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Portage’s Peele also had a great day. 
5-3 over  McCartney
4-3 over #9 Rioux
3-1 over #5 Campbell
7-1 over #7 Egli

Portage’s Peele also had a great day. 
5-3 over  McCartney
4-3 over #9 Rioux
3-1 over #5 Campbell
7-1 over #7 Egli

Portage’s Peele also had a great day. 
5-3 over  McCartney
4-3 over #9 Rioux
3-1 over #5 Campbell
7-1 over #7 Egli

Davison.

There is only one person who could upgrade Harrison's schedule and make all this conjecture moot and it isn't Wrestling Scholar, On The Rise, Sportsfan or any of the wrestlers with gaudy records, who have been named on here. It's the Harrison Head Coach. As long as he wants to wrestle a weak schedule (rated around 150th) and pile up wins, the Harrison kids will have to be content with records, rather than competition. Harvest Classic Harrison?? Put up or ...

There is only one person who could upgrade Harrison's schedule and make all this conjecture moot and it isn't Wrestling Scholar, On The Rise, Sportsfan or any of the wrestlers with gaudy records, who have been named on here. It's the Harrison Head Coach. As long as he wants to wrestle a weak schedule (rated around 150th) and pile up wins, the Harrison kids will have to be content with records, rather than competition. Harvest Classic Harrison?? Put up or ...

I think it's a great opportunity for Harrison. Especially crider Trey and Myles. I honestly wish they wrestled more matches in the region. It would be nice to see them at the harvest classic or something else

Hobart had  some big hitters, but I think Harrison would have similar amount of qualifiers if out of Calumet.   Harrison would of lost 2 or 3  qualifers  in Calumet, but keep in mind for team state,  Harrison lost semi-state points as they had 2 4th place finishers.   Hobart got 7 to SS.    Calumet Regional is good because of Merrillville and Portage,  but it drops off significantly after that.   Compare the teams after the big two.  Look at Maligned's post.
 
If looking at duals, Harrison had a more balanced dual team  than Hobart which is reflected in the genius rating.   If its an argument, Harrison has 13 starters back, and they had there best Varsity B team they've had.  They'll be legit next year. 
 
I got mixed feelings on Boiler Elite.   It wasn't like they were churning out champions.    And the problem with Boiler Elite was it wasn't like the academies.   It was a couple of volunteer coaches making some extra cash, and they weren't vested in the wrestlers.   My kid went through it and the coaches didn't go watch them at tournaments or even coerce kids to go to tournaments.   They didn't have the follow up from week to week to make sure each kid was progressing, and the coaches were interested in high level college wrestling, not the mundane basics of teaching a new 11 year old how to wrestle.      Interesting thing now is that there are now 4 clubs in Tippy county at each of the major high schools.  Between the 4 clubs,  easily over 100 kids participating in wrestling  and going to tournaments.   Boiler Elite maybe had 20 to 25 at most.   

I wish they did wrestle some of the Region schools more.

Could depth be better calculated by the number of ticket rounders each regional had?

Harrison would be a great addition to the Harvest Classic. I know the goal has always been to get the best teams there and they've eliminated a few teams that weren't competitive over the past few years. There are a few teams that as an outsider, I'd easily drop to add Harrison.  Not sure how it works, but if the coach wanted in, a phone call or email to Coach Morgan would be a good start. 

I doubt he wants the competition. Ha. His guys might not get 50 wins if he upgrades his schedule.

Good point Maligned!  In any sport, as a coach and fan, I often re-live one or two decisions in a match or game, but it's better to look at the whole match and not obsess over one of the bad decisions I made.  I'll let others do that.  LOL. I looked at the seeds and results and you're right, Harrison left a few points on the mat.  A quick glance shows they had two #1's lose.  One lost to a 4 and one to a 3.  In the 4 over 1, the Harrison #1 was undefeated. Ouch!   

