raise participation at that school?

     

    Your point is well taken.  I wasn't so much trying to say duals are "THE" answer as I was pointing out a logic that supports them. 

     

    So to answer your question, no I don't think that if the only thing that happens is that we have more dual meets, then participation will rise.

     

    Perhaps I should have dedicated more of my typing to my actual point...complaining about how weak minded kids are doesn't usually go very far to solving problems.  Does feel nice to get it of one's chest...but doesn't really resolve anything. 

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    The best atmospheres in Adams County are the rivalry duals (when teams are in full season mode). Of course Bellmont vs AC and AC vs SA (especially before Coach Myers went to Jay Co). Also the old team state Yorktown vs Bellmont matchups. Yes they're not quite as frequent for every week. You can mix in 4 team duals especially for conference like the ACAC does. I'd just limit the Super Duals to 1 or 2 fewer than currently. Although I'd love to blow up all the scheduling requirements.

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    I was there when he spoke about these topics and several points are being overlooked:

     

    Duals vs. tournaments - Families have said that they have an issue with driving an hour+ to sit in a gym on a Saturday to watch their child compete for 30 or less minutes.

     

    Uniforms - Students have expressed that participating in the singlet is a sole reason for never starting.  

     

    In my opinion, whether it is a dual meet or a tournament we need to get better at promoting our own love for the sport.  I think about the two high schools in my town and the most well attended contests in football and basketball.  Football - inflatable tunnel entry for intros, a jumbo tron, fireworks, a tailgate...  Basketball - honoring alumni, dance teams during breaks, shirt giveaways...  At any other football or basketball game WITHOUT these things and the attendance is embarrassing.

     

    Now, when I think about the most packed wrestling meets I have ever been to: shirts tossed out when introducing athletes, DJ, spotlight, inflatable tunnel for intros, fog machine, cheerleaders...  If this is what it takes to draw interest to our sport; to attract today's high school athletes then shame on us for not doing it state-wide.

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    "Class Wrestling" is really the only meaningful maneuver at this point that will increase participation in our sport.

    Agree from a team perspective and as a minor part of the individual aspect. I'd love for the sport to have class and single class tournaments for both teams and individuals but the schedule won't work for that.

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    Agree from a team perspective and as a minor part of the individual aspect. I'd love for the sport to have class and single class tournaments for both teams and individuals but the schedule won't work for that.

    Faulkens mentions that spending all Saturday in a gym is discouraging kids.   Ok,  what about our state tournament.    Its 4 weekends in a row sitting in a gymnasium.   Maybe that hasn't something to do with the lack of participation.

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    Faulkens mentions that spending all Saturday in a gym is discouraging kids. Ok, what about our state tournament. Its 4 weekends in a row sitting in a gymnasium. Maybe that hasn't something to do with the lack of participation.

    Put them on Friday nights or another night if that's the case. The old single class team state duals were on week nights besides using individual sectionals and the team state finals.

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    Back to just hard work. No Fun Allowed! Hate him or love him the perfect example is Coach Snyder. Remind me how good Brownsburgs program was before he got there. Or Portage before Vega. Or Penn before Harper. Etc. There are examples out there. It has more to do with coaching and adjusting to the times than trying to recreate an old vision!

     

    Coach McCormick, class wrestling? Really? I thought we were kindred spirits!

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    Back to just hard work. No Fun Allowed! Hate him or love him the perfect example is Coach Snyder. Remind me how good Brownsburgs program was before he got there. Or Portage before Vega. Or Penn before Harper. Etc. There are examples out there. It has more to do with coaching and adjusting to the times than trying to recreate an old vision!

     

    Coach McCormick, class wrestling? Really? I thought we were kindred spirits!

    All those coaches are phenomenal and make the sport better. However those schools used as an example in each have much larger selection pools. We need to grow the teams like Bluffton, Heritage, and Norwell(seem to be heading back in the right direction) where there has been less success as teams lately. We need the Southern Wells and South Adams to get even stronger and build off the success they've had. That's why I think Coach McCormick is right about class wrestling. I also agree with you about hardworking kids as well. It's a combination of both.

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    Back to just hard work. No Fun Allowed! Hate him or love him the perfect example is Coach Snyder. Remind me how good Brownsburgs program was before he got there. Or Portage before Vega. Or Penn before Harper. Etc. There are examples out there. It has more to do with coaching and adjusting to the times than trying to recreate an old vision!

     

    Coach McCormick, class wrestling? Really? I thought we were kindred spirits!

     

    Here is my experiment.  Let's try this.  In the same spirit that we treat the "team aspect" of wrestling in IN, let's take IHSAA football back to single class.  Yes, that means small and mid-size public schools across the state will have to go through Carmel, Center Grove, Warren Central, (fill in the rest of the big schools here) to win a state football title.  Heck, those smaller schools won't even win sectionals or regionals anymore if this is implemented!  So how long do you think it would take for reality to set in for these small to mid-size football teams/schools?  When the realistic hope of ever getting to shine in the limelight gets squelched, participation will dwindle.

     

    Here's something else I will remind you of (that has certainly been shared before).

