Coach Nieman

Why should any teams follow weight loss rules? If these kids or coaches aren't suspended, the IHSAA sets the precedent that nobody has to follow weight loss rules. Regardless of your thoughts on if they should/n't be allowed to wrestle, no punishment says that the "rules" are guidelines.

Why should any teams follow weight loss rules? If these kids or coaches aren't suspended, the IHSAA sets the precedent that nobody has to follow weight loss rules. Regardless of your thoughts on if they should/n't be allowed to wrestle, no punishment says that the "rules" are guidelines.

Why should any teams follow weight loss rules? If these kids or coaches aren't suspended, the IHSAA sets the precedent that nobody has to follow weight loss rules. Regardless of your thoughts on if they should/n't be allowed to wrestle, no punishment says that the "rules" are guidelines.

Why should any teams follow weight loss rules? If these kids or coaches aren't suspended, the IHSAA sets the precedent that nobody has to follow weight loss rules. Regardless of your thoughts on if they should/n't be allowed to wrestle, no punishment says that the "rules" are guidelines.

I do find the punishment odd since Faulkens is the face of the weight management system.  

Exactly!  More than the change to win/loss, the qualifying weigh-in’s achieved illegally would the the issue I think some coaches/wrestlers would take issue with.   If a wrestler had a few of their weigh-ins scratched due to not falling in their qualifying weight margins and this couldn’t drop a weight class they are the one that may really have a right to complain.   These guys get at a sectional weight they want despite achieving it illegally and your wrestler didn’t get to that weight due to their weigh-in margins not being within the limits.  For as much as the IHSAA wants to make sure coaches /wrestlers jump through hoops to make ans document the qualifying weigh-ins it seems like the part of this problem they would want highlight. Unfortunately this and the possible resulting weight change was not made part of the issue/punishment.  That part of things is wheee I feel the IHSAA fell short in addressing (or choose to not address).  

So if no chang in seeds what lesson is learned. Hey go ahead cheat during the season nothing really happens to you. I feel sorry for the kids that are busting their ass doing it the right way. When you look at it seems like everyone is punished but Carmel. Those kids and coaches should be disqualified they know right from wrong and still chose to do it.

Not to make it a federal offense but...
If I had a "decent" kid at say 145 (be it sectional/regional/SS/S) and he's going against the Carmel kid (again theoretical weight..could be any weight) and my kid gets taken out say in ticket round by the Carmel 145. If I was a coach I think I would want to look at the weight loss plan for the Carmel kid, no? What if one or more of his qualifying weigh ins, and more importantly his scratch one, came during the period when the #SuanaSuit was used? Seems to me that just wouldn't be right or fair, no? Maybe he doesn't make 145 without the aid of the illegal #SuanaSuit and thus should not have been entered in the 145lb class at all? I dunno...just seems we should be past this kind of issue nowadays.

The 8 wrestlers and the coach should be suspended for the tournament as well as the school be put on probation for all sports due to this not only a state violation but a national one as well  

Not sure why everyone is counting out 2x State Champ Brayden Curtis. Kid hasn’t had a loss in HS Season match in like 2.5 years . Like Asa hasn’t lost under the lights . Am I missing something here ? 

Wrestlers do have to have a to make a scratch weight at the weight class they compete in for the sectional. They may not compete in that weight class on the day they make it, but that isn't the rule. Getting off topic just a bit, but the weight rule is something that needs to be looked at IMO. I have two thoughts. First, give the two pounds the first half of the season, and then remove it after Christmas. The IHSAA wants kids to be safe with their weight. This would allow wrestlers time to work down to their desired weight class and be safe while doing so. By Christmas time, wrestlers should have their weight management under control. My second thought is instead of saying a wrestler's minimum weight is 113, and if he weights 112.9 it doesn't count, just make it the wrestler has to make weight for the weight class. Then we don't run in to kids trying to drink water to add a few tenths right before weigh in to make sure they are at the correct tenth. Just a few thoughts.

So did we figure out who can pee the furthest yet?

So did we figure out who can pee the furthest yet?

So did we figure out who can pee the furthest yet?

State shouldn't be classed, one tourney one champ.

Can I be butthurt in this thread, too?
 

It’s sad when you come into a thread with the intentions of posting a GIF, and the only other reply has already beaten you to it

I just want to brag on my guy a bit. Aaron Black from Greensburg placed 8th at 182 as a first year wrestler. I couldn't be more proud of the work he puts in every day. Way to go Aaron!!

I just want to brag on my guy a bit. Aaron Black from Greensburg placed 8th at 182 as a first year wrestler. I couldn't be more proud of the work he puts in every day. Way to go Aaron!!

I just want to brag on my guy a bit. Aaron Black from Greensburg placed 8th at 182 as a first year wrestler. I couldn't be more proud of the work he puts in every day. Way to go Aaron!!