I seen a lot of tears in the stands last night mainly during award presentations from a lot of wrestlers who either didn't place or didn't get a chance to wrestle (either due to injury or elimination at Semi-State, Regions, etc.), and I completely understand. For the underclassmen who didn't place, understand that you will hopefully have another opportunity to wrestle it out and either become one of the 224 at Bankers Life or 112 to earn medals. Wrestle each match like it is your last and constantly train like your life depends on it. Do not get caught up in the rankings because while they are fun to look at and see yourself on, they don't matter as much as you would think. You don't get a much better example than Eli Stock. He was ranked #16 and won a state championship over the second-ranked wrestler in the state (whom I picked to win) by fall. You can tell he was determined and worked his butt off. For those who are caught up in their record, don't be. Caleb Oliver, a freshman at Cathedral, entered the state finals with a 20-18 record, but I can guarantee you he has gained a boatload of experience and amassed much-deserved confidence wrestling on the highest level in a tough weight class. For the seniors, who either didn't make it out of Semi-State, Regions, Sectionals, fell unable to compete due to injury, were JV, or other circumstances, understand what you were able to do and take it for what it is worth. You were able to compete in a sport which allowed you to push yourself to the absolute limits physically and mentally. You are not a normal person. A normal person couldn't and wouldn't last in their body and endure what you've endured in your mind, spirit, and soul. You have nothing to hang your head about. Whether you're one of those kids coming from powerhouse programs like EMD, Brownsburg, Perry Meridian, Penn, Avon, or even smaller programs like Adams Central, Churubusco, Shenandoah, etc., YOU ARE A WRESTLER. You know what it takes to earn and gain superior position. Use that mindset for the rest of your life. For the seniors who wrestled their final match on Friday night and sat through the tournament Saturday, you may feel empty and may be beating yourself up over what you could've done differently, cried, or don't know what to feel, I can understand your emotions firsthand. It's a hard pill to swallow as a competitor to see other wrestlers you've either beaten, held close matches with, or have the same common opponents as you did, excel and place on the podium or even win. It's hard for me just coming into Bankers and not immediately getting emotional, but as a person, you have to let it go and recognize what you have done. It's still taking me time to adjust and think about what I could've done, but as my family and friends told me, I made it where many people couldn't and had the opportunity to wrestle in front of 10,000+. For that, I am forever grateful. So, to my seniors without hardware, don't think about what could've been. Think about what was and what is to come. For all of you wrestlers who didn't quite get the endings you wanted, don't hang your head. Think about your life in the long run, because one day, you'll be able to tell your kids and future generations all of your favorite memories and how much you've learned from this sport. As a wrestler, you learn so much and you become a better person. Congratulations to all Indiana high school wrestlers for another great season, and to all seniors for great careers.

Christian Mejia Friday night.

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looks like my new profile picture has softened you up to actually agree with me on a topic...........we may become good friends some day ????

Didn't do anything to my butt.  I just think Jr. High is Jr. High and in a time when there's a lot of chest thumping and big egos...suggesting a 13 year old would place with 17-18 year olds, serves no good purpose.  I know a few high schoolers who got their priorities screwed up by reading their rankings too often.  Jr. High kids will have their day, but the less publicity at a young age, the better.  I feel the same about comparing High School wrestlers to Big Ten wrestlers.  Wait until they are in the college room and deserve/have earned that conversation.  Just my opinion, since you asked.  If Reiser and I were talking in person, it would be different, but saying on here that a JH kid is good enough to place in HS, when there are tons of hard working HS kids who lost in the ticket round or before...kinda slaps them in the face, as well as puffs up the JH kid unnecessarily.   

Didn't do anything to my butt.  I just think Jr. High is Jr. High and in a time when there's a lot of chest thumping and big egos...suggesting a 13 year old would place with 17-18 year olds, serves no good purpose.  I know a few high schoolers who got their priorities screwed up by reading their rankings too often.  Jr. High kids will have their day, but the less publicity at a young age, the better.  I feel the same about comparing High School wrestlers to Big Ten wrestlers.  Wait until they are in the college room and deserve/have earned that conversation.  Just my opinion, since you asked.  If Reiser and I were talking in person, it would be different, but saying on here that a JH kid is good enough to place in HS, when there are tons of hard working HS kids who lost in the ticket round or before...kinda slaps them in the face, as well as puffs up the JH kid unnecessarily.   

Didn't do anything to my butt.  I just think Jr. High is Jr. High and in a time when there's a lot of chest thumping and big egos...suggesting a 13 year old would place with 17-18 year olds, serves no good purpose.  I know a few high schoolers who got their priorities screwed up by reading their rankings too often.  Jr. High kids will have their day, but the less publicity at a young age, the better.  I feel the same about comparing High School wrestlers to Big Ten wrestlers.  Wait until they are in the college room and deserve/have earned that conversation.  Just my opinion, since you asked.  If Reiser and I were talking in person, it would be different, but saying on here that a JH kid is good enough to place in HS, when there are tons of hard working HS kids who lost in the ticket round or before...kinda slaps them in the face, as well as puffs up the JH kid unnecessarily.   