     

    Ohio Wrestling (Classed) --  they have pretty darn good wrestling and participation there

    Illinois Wrestling (Classed) -- they have pretty darn good wrestling and participation there

    Pennsylvania Wrestling (Classed) -- they have pretty darn good wrestling and participation there

    Iowa Wrestling (Classed) -- they have pretty darn good wrestling and participation there

    Keep filling in the list from here.

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    Back to just hard work. No Fun Allowed! Hate him or love him the perfect example is Coach Snyder. Remind me how good Brownsburgs program was before he got there. Or Portage before Vega. Or Penn before Harper. Etc. There are examples out there. It has more to do with coaching and adjusting to the times than trying to recreate an old vision!

    Coach McCormick, class wrestling? Really? I thought we were kindred spirits!

    The coaches you mentioned have done a phenomenal job, no question, and I respect them a lot... but these programs weren't starting from scratch. Youth coaches at Brownsburg built up their club before Snyder arrived, Penn has a tremendous enrollment to draw from, and Portage has exceptional tradition from the Coach P days as well. I'm not downplaying what these coaches have done, these teams have accomplished great things, but these examples are far from the norm.

     

    From experience I can say it takes an unbelievable amount of work to start from essentially scratch and build up a program that can compete on a yearly basis. Even then a competitive team only goes so far. You have to put an additional amount of work in promoting your meets to increase attendance. Including elementary and middle schools in your meets will go a long way, but takes tons of leg work, planning, and persistence. I'm pretty confident in saying that adjusting scheduling rules to include more weeknight duals will not increase attendance nor participation levels. However, working at increasing attendance at your currently scheduled weekday meets COULD increase participation.

     

    We have 6 weekday dual meets on our schedule. Our JV kids are lucky if they get a match in 2 of those 6 meets. If parents new to the sport don't like sitting in a gym most of a day on a Saturday to watch their kid wrestle a couple matches, you can bet they like even less the 45 minute drive on a weeknight to sit in a gym for an hour and not see their kid wrestle at all.

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    Here is my experiment.  Let's try this.  In the same spirit that we treat the "team aspect" of wrestling in IN, let's take IHSAA football back to single class.  Yes, that means small and mid-size public schools across the state will have to go through Carmel, Center Grove, Warren Central, (fill in the rest of the big schools here) to win a state football title.  Heck, those smaller schools won't even win sectionals or regionals anymore if this is implemented!  So how long do you think it would take for reality to set in for these small to mid-size football teams/schools?  When the realistic hope of ever getting to shine in the limelight gets squelched, participation will dwindle.

     

    Here's something else I will remind you of (that has certainly been shared before).

     

    Ohio Wrestling (Classed) --  they have pretty darn good wrestling and participation there

    Illinois Wrestling (Classed) -- they have pretty darn good wrestling and participation there

    Pennsylvania Wrestling (Classed) -- they have pretty darn good wrestling and participation there

    Iowa Wrestling (Classed) -- they have pretty darn good wrestling and participation there

    Keep filling in the list from here.

    For the sake of discussion and because I like you, I will entertain this concept. But we cannot use football as an example because we don't take the best player from all those teams and take them to state.

    We could have very well moved to a different school before Kyle entered high school, but because of loyalty (and I think Kyle wanted to beat some of my records) we stayed at Warsaw. If we were classed it probably wouldn't have changed that, but I think in some cases people would look at what areas and see were to move to win a state championship.  How many moves did we see this year. Whether it was to get better practice partners, go to a better team, or a legit move. I think people would be moving all over the place, but I'm sure this would settle down over time. So, not a very logical argument.

    I guess my biggest issue with this is Warsaw (as an example) is in these bigger schools. Warsaw has never won a football sectional and has a hard time filling a wrestling line up (probably since the late 80's). So I look at it as it doesn't solve our problem, nor our football programs problem since they have classed (and definitely since we bumped to 6a).

    I understand that classing isn't to solve all issues, but maybe look at how things are classed. Maybe even move schools around if they lose or win to improve growth in the programs. I mean if we are going to propose an idea, propose one that will solve the issue for the masses and not just for some programs. For example adjust a schools class off of regional qualifying (like the system from 4-5 years ago) if you have 3 classes and each have 8 schools for each regional, say 4 qualify to wrestle for regional and 4 don't. The 4 that don't qualify for regional go down a class the next year (if they are not at 1) and the 4 that win move up a class (if not already at 3).  I know it's not that simple with kids graduating, but surely if there is going to be something proposed it should help out the majority of the programs to keep everyone competitive.

    I find it funny that now that Kyle is graduating I really don't have an objection to this idea. I know 4 years ago my opinion was totally different.

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    How about "wrestling day" in Indiana? Kinda like "basketball day" in Indiana which just took place and was championed by the IHSAA. Of course it will have to be organized and administrated by a separate entity like Indianamat or the IHSWCA.

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    How about "wrestling day" in Indiana? Kinda like "basketball day" in Indiana which just took place and was championed by the IHSAA. Of course it will have to be organized and administrated by a separate entity like Indianamat or the IHSWCA.

    Like that idea very much. I also promoted the basketball day in Indiana as well on other boards. Glad HS football finally got put on Fox Sports for the finals a few years back. Baseball, volleyball, and softball should be as well (believe they are). We need to get as much exposure for all of our athletes and extra curricula members. Never know when that exposure could lead to college scholarships, Olympic opportunities, and etc.

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