AGREED

Throw45: You said it very well!  Sports evolve and each year there are nuances, which need to be learned by officials.  A few years ago it was scrambling, which required some adjusting by officials.  Bautista looked like a strong, high level wrestler and some of what he was doing reminded me of what colleges teach.  Many where I was watching, commented that his returns were only receiving gasps from people who don't watch 125 pounders on BTN.  It is a shame he isn't wrestling this weekend.  Harper was a college wrestler.  I'm guessing he knew Alex was doing some very good wrestling.  He probably also knew the official was likely to be cautious in his approach.  I may be wrong, but it seemed that Harper's boy, on restart after restart, put himself in the same position.  They must have been confident that they would either get the escape or entice Alex to lift again.  Both wrestlers did the same things and wound up in the exact same position 3-4 times.  If Gilman or Tomasello repeatedly returned a wrestler the same way Bautista did, Jim Gibbons would commend him.  College isn't High School, but the good kids are being taught many of the same methods in the Penn room, at RWA, etc, as colleges teach.   

Throw45: You said it very well!  Sports evolve and each year there are nuances, which need to be learned by officials.  A few years ago it was scrambling, which required some adjusting by officials.  Bautista looked like a strong, high level wrestler and some of what he was doing reminded me of what colleges teach.  Many where I was watching, commented that his returns were only receiving gasps from people who don't watch 125 pounders on BTN.  It is a shame he isn't wrestling this weekend.  Harper was a college wrestler.  I'm guessing he knew Alex was doing some very good wrestling.  He probably also knew the official was likely to be cautious in his approach.  I may be wrong, but it seemed that Harper's boy, on restart after restart, put himself in the same position.  They must have been confident that they would either get the escape or entice Alex to lift again.  Both wrestlers did the same things and wound up in the exact same position 3-4 times.  If Gilman or Tomasello repeatedly returned a wrestler the same way Bautista did, Jim Gibbons would commend him.  College isn't High School, but the good kids are being taught many of the same methods in the Penn room, at RWA, etc, as colleges teach.   

Didn't do anything to my butt.  I just think Jr. High is Jr. High and in a time when there's a lot of chest thumping and big egos...suggesting a 13 year old would place with 17-18 year olds, serves no good purpose.  I know a few high schoolers who got their priorities screwed up by reading their rankings too often.  Jr. High kids will have their day, but the less publicity at a young age, the better.  I feel the same about comparing High School wrestlers to Big Ten wrestlers.  Wait until they are in the college room and deserve/have earned that conversation.  Just my opinion, since you asked.  If Reiser and I were talking in person, it would be different, but saying on here that a JH kid is good enough to place in HS, when there are tons of hard working HS kids who lost in the ticket round or before...kinda slaps them in the face, as well as puffs up the JH kid unnecessarily.   

Didn't do anything to my butt.  I just think Jr. High is Jr. High and in a time when there's a lot of chest thumping and big egos...suggesting a 13 year old would place with 17-18 year olds, serves no good purpose.  I know a few high schoolers who got their priorities screwed up by reading their rankings too often.  Jr. High kids will have their day, but the less publicity at a young age, the better.  I feel the same about comparing High School wrestlers to Big Ten wrestlers.  Wait until they are in the college room and deserve/have earned that conversation.  Just my opinion, since you asked.  If Reiser and I were talking in person, it would be different, but saying on here that a JH kid is good enough to place in HS, when there are tons of hard working HS kids who lost in the ticket round or before...kinda slaps them in the face, as well as puffs up the JH kid unnecessarily.   

Didn't do anything to my butt.  I just think Jr. High is Jr. High and in a time when there's a lot of chest thumping and big egos...suggesting a 13 year old would place with 17-18 year olds, serves no good purpose.  I know a few high schoolers who got their priorities screwed up by reading their rankings too often.  Jr. High kids will have their day, but the less publicity at a young age, the better.  I feel the same about comparing High School wrestlers to Big Ten wrestlers.  Wait until they are in the college room and deserve/have earned that conversation.  Just my opinion, since you asked.  If Reiser and I were talking in person, it would be different, but saying on here that a JH kid is good enough to place in HS, when there are tons of hard working HS kids who lost in the ticket round or before...kinda slaps them in the face, as well as puffs up the JH kid unnecessarily.